Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[jye4ever]

 

[batfan08]

God, I remember how cool everyone thought that was back in the day. Looks kind of ridiculous, now. He sure brought Bat-nipples back in a unique way.

 

[jye4ever]

Well the point i'm trying to make is that if some low budget film can perfectly show off a muscular body with just spandex/lycra certainly a 400 million dollar movie should be able to do it even better.

C'mon he still looks cool.

 

[batfan08]

I think it's just the first two. Third one's cool. First looks like he's about to take a ****, second looks like he's using his Batarang as a shakeweight. Maybe not bad on their own, but I think the nips compound the issue at hand. That trying to look cool too hard makes you look ridiculous.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I still really like that Dead End suit.

 

[bboy]

Man is it tough to be a bat fanboy around here these days? One of the sites I visit frequently is constantly putting out strange sarcastic articles about every move this movie makes, and then there's this site.

Regarding the rubber muscle suits, I'm pretty confident in saying Batman Superman and WW are three of best looking superheroes we've ever seen on screen. The only exception being most of the spidey suits, and cgi iron man. But the Batman from that short film with the Aliens (I can't remember the title) simply wouldn't work in this instance. Yeah it looks cool in an indie movie and In my mind while reading the comic books but it is clearly a very cheap thin material that a billionaire wouldn't be wearing. And god knows that suit probably tears and stretches like crazy while filming.

Anyway, I'm just going to keep my head high and go into this movie as excited as possible (and not to mention high as hell)

 

[bboy]

it's hard to keep up with the threads but I'm slowly recognizing some names and opinions. Is the general consensus here that the suits look bad?

 

[batfan08]

I still really like that Dead End suit.

It does look better in action. Still, though, I fail to see why some texturing gets such a bad rap. I get that all the super-armored stuff from Nolan's movies and the original four scared people off, but look at Deadpool, for instance. Totally faithful without being a lycra body glove with a ****-ton of pouches. The fact is that comics are a 2D medium. I get that, at the end of the day, these are still just dudes in long underwear, whether it looks like duct tape, rubber, metal or otherwise, but I also think that there's a certain standard that a compression shirt and some black underwear just don't really live up to. In the 21st century, anyway. Adam West pulled off the au naturel look, though.

 

[bboy]

I agree with that. And as odd as it sounds I think a huge aspect of superheroes is seeing their "bods" through the suits even if it is just a rubber muscle suit. It makes them feel larger than life and has been a comic tradition for some time. Lets be honest, it is a healthy dose of eyecandy for a lot of people as well as something to admire for those idolizing these characters.

 

[Snake Plissken]

It does look better in action. Still, though, I fail to see why some texturing gets such a bad rap. I get that all the super-armored stuff from Nolan's movies and the original four scared people off, but look at Deadpool, for instance. Totally faithful without being a lycra body glove with a ****-ton of pouches. The fact is that comics are a 2D medium. I get that, at the end of the day, these are still just dudes in long underwear, whether it looks like duct tape, rubber, metal or otherwise, but I also think that there's a certain standard that a compression shirt and some black underwear just don't really live up to. In the 21st century, anyway. Adam West pulled off the au naturel look, though.

I used to be of the mind that if the Batsuit ain't broke, don't fix it. But after looking at pics of this suit, I do think some form of texture would make it look less like a Halloween costume. I think it's due to the material just being a thin fabric while it's supposed to have body armor sewn into it. I think my main issues with the Affleck suit is the textured look they chose. I only see duct tape. And I just don't like it not having underoos. Same goes for Supe.

The Deadpool material was perfect.

 

[batfan08]

I used to be of the mind that if the Batsuit ain't broke, don't fix it. But after looking at pics of this suit, I do think some form of texture would make it look less like a Halloween costume. I think it's due to the material just being a thin fabric while it's supposed to have body armor sewn into it. I think my main issues with the Affleck suit is the textured look they chose. I only see duct tape. And I just don't like it not having underoos. Same goes for Supe.

The Deadpool material was perfect.

I honestly think Batman's works better without the underwear than Superman's. Bats has the benefit of having a utility belt to break it up. Superman not so much. I don't know. It's tough. Like I said about West, and the same way with Reeve, I'll always love those versions of the character, and they pulled those looks off like nobody else could, but I guess it's just that the times have changed, in a lot of ways. People are too jaded, and seeing a dude with his underwear on the outside doesn't seem like it would get the response that it did back in '78. At the same time, though, I do agree with you that there could be something to break it up a little.

