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I was lucky enough to see Dark of the Moon last night, and Sentinal Prime was an amazing character. Voiced by Leonard Nemoy, this Prime wasn't one to mess with. The figures out of the box is impressive, but lacking some movie accurate paint applications and details that I went to town with.

These are both non-transforming customs.

Here's a list of the modifications done to Sentinal Prime:
- Head on ball joint
- LED lights swapped from yellow to bright blue (both head and fire truck light bar)
- Improved ankles for more dynamic poses
- Rebuilt from scratch new chest
- Added heels for more dynamic poses
- added hoses and other small details
- removed back kibble
- built system to attach shield to Sentinal's back
- realistic wear/tear and aging on his paint
- realistic battle damage

Full photo gallerys (and there's a lot) can be seen :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/accardi1/sets/72157626952844695/
or
https://www.facebook.com/pages/FrenzyRumble/277523541966


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AMAZING !!!!
 
This has probably been said a million times, but i'm watching the transformers 2007 on tv now.

The robots are awesome, the humans generally suck, i dont mind sam and mikayla, military were okay, a little too easy, i mean they basically say "hey guys can we have abunch of missile and machine gun fire on this village", commanders: "sure thing!"

The military were actually cool enough, if it were only the unit not the us government. In fact there are far too much US government crap in this film, too much flashy expensive hardware, and dumb characters, i mean the cops were absurd, _____ing to the kid about being on drugs and so forth.

The whole hacker plot would've been okay too if they were realistc protrayels (not incredibly hot supermodel types) and one, two scenes MAX,

The only real recognizable evil transformers were Megs and starscream, the other decepticons were not fan-favourites like rumble, soundwave, skywarp and so forth, only the autobots had recognizable names and characters.

The main problems with the film is the lack of robot "character", the over-used human characters like the government and random hot people on the street.

The action is okay a little shaky but in HD looks good and the robot voices are pretty damn good... Optimus of course, barricade was cool and starscream awesome, there just was only a handful of dialogue and character for them.

I mean when optimus stabbed bonecrushers face with his sword... AWESOME.

When starscream flew over the city and the military thought he was a jet you just knew they were gonna get ____ed up bad... AWESOME

When Starscream and Megatron had their only dialoge together... AWESOME.

When Barricade attacked Sam... AWESOME

Ironhide... AWESOME

"One shall stand one shall fall"... AWESOME.

I felt the same way with this that i felt in the Hulk films, and that is one simply thing.

Not enough of the name-sake, a hulk film should have moslty hulk on-screen or at least and equal amount to banner. There simply wasn't enough transformers screen-time, the movie should have more transformers than humans, simple as.

The non-directors cut should remove most human scenes.

Basically in order to watch this film you need the mute or fast forward button ready in hand to skip the god-awful goverment and hacker scenes, with them skipped its a good enough film.

The war for cybertron game as a movie would've blown this away.

Have a reboot set it on cybertron and space for a full 90 mins of 120 mins screen time, end it on earth as a squad of autobots and decepticons stranded and the autobots protecting the whole planet from the decepticons trying to drain the energon. Have small personal human characters in the sequel have a bond to the machines and so on.
Not what it is, being a Bay-a-thon of crappy storytelling and useless weak character and slow-motion butt shots of tanned america hotties working at a burger stand or something.

I love the machines, there is an epic story there just waiting to be shown, i just cant stand the useless governments and hacker characters.

The first film was a risk they had to prove the franchise as profitable, having it only the robots would've been too expensive and risky, but now that the franchise has proved a financial success hopefully a director will reboot it to take place on cybertron and space and move to earth at the end and in the sequels, with no childish humour, racist undertones and entertaining and relatable human characters.

/rant.

Also, i miss TFA.
 
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I noticed that TRU is having a Masterpiece Rodimus as an SDCC exclusive...damn it. I want it. That is all. :D
 
I actually just read a forum with a thread about a TF movie with no humans and was appalled at how many were against it. I know its a hard sell but there really is great character in the stories of these machines at war, they state since no humnas are present its not live action, but its live action robots in space, you dont need humans for it to be live action, just live action visuals done in CGI

Its not neccessary to have any humans, not altogether easy by any means, but what is the point of filmmaking if telling a story without humans is deemed impossible, what happend to thrill of trying to do something fresh and unique? I'm sick of seeing the same films advertised with interchangable actors doing the same boring characters with just different names and in different loactions, how many crappy rom-com remixes does it take failing to realize the industry need to take more chances.

