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This whole "he couldn't turn his head" argument thing is obnoxious. One of the most embarrassing criticisms of a sculpt I've ever seen. Did Sideshow take creative liberties? Sure, it's a work of art, but he could turn his head.



Well Said! Either you like the movie and can appreciate the statue or you pass on it. Bottom line I'm ordering it tomorrow! Any idea on the time it will go up for PO?

Around 3pm eastern.
 
Out of the 4 years I've been collecting SSC, this has to be the most excited I've been about a preorder. I'm rewatching the film now, and I still love it. I was 12 years old in 89 and I remember watching this on VHS day after day. I remember 3 films that I adored from my childhood - Batman, Predator, and Empire Strikes Back.

Bring on my Keaton Bats. I actually feel like a kid on Xmas eve again!!

Of course it sucks that we will not have it for 1 - 1.5 years. :(
 
This looks fantastic guys congrats to all that are ordering. I am fighting really hard not to want it. I know it is just because he is Batman is the only reason I want to buy it, because I don't love the film. Like it enough, but not love. I am going to just try and hold off for The Dark Knight PF's
 
Yes, this entire statue is amazing!! Just really remarkable!!! I keep going through all the photos over & over....Makes me hear the score from the film in my head :)

I love the HTs figure too. Its one of the best things HTs has done, and that was 2 years ago. I love anything 89. The Mime Joker came out fantastic.

But at PF scale, its just going to be such an impressive piece. I never owned any PFs, and Ive only seen a few in person at my LCS. But Im definitely going to order this and I hope we see TDK Trilogy PFs sometime this year as well :)
 
I remember watching this on VHS day after day. I remember 3 films that I adored from my childhood - Batman, Predator, and Empire Strikes Back.

Similar for me too.

When I was a kid it was Batman, Terminator, Empire Strikes Back and Robocop. Those VHS tapes were DESTROYED. I know the Axis Chemicals sequence and after the Museum in particular were horribly damaged from me rewinding back and forth to them. :lol
 
Suddenly, no one is bytching about the "head turn" anymore.

DiFabio, as always, spot on. I'll take it you are PO'ing this bad boy, yes?


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But Im definitely going to order this and I hope we see TDK Trilogy PFs sometime this year as well :)


Ledger Joker is coming, I bet it pops up this year. It only took this Batman 3-4 months to finalize and it came out of nowhere. A Keaton Batman and Ledger Joker are must haves for me, they're the main ones I'll buy to represent the films. I'll probably have '89 Batman and TDK Joker side by side above the corresponding Hot Toys shelves with the two different eras.



DiFabio, as always, spot on. I'll take it you are PO'ing this bad boy, yes?



Yeah. I'm not much of a statue guy, but every once in a blue moon I'll buy a specific piece that represents one of my favorite characters. This one is a must have. If the final product isn't to my liking (which I doubt), worst case scenario is I flip it and break even.

Like I said above, Keaton Batman and Ledger Joker will probably be the only DC sideshow products/statues I buy. I guess Bale and Nicholson would be tempting, but I HIGHLY doubt they make the latter.
 
its a fantastic statue but the 89 movie wasn't the be all and end all of batman. certain aspects were fantastic others fell well short and some were totally comic inaccurate. there really hasn't been a batman movie that has got it all right.

christopher reeve was superman. keaton not so much. bale not so much. west has the nostalgia but still...

its still a nice statue and if i found $400 i didn't need i would pick it up. i will stick with my hot toys figure.

CR superman pf only for me.
 
Ledger Joker is coming, I bet it pops up this year. It only took this Batman 3-4 months to finalize and it came out of nowhere. A Keaton Batman and Ledger Joker are must haves for me, they're the main ones I'll buy to represent the films. I'll probably have '89 Batman and TDK Joker side by side above the corresponding Hot Toys shelves with the two different eras.

Yah, saw the Heath Joker PF WIP...really cant wait for that!!! They will do TDK Batman and a 89 Joker I'm sure. Would love HTs to expand the 89/Returns line, but I think they are just too busy with current films, and I can't blame them. But once in a while maybe they will release some of the older characters.

I have wanted to buy PFs a bunch of times, but there was always too many HTs figures I wanted, so just didnt have the extra funds to get PFs.