I think that's one of the areas where, and don't crucify me for this, I think the New 52 style could really work. Those suits seem overly busy for comics, but I honestly think they seem more like pitches for how to make the classic movie suits work. I don't think you need as many lines as Jim Lee had, or for it to be anywhere near as segmented as the TDK Batsuit, but if you had it to where the grey parts of the suit; the majority of the suit, were over a sort of black underarmor, which you could get visible representation of in areas like the underarms, groin, etc. then you might have a way to appease both crowds.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I honestly think Batman's works better without the underwear than Superman's. Bats has the benefit of having a utility belt to break it up. Superman not so much. I don't know. It's tough. Like I said about West, and the same way with Reeve, I'll always love those versions of the character, and they pulled those looks off like nobody else could, but I guess it's just that the times have changed, in a lot of ways. People are too jaded, and seeing a dude with his underwear on the outside doesn't seem like it would get the response that it did back in '78. At the same time, though, I do agree with you that there could be something to break it up a little.

I think that's one of the areas where, and don't crucify me for this, I think the New 52 style could really work. Those suits seem overly busy for comics, but I honestly think they seem more like pitches for how to make the classic movie suits work. I don't think you need as many lines as Jim Lee had, or for it to be anywhere near as segmented as the TDK Batsuit, but if you had it to where the grey parts of the suit; the majority of the suit, were over a sort of black underarmor, which you could get visible representation of in areas like the underarms, groin, etc. then you might have a way to appease both crowds.

It does seem a bit difficult to get something in the middle of the suit to break it up without having it be underoos. I do agree that Batman can get away with it more than Supe, since Batman is typically neutral colored. I think segmenting it is fine, but I think it was taken way too far with TDK suit. Something along the lines of Begins would be a better approach IMO. Etched lines while not having an obnoxious texture to it as a whole.

As much as I like the Arkham City suit, I think the AC Knight suit is better in some ways.

I think while having etching in it, it doesn't make the underoos stick out nearly as much.

 

[batfan08]

It does seem a bit difficult to get something in the middle of the suit to break it up without having it be underoos. I do agree that Batman can get away with it more than Supe, since Batman is typically neutral colored. I think segmenting it is fine, but I think it was taken way too far with TDK suit. Something along the lines of Begins would be a better approach IMO. Etched lines while not having an obnoxious texture to it as a whole.

As much as I like the Arkham City suit, I think the AC Knight suit is better in some ways.

I think while having etching in it, it doesn't make the underoos stick out nearly as much.

Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment, and I don't think you could've cited a better example. I think something like that is the ideal that we should hope they reach, some day. Ultimately, though, what I appreciate about this suit is that it's veering more in that general direction.

It's not perfect, and, perhaps, it's personal preference, but I'd like to see a return of the yellow oval some day, but I appreciate how they tried to adapt Miller's version of Batman, in appearance, at least, as opposed to doing the typical thing and making a very utilitarian deal that's pretty much Batman in name only. Duct tape or not, he looks like Batman, and that's good in my book.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment, and I don't think you could've cited a better example. I think something like that is the ideal that we should hope they reach, some day. Ultimately, though, what I appreciate about this suit is that it's veering more in that general direction.

It's not perfect, and, perhaps, it's personal preference, but I'd like to see a return of the yellow oval some day, but I appreciate how they tried to adapt Miller's version of Batman, in appearance, at least, as opposed to doing the typical thing and making a very utilitarian deal that's pretty much Batman in name only. Duct tape or not, he looks like Batman, and that's good in my book.

I'll admit my biggest problem is the guy in the suit, as I've just never liked the guy. Maybe he'll surprise me. I don't hate the suit he's got, just nit picks I have with it that keep me from loving it. But you're absolutely right it being a step in the right direction. I would like the yellow oval back too, but with the flow of CBMs nowadays, it doesn't seem to fit into the grittier design formula that we're seeing everywhere.

 

[greygoose]

It's not perfect, and, perhaps, it's personal preference, but I'd like to see a return of the yellow oval some day, but I appreciate how they tried to adapt Miller's version of Batman, in appearance, at least, as opposed to doing the typical thing and making a very utilitarian deal that's pretty much Batman in name only. Duct tape or not, he looks like Batman, and that's good in my book.

I'd like to see a movie version of TAS Batman one day. I'm sure they could still make it dark and gritty yet still keep the design as a base. The grey/blue/black/yellow all fits together nicely.