I really want to love the transformers films but bay and the script writers make it almost unbearable to sit through.

All you have to do is give human character to non-human characters, Pixar do it amazingly all the time why not Transformers, like i said above peole want to see the Transformers in a movie called transformers, at least 60% of the time.

Have the movie about alien characters with human charateristics, its simple, again Pixar have yet to do it badly, if they can make you care about a fish, a robot and a car, surely some filmmakers out there can do it for the transformers.

Reboot it and End it on earth so the fights on earth in the sequels have meaning, with meaningful human characters, meaningful story and something that doesnt nausiate to watch.

People moan about george lucas and speilberg for the SW prequels and indy 4 but i think michael bay and those script writers have doomed a real transformers film from happening.
 
You need to realize that people on message boards make up about .05% of movie-going audiences, and therefore everything you or they think will make a "better" movie isn't palatable to the general public.

Like it or not, the vocal minority isn't a factor in any entertainment-related business decisions. Audiences need human characters to relate to, despite what people on a Transformers board think. They're not making these movies to lose money on them, and if you cater to an internet/fanboy audience, that's exactly what you're going to do. Look at Scott Pilgrim.

You may disagree with the direction they took the movies all you want, but in the end, the money speaks for itself. You don't matter. And I'm personally fine with that...I'm one of those people who love to be entertained and are part of the general audience. I'm also someone who's loved Transformers for 25 years, and I couldn't be happier that the films are entertaining as hell to me. Sometimes you just have to step off the soapbox of righteous indignation and accept that entertainment and profit is the bottom line.
 
But as a fan of the transformers franchise, are you happy that human characters like anthony anderson, john tuturro and shia lebouf get more character development, are those characters entertaining to you?

Thats the big question because whatever review i read there is always a line or paragrah that says the dialogue is bad the characters awful and everything except the effects if generall poor when compared to all other movies around at the time.

Because that to me is bad filmmaking, if most of the film is bad except for the robots why not focus on the robots.

If star wars was set in ohio where they go to the death star in france, and had equally good performances but characters that werent engaging, funny or that you cared about as star wars, would it be good? or is it good because of the background elements behind i.e design, setting, story or a combination of both.

I'd go with both, good characters, dialogue story with good setting, design and so forth.

The transformers films have the good design, okay story but bad characters/dialogue. Thats why they fail to me and to alot of general audience reviewers and mild to strong TF fans.

And i would estimate that for the latest jennifer aniston rom-com message boards of fans of her make up 0.5%, for fans of an established, celebrated franchise i would go no lower than 10% of the audience who are paying to see a film about something they love personally.

If it were only 0.5% then why would hollywood spend so much money on making all the comic books movies, the answer is becasue there is a built in audience of more than 0.5% who want to see it made and will pay to see it when released, because of that assoiation.

You say that profit and entertainment is the bottom line, but i think there are more people unhappy with the film as a film than there are who enjoy it as a piece of film making.

You seem to have skipped my example of Pixar who consistantly make Entertaining films that makes lots of money and please people because they make entertaining and profitable films while at the same time progressing filmmaking and storytelling, by making something unique and engaging, a film like transformers will makes lots of money but not please as many people from a general filmmaking point of view, because its a by-the-numbers affair of mediocraty.

The transformers to me are simply one in a long line of franchises being made by hollywood with as much taken out as possible, and it saddens me that the real story is not being told.

This just came to me today because it was on and i watched it and was disappointed at the lack of robot "character" In the film, the bad dialogue, the bad character, the crude/juvenile humour and the bad actor performances.

If your gonna be making a film based on a story about a robot civilization with their own society, culture, language and war then why is that film more about a guy, his girl and military and government blokes and a couple of robots thrown in every now and then, all they had to do was call it something else, change the film name and colour and names of the robots and not undermake a transformers movie.

