Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

[Vivek]

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[Natrix]

So they aren't going to go full comic and start time traveling are they? Because time traveling to stop robots is something I've seen in a few flicks already and we already have Future Past on the way which is literally that plot.

I'm guessing it will all take place in the modern day, maybe Hank works for SHIELD to create a robot army to defend from aliens since the Avengers are broken up and Stark went full ***** whipped.

As stated earlier in the thread, it isn't following the comic arc just using the title. Also saw an article where Feige said there will be no time traveling used in Marvel Studio movies for the foreseeable future. I would imagine that would be saved for when/if they ever get around to Kang.

 

[The Mike]

And yes Pym is Ant Man and he created Ultron, which is why some people are confused on how they would handle the matter since Ant Man comes out after this movie. Pretty sure they have it sorted out, just a matter of waiting to see how they're going to do it.

Hank Pym will be introduced in Avengers: AOU and then supposedly in his own film it'll deal with the aftermath similar to how Iron Man 3 was handled. It's fully possible based on some rumors that Pym won't be Ant-Man in Avengers: AOU but become the hero because of it. There are some rumors that he'll be Giant Man in the Avengers and that the Ant-Man tech will come from tinkering with that.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Avengers: Age of Ultron has nothing to do with the comic story's namesake And Iron Man will be the creator of Ultron not Hank Pym. Pym won't be involved"



First Jarvis, then Whiplash, then Thor, then Jane Foster, then Red Skull, then Iron Patriot, then Aldrich Killian and then Mandarin. Now they're adapting Ultron poorly.

People complain about Wolverine stealing the spotlight and X-Men/Spider-Man being inaccurate to the source material, yet state that Disney care more about the characters being comic accurate

 

[Adolfo]

I still would like to see Pym have some type of hand in it even as an assist or catalyst for Ultron's creation

 

[The Ween]

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LOKI!!!

That's the stuff that makes it all worthwhile.

 

[The Mike]

Avengers: Age of Ultron has nothing to do with the comic story's namesake And Iron Man will be the creator of Ultron not Hank Pym. Pym won't be involved"

Just read that too. Interesting how the information on these things change within seconds.

I'm interested to see how this pans out. If Stark actually "creates" Ultron then I wonder how much Jarvis will play into it. I hope Ultron isn't an evil Jarvis.

 

[hunnipot85]

I wonder when they will announce who is playing Scarlet Witch. I'm happy with their choice for Quicksilver.

 

[Bardoon]

If Stark turns out to be the creator of Ultron then I'm not at all too upset about that. It would make sense considering he's a genius inventor. And they have already touched on the drones in Iron Man 2 and the JARVIS-controlled armors in Iron Man 3. Ultron is a perfect natural progression.

Technically, he did give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3 right? So what's not to say he creates Ultron as a "Iron Man Replacement" and as predicted, Ultron goes out of control. Forcing Tony to once again become Iron Man and team with the Avengers to save the day.

It's a good way of setting up Stark's return to the armor as well. To clean up his mess.

 

[DFanatic]

Avengers: Age of Ultron has nothing to do with the comic story's namesake And Iron Man will be the creator of Ultron not Hank Pym. Pym won't be involved"

DAFUQ? That pisses me off already! What's the point in even having Ant-Man if he is not the creator of Ultron? It's a dumb ****ing character whose only interested fact about it is him being the creator of freaking Ultron! I love Iron Man, but having everything revolve around him is starting to make me sick. I would even rather they associated the creation of Ultron to someone else entirely, rather than Tony.

 

[Adolfo]

I gotta feeling Pym will be Co creator with Stark

 

[The Mike]

Well you have to remember that in Wright's original script it contained Pym handing off the Ant-Man mantle to a modern version. Who knows what was actually greenlit.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

DAFUQ? That pisses me off already! What's the point in even having Ant-Man if he is not the creator of Ultron? It's a dumb ****ing character whose only interested fact about it is him being the creator of freaking Ultron! I love Iron Man, but having everything revolve around him is starting to make me sick. I would even rather they associated the creation of Ultron to someone else entirely, rather than Tony.

I agree, it's basically merging the Hank Pym character into Tony Stark, there's no need for Pym at all with the way they're ruining his only key contribution to the universe.

If Stark turns out to be the creator of Ultron then I'm not at all too upset about that. It would make sense considering he's a genius inventor. And they have already touched on the drones in Iron Man 2 and the JARVIS-controlled armors in Iron Man 3. Ultron is a perfect natural progression.

Technically, he did give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3 right? So what's not to say he creates Ultron as a "Iron Man Replacement" and as predicted, Ultron goes out of control. Forcing Tony to once again become Iron Man and team with the Avengers to save the day.

