Premium Format Batman Keaton Premium Format Figure

[Cocoboloboy]

I bet if the he was looking forward no one would be talking about the turned head.

 

[sallah]

its a behind the scenes fact, but not part of the story. Its become something fans know, but has nothing to do with Batman himself. its like Yoda was a puppet. But in the film he was a creature. Its just part of movie making. the turning head had nothing to do with the story.

I completely agree. A limitation of the on-set suit that was not incorporated or elaborated on in the film shouldn't be regarded as canon to the character. If this were true, many of Iron Man figures featuring Downey's likeness should be half pajamas since they couldn't really make legs that allowed for sitting positions-




Point is... Just because something worked one way in real life doesn't mean it is intended as that in the film, otherwise stuff like the comic adaption wouldn't have shown him with his neck moving. They are adapting the character and his look... not the actor and his garb. So for me, this Premium Format isn't meant to represent Keaton acting as the character Batman on set- It is meant to be the Batman character from the 1989 film.

BTW- I think people are going a little overboard on how restricted the neck was. It wasn't like it was a neck brace. There was at least a little movement in there:



Sallah

 

[franpincho]

I completely agree. A limitation of the on-set suit that was not incorporated or elaborated on in the film shouldn't be regarded as canon to the character. If this were true, many of Iron Man figures featuring Downey's likeness should be half pajamas since they couldn't really make legs that allowed for sitting positions-


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Point is... Just because something worked one way in real life doesn't mean it is intended as that in the film, otherwise stuff like the comic adaption wouldn't have shown him with his neck moving. They are adapting the character and his look... not the actor and his garb. So for me, this Premium Format isn't meant to represent Keaton acting as the character Batman on set- It is meant to be the Batman character from the 1989 film.

BTW- I think people are going a little overboard on how restricted the neck was. It wasn't like it was a neck brace. There was at least a little movement in there:

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Sallah

Very well said. All this head turning crap is getting out of proportion.


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[DarkMagic]

Right, but if we are going by only what we see in the movies, how does that picture of Downey apply? Going by only what we see in the movies, Iron Man (the character, not Downey the actor) could get into seated positions while in the suit. Again, going only by what we see in the movies, Batman (the character, not Keaton the actor) could not turn his head that much.

That said, your second attachment pic makes a VERY strong case for his head turn ability. I suspect though, that there is more going on in this particular scene than meets the eye, since Basinger's arm and it's shadow completely obscures the bottom part of the cowl around the area that is bolted down to the insignia. Even if I'm right about that though, that's just grasping at straws and I can happily admit when I'm proven wrong.

At least once, in universe, Batman (the character) definitely does turn his head to as much of a degree as much as the PF.

 

[sallah]

Right, but if we are going by only what we see in the movies, how does that picture of Downey apply? Going by only what we see in the movies, Iron Man (the character, not Downey the actor) could get into seated positions while in the suit. Again, going only by what we see in the movies, Batman (the character, not Keaton the actor) could not turn his head that much.

That said, your second attachment pic makes a VERY strong case for his head turn ability. I suspect though, that there is more going on in this particular scene than meets the eye, since Basinger's arm and it's shadow completely obscures the bottom part of the cowl around the area that is bolted down to the insignia. Even if I'm right about that though, that's just grasping at straws and I can happily admit when I'm proven wrong.

At least once, in universe, Batman (the character) definitely does turn his head to as much of a degree as much as the PF.

Yeah but just because we don't SEE a character doing something doesn't mean they are implying that they CAN'T do it. We also never saw him eat a turkey sandwich... That doesn't mean he can't do it, it just means we didn't see him do it.

I do really appreciate your frankness and sincerity in accepting the second picture though man!

Sallah

 

[golobulus]

It should be bumped on a regular basis as it shows how awesome this is.

The teaser video really *is* awesome. Can't wait to order this. Sideshow has me right where they want me.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

I've freeze framed that screen cap before, sallah. His cowl and face are all kinds of distorted in it because he was struggling to look sideways in that scene. I suppose you could say he can turn his head if you look at it that way.

 

[vito81]

Sell all your 1/6 and buy PFs.

 

[sallah]

I've freeze framed that screen cap before, sallah. His cowl and face are all kinds of distorted in it because he was struggling to look sideways in that scene. I suppose you could say he can turn his head if you look at it that way.