But if im going to start PFs, nothing better to start with than an 89 Batman :)
 
This whole "he couldn't turn his head" argument thing is obnoxious. One of the most embarrassing criticisms of a sculpt I've ever seen. Did Sideshow take creative liberties? Sure, it's a work of art, but he could turn his head.




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That's one of those weird misconceptions that the fan base just loves to obsess about, the whole "bat neck" thing. "Ohhhh, he couldn't turn his head until Dark Knight", "Keaton, Bale, Kilmer, and Clooney couldn't turn their heads at all!". False. In every Batman film from '89 to Begins, he can move his head, just not well. It's not like the cowl was so stiff they couldn't look up or down or side to side. There's atleast one scene in every film where the actor tries to force his head to move to an extreme right or left . . . and succeeds. The most prominent ones are in Returns and Begins when Batman is driving in the Batmobile and Tumbler and has to look around. Even Clooney managed to do his odd head bobbing in the suit.


So hopefully we can put this to rest. That cowl wasn't some metal or wooden thing, it was pliable. They could turn their heads as far as this statue goes. The reason they didn't move it as often was because on film it didn't look natural. Some times the mouth would get all bunched up and turn with the suit. That's why it looks like the cowl doesn't even fit Keaton's face or Bale looks like he's about to burst out of that thing at times. Every cowl from Batman to Dark Knight Rises has been this cheap ***, latex rubber. Until 2008, the "bat turn" was the best option for a dramatic looking Batman.


https://youtu.be/sP9fFSc2Rx0



Just because they did that though doesn't mean they couldn't turn their head.


The part in bold is why I have a problem with it. This looks unnatural to me - like a cartoon. A slight turn would be different, but I personally think they went too far.

That said, I understand the point you're making. This is an idealized version of the character, with a basis in reality.

But it doesn't feel like Keaton in '89 Batman to me. Whereas the Hot Toys figure does. Personally, I think a 1/4 scale HT figure of this character will be far superior to the Sideshow PF.
 
Feels like it to me, this things screams 89 Batman and has me doing the Batdance. Is the dislike for this piece coming from people who don't want their HT fig to be superseded or what?
 
Well, I'm biased. I don't like statues.

I personally think they are going overly dynamic with the pose/sculpt.

Even the way they shaped his hand has a stylized comic book feel to me.
 
The part in bold is why I have a problem with it. This looks unnatural to me - like a cartoon. A slight turn would be different, but I personally think they went too far.

That said, I understand the point you're making. This is an idealized version of the character, with a basis in reality.

But it doesn't feel like Keaton in '89 Batman to me. Whereas the Hot Toys figure does. Personally, I think a 1/4 scale HT figure of this character will be far superior to the Sideshow PF.

Yep. It's nice looking but it's just that, an idealized version. If HT can take their 1:6 Bats and scale it up to 1/4 then we'd have exactly what I'd want out of something this size.

Feels like it to me, this things screams 89 Batman and has me doing the Batdance. Is the dislike for this piece coming from people who don't want their HT fig to be superseded or what?

I'd love for and had expected this to do just that for the HT figure but it falls short in my eyes.
 
This is the weirdest thread. Everyone starts off by saying People need to stop crying about the minor flaws on this figure ad it's day 1 PO, then they follow it up by stating their problem with this statue. I'm lost
 
Personally, I think this thing looks amazing. Yes, I think the head is turned slightly much than what the suit allowed in the movie, but I can get over that very easy. The one area I think it falls just short is in the Keaton sculpt. Those promo pics just don't look right when it comes to Keaton.
 
This is the weirdest thread. Everyone starts off by saying People need to stop crying about the minor flaws on this figure ad it's day 1 PO, then they follow it up by stating their problem with this statue. I'm lost

The internet will find a reason to criticize anything no matter how minute of a problem it might be and then blow it up into something much larger than it really is.
 
The internet will find a reason to criticize anything no matter how minute of a problem it might be and then blow it up into something much larger than it really is.

That's true, but a lot of people think the likeness is a bit off. That's kind of a big deal. I'm
Waiting for more pictures tomorrow, before I start a rant. He looks great in the video though and I hope thats how he turns out.
 
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