Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

[third3ye]

Fox isn’t butchering anything, and I believe DOFP has made the most money of all the Marvel films so far.

Um, I think you left out 'in 2014'? Cuz IM3, Avengers, and the Riami Spider-Man movies made a whole lot more than DOFP.

 

[karamazov80]

The X-Men movies are good but are god awful representations of comic book X-Men aside from Charles and Erik.

You make a fair point, though Marvel Studios is also pretty loose and free with how they handle some characters, which aren't all very 616-accurate (see: Tony Stark, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, Falcon).

 

[guy66657]

You make a fair point, though Marvel Studios is also pretty loose and free with how they handle some characters, which aren't all very 616-accurate (see: Tony Stark, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, Falcon).

Yeah that's true. I always thought the MCU was a blend of the 616 personalities but with the aesthetic look of the Ultimate universe.

 

[pturtle]

Um, I think you left out 'in 2014'? Cuz IM3, Avengers, and the Riami Spider-Man movies made a whole lot more than DOFP.

Yea, I meant this year.

 

[thedopefreshness]

If we're talking about staying faithful to the source material we definitely shouldn't forget Marvel Studios themselves have taken huge liberties in that realm, Stark's personality, Trevor, The Winter Soldier and Black Widow's story; they've changed quite a bit and honestly I can't say I mind. It seems more and more people are blind to Marvel changing around a few things as opposed to FOX doing it, I don't mind critiques as long as they're not biased.

(Oh and I love Jackman's Wolverine; this coming from someone that's loved the character in all forms of media from comic books to video games.)

But having said that, anything interesting happening in Ultron world?

 

[Wake]

Difference bewteen Marvel and FOX's changes are vast imho. Marvel changes little things but NEVER just for the sake of change. Always in service of the story. And typically the hardcore fans feel that marvel respects their canon. FOX on the otherhand has been changing things with the X-men on a massive level. The continuity in the X-men series is VERY far away from the actual comic continuity.

 

[guy66657]

Winter Soldiers backstory isn't that different aside from replacing the Russians with HYDRA as well as how Bucky lost his arm as well as how he regained his memories though. Black Widow's backstory as well as Fury, yeah they changed that.

 

[Dr.Mirakle32]

Difference bewteen Marvel and FOX's changes are vast imho. Marvel changes little things but NEVER just for the sake of change. Always in service of the story. And typically the hardcore fans feel that marvel respects their canon. FOX on the otherhand has been changing things with the X-men on a massive level. The continuity in the X-men series is VERY far away from the actual comic continuity.

Comics are comics, movies are movies.

I'm not the biggest fan of Fox's mutant of the week extras (I felt it was one of the shortcomings of FIRST CLASS,) but otherwise, Fox keeps the heart of what makes the comics work. Otherwise, the X-MEN comics have traditionally been a cluster-**** of concepts and characters, with some aspects that would be out of place, even in the most esoteric Marvel Studios adaptation.
The Singer films, at least, preserve the quality of storytelling and the themes of the Claremont era, even if they eschew the pastel-colored trappings.

If continuity is your bag, please explain how the MCU are verbatim translations of 75 years of comic history. I don't remember HYDRA laser weapons in the Golden Age stories, or Bucky being Steve's adult best friend. How can you faithfully adapt Thor's origin without Donald Blake? How could Marvel get the roster to the Avengers completely wrong in their first outing?! Those all sound like changing things for the sake of changing things. Film adaptations have always compressed and switched plot points around to suit the medium. I just see no difference in Marvel and Fox's approach.

 

[DiFabio]

Yeah, I gotta say. X-2 and Days of Future Past are great adaptations of God Loves, Man Kills and Days of Future Past respectively. The best that can be done for film anyway.

The only comic film adaptations that are pretty much what was in the books are 300, Sin City and Watchmen, but while Watchmen is very, very close, even it strays a bit to be more cinematic.

 

[Ultron-7]

Fox isn’t butchering anything, and I believe DOFP has made the most money of all the Marvel films so far. Spidey hasn’t been as lucky, but Sony has also given us Spiderman 1 and 2 which are some of the best superhero movies ever.