It's a good way of setting up Stark's return to the armor as well. To clean up his mess.

I think it'll will play out well, just not like the comic at all.

I gotta feeling Pym will be Co creator with Stark

He's not going to be in the movie.

 

[RyanSD]

If Stark turns out to be the creator of Ultron then I'm not at all too upset about that. It would make sense considering he's a genius inventor. And they have already touched on the drones in Iron Man 2 and the JARVIS-controlled armors in Iron Man 3. Ultron is a perfect natural progression.

Technically, he did give up being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3 right? So what's not to say he creates Ultron as a "Iron Man Replacement" and as predicted, Ultron goes out of control. Forcing Tony to once again become Iron Man and team with the Avengers to save the day.

It's a good way of setting up Stark's return to the armor as well. To clean up his mess.

My thoughts exactly. They've already laid the ground work for this progression. And let's be honest, Pym's not a very good character, and in the MCU, there's no need for 2 genius inventors. I trust Whedon on this, whichever way he decides to go.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

"Well, because there was a book called 'Age of Ultron' quite recently, a lot of people have assumed that is what we're doing, but that is not the case. We're doing our own version of the origin story for Ultron. In the origin story, there was Hank Pym, so a lot of people assumed that he will be in the mix. He's not. We're basically taking the things from the comics for the movies that we need and can use. A lot of stuff has to fall by the wayside."

"We're crafting our own version of it where his origin comes more directly from The Avengers we already know about."

"Nothing can be translated exactly as it was from the comics; particularly Ultron."

- Joss Whedon

As far as adapting the comics faithfully goes the MCU is no different from what X-Men and Spider-Man.

Their movie universes are made from adapting various characters and stories from different eras of comics and different versions and forging a movie universe based on them by condensing the long history of the source.

Thats why MJ was in SM1 instead of Gwen and Wolverine and Storm were in X-Men instead of Beast and Angel, why Hawkeye and Black Widow were founding members instead of Antman and Wasp. They go for the most iconic or longstanding characters first instead of the originals.

They are changing Ultrons origin and Antmans contribution by having Stark do it instead, just like Wolverine taking the leadership role of Xmen. It fits for the movieverse but is a poor adaption of the source material.

Though they aren't new to taking things from the comics and distorting them drastically for the screen, people have mistakenly held them to a false standard of being more accurate than they are.

Joss say nothing can be exactly tranplanted from page to screen, he's wrong they could've easily had Hank Pym create Ultron, but they chose to instead have their main guy Stark do it for profits sake because he's more popular and bankable.

Its an unfortunate thing but as long as the movie works and is a good all round movie then it doesn't matter.

X-Men First Class is a perfect example, it altered the source to fit the movie, but was so great it didn't ruin the experience.

 

[spindrift]

I gotta feeling Pym will be Co creator with Stark

 

[Rotfish]

Although I'm not taking to them much.....they're half advertisements and they're pretty short. Is it just me or did comic books used to have more content in them?

They did. Less advertisements, more pages in general, and much lower prices. It's remarkable how satisfying an old Spidey comic from the '60s could be for 12 cents and now you have to pay $4 for three times less material (and I'm lowballing with that proportion).

 

[cr0w]

A stack of 8-10 comics these days will take me about 10 minutes to read through, if that. That's a big reason I just don't buy them anymore. At $4 a pop, it's a bit of a rip-off. And at this point, the universes are so convoluted that I would rather just watch the movies in their self-contained universes and be done with it. I haven't read X-Men since the Fatal Attractions storyline because it's just too complicated to keep up with. Add to that the fact that Grant Morrison has just completely destroyed my favorite parts of the DCU and I just don't care about comics anymore.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

A stack of 8-10 comics these days will take me about 10 minutes to read through, if that. That's a big reason I just don't buy them anymore. At $4 a pop, it's a bit of a rip-off. And at this point, the universes are so convoluted that I would rather just watch the movies in their self-contained universes and be done with it. I haven't read X-Men since the Fatal Attractions storyline because it's just too complicated to keep up with. Add to that the fact that Grant Morrison has just completely destroyed my favorite parts of the DCU and I just don't care about comics anymore.

Comics do become hard to jump into, even if you've been reading for a few years there'll be continuations of characters stories you've never read.

I'd suggest trying the Marvel NOW its a quasi-reboot to allow jumping inl

 

[cr0w]

I've become so disinterested in Marvel with all the reboots and changes they've implemented over the years that I just don't care anymore. The last thing I really enjoyed was Brubaker's Cap run.