The fact that i have come on here and written this much about why the film is bad from a fan-service point of view AND how i felt i had to skip scens because it had boring characters, dialogue and all the other things i mentioned should be reason enough that the film has problems from a general filmmaking standard, at least some of them if not all.
 
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Looks guys all i'm trying to say is batman and robin sucked, not just because it was a bad batman movie but because it was a bad movie, and now look at what chris nolan did with batman he made people love it for being a good film and a good batman film.

Thats all i really want a transformers film that services the transformers and is a good film by itself.

All material whether its about a world of talking toys or a story about warring robots can be done well and make people love it.

Michael Bay cant do this, so hopefully someday a reboot will fix everything he's done wrong in film making om this franchise.
 
Personally I don't mind the movies. I don't mind that they focus on humans. The stories with the humans are nice, I can relate more to that then a robot society. The amount of robots in the movie and the amount of interaction and development is fine with me. To me the movie isn't in the category of 'bad film making.'

Also, I really like Transformers Revenge of the Fallen a lot too, and Transformers and Dark of the Moon. All of them were 'A' movies in my eyes.
 
You need to realize that people on message boards make up about .05% of movie-going audiences, and therefore everything you or they think will make a "better" movie isn't palatable to the general public.

Like it or not, the vocal minority isn't a factor in any entertainment-related business decisions. Audiences need human characters to relate to, despite what people on a Transformers board think. They're not making these movies to lose money on them, and if you cater to an internet/fanboy audience, that's exactly what you're going to do. Look at Scott Pilgrim.


You may disagree with the direction they took the movies all you want, but in the end, the money speaks for itself. You don't matter. And I'm personally fine with that...I'm one of those people who love to be entertained and are part of the general audience. I'm also someone who's loved Transformers for 25 years, and I couldn't be happier that the films are entertaining as hell to me. Sometimes you just have to step off the soapbox of righteous indignation and accept that entertainment and profit is the bottom line.

Quoted for truth, especially the bolded part. Ive been saying this for four years now, and its never wrong.

Looks guys all i'm trying to say is batman and robin sucked, not just because it was a bad batman movie but because it was a bad movie, and now look at what chris nolan did with batman he made people love it for being a good film and a good batman film.

Thats all i really want a transformers film that services the transformers and is a good film by itself.

All material whether its about a world of talking toys or a story about warring robots can be done well and make people love it.

Michael Bay cant do this, so hopefully someday a reboot will fix everything he's done wrong in film making om this franchise.

Batman and Transformers are two very different things. For one Batman is a human-based idea, meaning no aliens so theres something for the audience to relate to, a.k.a Batman/Bruce Wayne.
If somebody made a film with nothing but CGI robots in it nobody except us would relate to it. Its not a case of "pixar can do it" because their characters are different. For one they are not warring robots, they are cute and charming characters and thats why their films work and a fully cgi TF movie wouldnt.

Its easy to be a critic and call the TF movies crap, but id love to see any of the haters do better.
 
Personally I don't mind the movies. I don't mind that they focus on humans. The stories with the humans are nice, I can relate more to that then a robot society. The amount of robots in the movie and the amount of interaction and development is fine with me. To me the movie isn't in the category of 'bad film making.'

Also, I really like Transformers Revenge of the Fallen a lot too, and Transformers and Dark of the Moon. All of them were 'A' movies in my eyes.

Good man :goodpost: :hi5:
 
That's why I hate you.....:lol

Congrats on the haul bro!
Thanks, I was wondering why no one jumped on it
Damn, you got lucky. I was lucky enough to get in on one from BBTS before the price took off like a rocket. He's one of my favorite pieces.
I canceled my PO from them then regreted when sold out. Well worth retail price.
Personally I don't mind the movies. I don't mind that they focus on humans. The stories with the humans are nice, I can relate more to that then a robot society. The amount of robots in the movie and the amount of interaction and development is fine with me. To me the movie isn't in the category of 'bad film making.'

Also, I really like Transformers Revenge of the Fallen a lot too, and Transformers and Dark of the Moon. All of them were 'A' movies in my eyes.
I my self enjoyed all 3 TF movies.
 
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