It's a matter of opinion.

 

[Brainiac]

Yeah, I gotta say. X-2 and Days of Future Past are great adaptations of God Loves, Man Kills and Days of Future Past respectively. The best that can be done for film anyway.

The only comic film adaptations that are pretty much what was in the books are 300, Sin City and Watchmen, but while Watchmen is very, very close, even it strays a bit to be more cinematic.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, I gotta say. X-2 and Days of Future Past are great adaptations of God Loves, Man Kills and Days of Future Past respectively. The best that can be done for film anyway.

The only comic film adaptations that are pretty much what was in the books are 300, Sin City and Watchmen, but while Watchmen is very, very close, even it strays a bit to be more cinematic.

Yeah, the X-Men film changes that mattered were done for the sake of the movie story just as much as they were in Marvel Studios. Ultimately, I take issue with some changes taken by both studios, but even when they weren't improvements in my mind (i.e., Hawkeye some generic special ops guy, Wolverine isn't as much of an edgy bad-***, Rogue is unrecognizable, Fury is typical SMJ, Sabretooth is a nearly mindless beast, etc.) I get where they were going, and they largely did work for the stories that those filmmakers tried to tell.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah, the X-Men film changes that mattered were done for the sake of the movie story just as much as they were in Marvel Studios. Ultimately, I take issue with some changes taken by both studios, but even when they weren't improvements in my mind (i.e., Hawkeye some generic special ops guy, Wolverine isn't as much of an edgy bad-***, Rogue is unrecognizable, Fury is typical SMJ, Sabretooth is a nearly mindless beast, etc.) I get where they were going, and they largely did work for the stories that those filmmakers tried to tell.

ie; cbm mostly suck

 

[DiFabio]

Go through any comic book movie and you'll find things that don't match the books. Things that were changed for film and story reasons.


It goes back to the granddaddies of the genre, Superman: The Movie and Batman. Lex Luthor was a mad scientist, not a scheming real estate entrapenour. Superman in the comics didn't have the magical powers he had in the film. Mother ****in' world turning powers and magical eye beams that levitate people and rebuild crap? Wut? Then there's Batman. He looks nothing like his comic book counterpart due to the fact that he's wearing armor and an all black suit (something comic book movies would continue to do to "ground" their characters for years to come. Joker didn't have facial wounds or take a bullet to the face. The Joker also didn't ****ing kill Batman's parents. Where the **** is Robin? Robin debuted before the Joker in the comics? Where is the continuity? Robin should have been there to fight the Joker.

- Wolverine doesn't wear a mask
- Magneto ain't got no kids (well, sort of)
- Thor ain't a god
- Hulk was created by trying to replicate the SS serum
- Cap never fought Hitler (but went up against laser guns instead)
- Both Spider-Men aren't created by a simple, accidental spider, but genetically engineered ones
- Hawkeye is a *****
- Iron Man is Robert Downey Jr.
- Barbara Gordon is Alfred's niece?
- Ra's al Ghul trained Bruce?
- Batman was only Batman for a year, then quit . . . Twice?
- Two-Face sucks
- Cyclops sucks
- Superman breaks necks? The S stands for hope?
- Penguin is a Victorian era looking sewer freak
- Bane is a Victorian era looking sewer freak
- Rouge ain't southern, can't fly nor has super strength
- Trevor the Mandarin Slattery

I could go on and on.

 

[jye4ever]

RDJ Stark best thing since peanut butter and jelly, wings, beer, grilled steak and white sangria.

 

[Darko99]

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, that's one change that was a definite improvement IMO. I guess it makes up for making Hawkeye generic and forgettable.

 

[guy66657]

Don't forget Superman's magic kiss!

 

[jye4ever]

He said magical powers, and he could go on and on.

 

[karamazov80]

In fairness to Superman, his powers weren't totally constant over time. In the silver age, he was a super genius and could travel through time with his super speed.