Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

[chewblacca]

How cool would it be if Black Widow showed up in the Daredevil Netflix series?

 

[jye4ever]

What Clown, while lecturing and inspiring SW he stood up and shot an arrow thru a hole in the wall, he was bad ass in this movie.

 

[pturtle]

Not unless he shoots an M60 machine gun with one hand. The dude just shoots arrows and his hand to hand combat skills are highly questionable. Talk about mission impossible

Yea it going to be tough

 

[jye4ever]

Ween is going to come here and lay the smack down on you 2 clowns.

 

[YoNoSe]

They really do need to keep someone dead. Because comics.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

What Clown, while lecturing and inspiring SW he stood up and shot an arrow thru a hole in the wall, he was bad ass in this movie.

Yes....an arrow. His motivational skills are admirable. I'm sure he has a bright future as a coach or as a motivational speaker

Yea it going to be tough

Beating the Winter Soldier in a fight could do it.

Ween is going to come here and lay the smack down on you 2 clowns.

She won't come here. She's too busy watching Chris Hemsworth and Mjölnir in the Vacation trailer

 

[jye4ever]

Confirmed, my wife liked the Vacation trailer.

 

[jye4ever]

Why The AGE OF ULTRON Mid-Credits Sequence Kind Of Stinks

It's the worst credits sequence in Marvel Studios history.
By DEVIN FARACI May. 08, 2015


Audiences have come to expect a mid- and post-credits sequence from Marvel Studios. They've come to expect them to the point where Joss Whedon felt compelled to warn people his last film for the studios, Avengers: Age of Ultron, wouldn't have a post-credits stinger just so audiences wouldn't get mad about sitting through credits for nothing. Some people hate the credits stingers, complaining about... well, I'm never quite sure what the argument is, as their placement after the events of the movie make them extras, things you can easily skip without missing much.


They haven't all been great - I still don't understand why the Norse gods brought the Aether to The Collector at the end of Thor: The Dark World - but some have been sublime, like the now-famous shawarma scene in The Avengers or the Howard the Duck bit in Guardians of the Galaxy. But it wasn't until Avengers: Age of Ultron that Marvel served up a credits sting that was actually bad. And man, this one was bad.


Once again we were treated to Thanos, whose appearance at the end of The Avengers was actually awesome. There, as a guy in make-up, he said nothing, but he smiled when told that ****ing with the Earth was courting death. For newbies it was mysterious and odd, sending many people online to find out more about this weird character. For comic readers it was a nice nod to Thanos' story - a demigod who is in love with the anthropomorphic embodiment of Death, he seeks her approval by wiping out half the galaxy.


But this time Thanos' appearance wasn't mysterious. He had already shown up in Guardians of the Galaxy, and we had already heard Josh Brolin voice him. And it wasn't odd. He opened up a cabinet, pulled out a glove (the Infinity Gauntlet, for the comic readers) and said a quick line of dialogue. To make matters worse, his appearance didn't even feel like Thanos for comic readers. His pithy line - "Fine, I'll do it myself" - doesn't have the grand eloquence of Thanos' over-the-top comic book speechifying. It doesn't have that heightened, pulpy, faux-Shakespearian edge that Marvel Comics used to make its cosmic stories feel grand and smart, even when they were silly. It was just a dumb joke. And if we're really going to get into nerdy issues with it, the Infinity Gauntlet was already seen in Odin's secret stash in Thor... although that still makes no sense, because in the comics the Infinity Gauntlet is just a glove. It's not a special device, it's not a magical item, it's just Thanos' left glove, which is where he opted to mount all of his Infinity Gems. It could have been the Infinity Tiara or the Infinity Medallion or the Infinity Choker. There's literally nothing special about the glove, so why the hell is Thanos keeping it in a weird cabinet?


Worst of all, though, is the fact that this mid-credit sting isn't teasing the future or showing off something fun about the characters or the Marvel Cinematic Universe - it's just responding to fan complaints that Thanos has yet to acquire any of the Infinity Stones. Yes, it's weird that over the course of all these years none of the Stones have made their way into Thanos' possession, but I would rather see that be explained away in-story than lampshaded with a dopey joke. I would rather find out that while Thanos doesn't have the Stones himself he has been manipulating things to get the Stones where they are so that he can come collect them, as hoarding them to himself would rouse the suspicions of bigger entities in the universe. Making the current placement of the Stones part of his plan would also answer the question of why he was so stupid as to give one away to Loki back in Avengers. That's the kind of complex comic book writing I like, the kind that takes flaws and mistakes and weird story dead ends and turns them into something fun and imaginative, not a cheap handwave aimed in the direction of a bad parody Twitter account.


The contents of these credits tags don't really matter - at least one has already been retconned, and others don't exactly make sense - but they're a lot of fun, and they've become one of the defining elements of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Walking out of the theater buzzing not just about the movie but the fun tag is a big part of the experience. I wish Marvel had spent just a couple more minutes on this one, even simply giving Thanos a legitimate speech, a good cosmic villain monologue, in an attempt to capture the character.

 

[GasparZizou]

It wasn't worse than the GotG one, people had no idea who the **** that duck was and didn't care, I liked this one better, I don't care about new Thanos' look but it's growing on me, plus people liked it, there were a lot of people saying "uuuuh" or "oh ****", in fact, that scene got more reactions than QS' death.

So far, my favorite post cred scene has been Mjolnir.

 

[jye4ever]

I agree, wasn't that bad, people in the theater seemed to like it.

My favorite is TIH Stark and Ross.

