Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

To be honest that's all I really got from it, I'll never understand why this man is labeled a "geek God".

Well, it wasn't because of Serenity

 

[jye4ever]

Singer better at drama

JW better at dialogue

 

[MaulFan]

I think it'll be interesting to see if the build towards Infinity Wars has a negative impact on phase 3, were phase 1 and 2 mostly planting seed so less studio intervention, but now, will everything be about building that up and getting in all the final pieces we may not have yet leading up to it. It seems like Marvel has what they want in the BIG story behind IW, and pushed that agenda on Whedon, but it's like, you brought him back because of what he pulled off with the first Avengers, why mess with it, and honestly, all the tie ins to IW really don't have that much impact. We don't need direct tie ins to build up those 2 movies, the decade of time and the countless movies and stories will have built it up fine without blatant reference. I feel like every time Marvel tries to force connections to the bigger story, things go wrong, Iron Man 2 is criticized for too much Avengers tie in, I feel Cap First Avenger was rushed through his WWII days to get him to the future for Avengers and took away some cool storytelling from that film. The best films in the series just happen.

 

[pturtle]

Singer better at drama

JW better at dialogue

I can't agree with that, after seeing what Singer/Kinberg did with Quicksilver I don't even know if Whedon is better at humor.

I think James Gunn is the go to guy for humor at Marvel. I know everyone seems to hate Guardians now but I thought it was a much better film than both Avengers, especially considering he had to establish a world and new characters in one movie as opposed to picking up where others filmmakers left off like Whedon did.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I can't agree with that, after seeing what Singer/Kinberg did with Quicksilver I don't even know if Whedon is better at humor.

I think James Gunn is the go to guy for humor at Marvel. I know everyone seems to hate Guardians now but I thought it was a much better film than both Avengers, especially considering he had to establish a world and new characters in one movie as opposed to picking up where others filmmakers left off like Whedon did.

Wait...people hate GOTG now too? When did that happened?

 

[jye4ever]

I like GOTG, great soundtrack, some cool action, but humor for me felt forced most of the time.

I much prefer Avengers/AOU way ahead of GOTG.

Avengers characters just much more cooler and more interesting than GOTG crew.

 

[pturtle]

I've been seeing it all over here recently.

I like GOTG, great soundtrack, some cool action, but humor for me felt forced most of the time.

I much prefer Avengers/AOU way ahead of GOTG.

Avengers characters just much more cooler and more interesting than GOTG crew.

I thought it had the most mature humor of all these films so far.

 

[jye4ever]

Movies that suck:

Raiders
Jaws
Star Wars
Empire Strikes Back
Terminator
Aliens
Robocop
Predator

 

[karamazov80]

Singer uses humor sparingly, and thus to good effect (like whenever Wolvie uses a one-liner). But that's never been his forte, even going back to the pre-X-Men days. Dialogue? I don't know if either are better or worse. They just have different approaches and different kinds of characters. Whedon always seems to have the cynical wise-ass often cracking jokes (Xander, Mal, Tony Stark), and that gives the conversations a different tenor than something where you are more focused on stoic, dramatic guys like Stewart, McKellen, McAvoy, and Fassbender.

 

[karamazov80]

Raiders
Empire Strikes Back

Don't let Khev see this! He says that Winter Soldier is the modern day Raiders or Empire. If you say those originally movies suck. . .well, I just wouldn't want to be in the room when that **** hit the fan.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Singer does a better job with the villains, IMO. Even in that terrible, forgettable, borefest they call, Superman Returns, the villain was ok.

 

[a-dev]

Movies that suck:

Raiders
Jaws
Star Wars
Empire Strikes Back
Terminator
Aliens
Robocop
Predator

I thought they were all crap before it was cool.

 

[jye4ever]

I've been seeing it all over here recently.



I thought it had the most mature humor of all these films so far.

But the characters from Avengers are so much more bad ass!

Singer uses humor sparingly, and thus to good effect (like whenever Wolvie uses a one-liner). But that's never been his forte, even going back to the pre-X-Men days. Dialogue? I don't know if either are better or worse. They just have different approaches and different kinds of characters. Whedon always seems to have the cynical wise-ass often cracking jokes (Xander, Mal, Tony Stark), and that gives the conversations a different tenor than something where you are more focused on stoic, dramatic guys like Stewart, McKellen, McAvoy, and Fassbender.

True, great dialogue has taken place between Charles and Erik.

Don't let Khev see this! He says that Winter Soldier is the modern day Raiders or Empire. If you say those originally movies suck. . .well, I just wouldn't want to be in the room when that **** hit the fan.

 

[jye4ever]

I thought they were all crap before it was cool.

You go a-dev.

 

[pturtle]

Matthew Vaughn brings the best of both worlds in my opinion. First Class wasn't perfect but it balanced the humor and drama perfectly.

I know it's all subjective, but these AOU of Ultron just felt like one liner after one liner, I got tired of it after the first 5 minutes.

You would think after QS bites it that Whedon would hold back on the jokes, but nope, Hawkeye saids another humorous line right by Quicksilver's corpse. I wouldn't even expect something like that out of a Michael Bay film.

 

[MaulFan]

Don't let Khev see this! He says that Winter Soldier is the modern day Raiders or Empire. If you say those originally movies suck. . .well, I just wouldn't want to be in the room when that **** hit the fan.

I need to watch WS again, I get some people thinking it really good and all, but from the one time I watched it, I would never consider it a classic like any of those movies, those movies stand out for very unique qualities, WS to me is just another good movie in a genre, nothing new or redefining.

 

[jye4ever]

Matthew Vaughn brings the best of both worlds in my opinion. First Class wasn't perfect but it balanced the humor and drama perfectly.

I know it's all subjective, but these AOU of Ultron just felt like one liner after one liner, I got tired of it after the first 5 minutes.

You would think after QS bites it that Whedon would hold back on the jokes, but nope, Hawkeye saids another humorous line right by Quicksilver's corpse. I wouldn't even expect something like that out of a Michael Bay film.

Humor can be used to help with tragedy sometimes.

I didn't think it was out of place. Still pretty sad scene, he was a beat man.

 

[pturtle]

But the characters from Avengers are so much more bad ass!

I care about them more but that's only because I've been familiar with them most of my life, I never read a Guardians comic or knew anything about them up until the film.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I need to watch WS again, I get some people thinking it really good and all, but from the one time I watched it, I would never consider it a classic like any of those movies, those movies stand out for very unique qualities, WS to me is just another good movie in a genre, nothing new or redefining.

Yup. it's the most overrated Marvel film by far.

 

[guy66657]

I think it's a near perfect Cap film.