I do... and I am.

Point is- He is turning his head. It isn't completely stuck looking forward, and it wasn't intended that the character is completely frozen between his chin and his shoulders. If the intention is that the CHARACTER can't move... why would they have had him trying so hard to turn his head to one side?

Sallah

 

[Cocoboloboy]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you on ignore now, sallah. That's just the way it goes. You have forsaken me as a true 89 Batman fanatic and you must suffer the consequences.

 

[Xaerius]

Get the comic PF and the Keaton PF. It's like the coolest thing to do. Then get comic Supes and Reeve.

Do it.

I knew I could count on you to aid me with this decision. I have the Superman PF EX on order and would love to get both Batman PF statues as well as the Reeve statue but I currently have 12 pre-orders and no idea how I'm going to pay for them all.

I'll have some time before the ES is announced...


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[sallah]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you on ignore now, sallah. That's just the way it goes. You have forsaken me as a true 89 Batman fanatic and you must suffer the consequences.

Ha! I have had a lot of insults thrown my way over the years... but the minute somebody tries to revoke my '89 fanatic card.... Things could get ugly.

Sallah

 

[Cocoboloboy]

Ha! I have had a lot of insults thrown my way over the years... but the minute somebody tries to revoke my '89 fanatic card.... Things could get ugly.

Sallah

Them's fightin' words aren't they?

 

[sallah]

Them's fightin' words aren't they?

Worse than bringing moms into this...



Sallah

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

I completely agree. A limitation of the on-set suit that was not incorporated or elaborated on in the film shouldn't be regarded as canon to the character. If this were true, many of Iron Man figures featuring Downey's likeness should be half pajamas since they couldn't really make legs that allowed for sitting positions-


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Point is... Just because something worked one way in real life doesn't mean it is intended as that in the film, otherwise stuff like the comic adaption wouldn't have shown him with his neck moving. They are adapting the character and his look... not the actor and his garb. So for me, this Premium Format isn't meant to represent Keaton acting as the character Batman on set- It is meant to be the Batman character from the 1989 film.

BTW- I think people are going a little overboard on how restricted the neck was. It wasn't like it was a neck brace. There was at least a little movement in there:

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Sallah

That's actually a really good photo. It illustrates that he did move his head. In fact, the angle of the turn in the photo is actually very similar to what they have done in the PF.

 

[Uncle Bingo]

BTW- I think people are going a little overboard on how restricted the neck was. It wasn't like it was a neck brace. There was at least a little movement in there:

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Sallah

Ahhhh that pic instantly owns all of Batman can't turn his head naysayers. I love it!

 

[pturtle]

Ahhhh that pic instantly owns all of Batman can't turn his head naysayer. I love it!

Money shot!!!

The head turn isn’t slight like most of the guys who love this thing are saying. But this pic proves he was at least capable of doing it without breaking his neck. I stand corrected.

 

[sallah]

Money shot!!!

The head turn isn’t slight like most of the guys who love this thing are saying. But this pic proves he was at least capable of doing it without breaking his neck. I stand corrected.

Thanks man...

Sallah

 

[morphosis]

Sallah!!!

1,000% agree!!! The not turning your head is more about how Keaton & film makers has issues with the restrictions a prop had after the film was released. Had nothing to do with the movie itself. The "turkey sandwich" actually is a funny, but relevant example. Plus the screen cap of him trying to turn his head. Just because it was not seen doesn't mean he couldn't do it in the story.

Restrictions from a prop doesn't have anything to do with a character, and the PF is a homage to the character himself, not restrictions to a prop / wardrobe because then every single Yoda Figure or statue should have like "puppet openings" to show he was a puppet.

Now if Batman said in 89 that "man, i cant turn my head to see you Joker", totally different story. Like he did in TDK where he asked Fox to make him a new suit. If a Begins PF came out, and Batman has turned his head to look behind him, then I would say "well, he really wasnt able to do that according to the story", then you got something...And its funny they used that in the film for a way to get a new suit because CBale had a tough time wearing it. Caused him headaches as we all know.

But 89, it was just the prop and Keaton telling the public he had difficulty with the suit. That should have no effect on what the PF pose can be.

 

[lava206]

Sallah needs to teach a university course on batman!!!