 

[Khev]

I think when all is said and done AoU is going to be a special Avengers movie when people look back on it. Just thinking that of all the villains that the team has/will be facing; Loki, Ultron, and Thanos, that Ultron is really the one true "Avengers" villain. Yeah Loki goes back to Avengers #1 the comic but I still see him as more of a Thor villain. Thanos is kind of an "everybody" villain. So AoU has this one true Avengers villain, AND it features two overlapping team rosters. And it'll be the only one with Quicksilver, who was a staple of the team for many years.

Obviously these movies are going to go on for however long. Ultron could come back, QS could come back. But to have this iconic group of Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, the Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow, the Vision, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and a couple appearances by Falcon and War Machine. That's *deep* and with so many characters going their separate ways, who knows if we'll ever see a team or movie like this again (outside of free for all deals like Inifinity Wars which will combine the Avengers with other full teams.)

 

[crows]

I think when all is said and done AoU is going to be a special Avengers movie when people look back on it. Just thinking that of all the villains that the team has/will be facing; Loki, Ultron, and Thanos, that Ultron is really the one true "Avengers" villain. Yeah Loki goes back to Avengers #1 the comic but I still see him as more of a Thor villain. Thanos is kind of an "everybody" villain. So AoU has this one true Avengers villain, AND it features two overlapping team rosters. And it'll be the only one with Quicksilver, who was a staple of the team for many years.
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if we go by that then Ultron is just an Iron Man villain.
Ultron could easily fit in an Iron Man movie and they could write it so that Tony ends up destroying him on his own (if they had made Ultron the villain for Iron Man 2 or something)

Loki was taken down by All of the avengers, but if Loki is just a Thor Villain then Ultron is just an Iron Man villain as well. everything about him is connected to Tony

And I do not understand what you mean by Thanos is kind of an "everybody" villain does't that literally describe an "Avengers Villain"? a Villain that is the enemy of Everyone?

if anything that would make Thanos the real, ultimate avengers villain, not Ultron.

 

[Khev]

if we go by that then Ultron is just an Iron Man villain.

Nope. Research the character.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

It wasn't worse than the GotG one, people had no idea who the **** that duck was and didn't care, I liked this one better, I don't care about new Thanos' look but it's growing on me, plus people liked it, there were a lot of people saying "uuuuh" or "oh ****", in fact, that scene got more reactions than QS' death.

So far, my favorite post cred scene has been Mjolnir.

There might be more to the Howard the Duck end credit scene though.

I agree, wasn't that bad, people in the theater seemed to like it.

My favorite is TIH Stark and Ross.

I didn't dislike the AOU mid credit scene, but it was so quick. There was no build up, he just shows up. In the first Avengers, it was much better with the other talking and then we see Thanos' hand and finally his evil smile.

with so many characters going their separate ways, who knows if we'll ever see a team or movie like this again (outside of free for all deals like Inifinity Wars which will combine the Avengers with other full teams.)

Eventually the original actors will leave, but how amazing is it going to be if 15 or 20 years from now the original cast returns for a new Avengers film, assuming Marvel doesn't kill any of those characters.

 

[Khev]

Eventually the original actors will leave, but how amazing is it going to be if 15 or 20 years from now the original cast returns for a new Avengers film, assuming Marvel doesn't kill any of those characters.

Yes and crazy as it is to be looking that far ahead I'm very curious to see what the post-Infinity War line-up of heroes and actors looks like.

But this will always be a special era. I just don't see them EVER doing the Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War, etc., again after all these years of build up in the current universe.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I think when all is said and done AoU is going to be a special Avengers movie when people look back on it. Just thinking that of all the villains that the team has/will be facing; Loki, Ultron, and Thanos, that Ultron is really the one true "Avengers" villain. Yeah Loki goes back to Avengers #1 the comic but I still see him as more of a Thor villain. Thanos is kind of an "everybody" villain. So AoU has this one true Avengers villain, AND it features two overlapping team rosters. And it'll be the only one with Quicksilver, who was a staple of the team for many years.

Obviously these movies are going to go on for however long. Ultron could come back, QS could come back. But to have this iconic group of Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, the Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow, the Vision, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and a couple appearances by Falcon and War Machine. That's *deep* and with so many characters going their separate ways, who knows if we'll ever see a team or movie like this again (outside of free for all deals like Inifinity Wars which will combine the Avengers with other full teams.)

Nope. Research the character.

Ultron's first appearance was in an Avengers comic, while Thanos first appearance was in an Iron Man comic. I would say that both are Avengers villains, but because Thanos is not just an earth villain and he gets involved in other stories in other worlds/planets, so he's not just limited to the Avengers, as we saw in GOTG.

 

[Khev]

You guys are missing the point but that's cool. Not gonna argue Avengers semantics with a couple of DC boys.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Yes and crazy as it is to be looking that far ahead I'm very curious to see what the post-Infinity War line-up of heroes and actors looks like.

But this will always be a special era. I just don't see them EVER doing the Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War, etc., again after all these years of build up in the current universe.

There are only two options, imo. After Infinity War, if some of the original actors leaves, Marvel can either reboot those individual franchises or recast the roles with new actors, and continue the story keeping everything from phase 1,2, and 3 canon. Like in a comic, the look of the characters change depending on the artist , but the continuity is the same. Disney would be crazy to kill Tony Stark or start all over again from the beginning.

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

I'd hope for a House of M and Secret Invasion for the MCU. HoM would definitely be my most anticipated.


A Scarlet Witch film....I can dig it.

 

[jye4ever]

You guys are missing the point but that's cool. Not gonna argue Avengers semantics with a couple of DC boys.

I get and agree with what you're saying.