 

[batfan08]

I'll admit my biggest problem is the guy in the suit, as I've just never liked the guy. Maybe he'll surprise me. I don't hate the suit he's got, just nit picks I have with it that keep me from loving it. But you're absolutely right it being a step in the right direction. I would like the yellow oval back too, but with the flow of CBMs nowadays, it doesn't seem to fit into the grittier design formula that we're seeing everywhere.

I think, like anything, comic book movies are a tide that ebbs and flows. Eventually, audiences will get sick of the light and fun Marvel formula and the dark and gritty DC formula and the dynamic will shift. I think the perfect example is, quite simply, the Batman movies. '66 was a hit, but when Miller came around and really brought his psycho Batman to the forefront, everyone started clamoring for the "real" Batman of the time. We got that in spades with '89 and Returns, only for the soccer moms to flip their lids at how dark Burton got in that one, and, thus, we got the Schumacher movies. Same deal with Nolan. People wanted their gritty Batman back after Bat-nipples and Bat-credit cards. Right now, DC are still riding the high from the Nolan Trilogy and embracing that same tone, it seems.

As for Affleck, personally, I think that, thus far, he seems like he might be the best part of the movie. I've never had a problem with him myself, and I think he's come a long way in redeeming himself from past career missteps, but, at the same time, I get that, for some people, some celebrities are just hate able, no matter what. For me, I'd probably say Miles Teller. Dude seems to have talent, but he just screams "colossal ******" every time I look at him.

 

[greygoose]

it's hard to keep up with the threads but I'm slowly recognizing some names and opinions. Is the general consensus here that the suits look bad?

Most things look bad to people on here.

 

[pturtle]

I think, like anything, comic book movies are a tide that ebbs and flows. Eventually, audiences will get sick of the light and fun Marvel formula and the dark and gritty DC formula and the dynamic will shift. I think the perfect example is, quite simply, the Batman movies. '66 was a hit, but when Miller came around and really brought his psycho Batman to the forefront, everyone started clamoring for the "real" Batman of the time. We got that in spades with '89 and Returns, only for the soccer moms to flip their lids at how dark Burton got in that one, and, thus, we got the Schumacher movies. Same deal with Nolan. People wanted their gritty Batman back after Bat-nipples and Bat-credit cards. Right now, DC are still riding the high from the Nolan Trilogy and embracing that same tone, it seems.

As for Affleck, personally, I think that, thus far, he seems like he might be the best part of the movie. I've never had a problem with him myself, and I think he's come a long way in redeeming himself from past career missteps, but, at the same time, I get that, for some people, some celebrities are just hate able, no matter what. For me, I'd probably say Miles Teller. Dude seems to have talent, but he just screams "colossal ******" every time I look at him.

Miles Teller definitely gives off that vibe, but he was so good in Whiplash that I can never hate him.


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[bboy]

woot woot bought tickets for opening night imax 3d. Was hoping it would be assigned seats and it's not. Looks like its going to be an anxiety ridden day. Hoping not to get stuck in the corner or front row.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Spoiler

Daaamn, go out and take some fresh air. **** me people are going crazy.

And for the record.
>I say suit isn't entirely fake muscles
>posts photo of not entirely fake muscles
>....
>profit

Alright, whatever works for you.

And for the last time (I wish)

Spoiler

I had nothing to do with the crows thing, deal with it.

And just to demonstrate either the complete lack of honesty and/or understanding (that's for others to decide)...
Ladies and gentlemen, I present you with the complete rubber muscle suit from MOS.
Maybe we should make this an annual event Gaspar..

>half of the suit has nothing on it
>some layers of clay are so thin they're transparent
>even boots have muscles
>this means 100% fake muscles


Wew lad. You said it.

>He really doesn't see it.
>This is the guy who thought the "S" on the roof was too perfect to be believable.
Boy, I am being told SO hard.

Are you referring to his crotch?
50%?

https://ie.ixl.com/promo?partner=go...q4ENIejaUCemrMiGQ3hGlZnAhfJyNDNbxoCOtjw_wc B



Transparent clay?

>Half of the suit is black
>Black literally showing over the thin white clay (or foam?) layers before it's painted
>This means 100% fake muscles
>B-But you said CLAY
Oh man, I know you think you're making a point...

I can see you're gonna be a great father, you're even giving me the education you didn't have, thanks man!

Half the suit is black?
Really?

See that picture on the left? see the orange area? that's the clay master, that's what is sculpted on the suit. The grey areas are not. If you honestly think that half the suit is not sculpted I don't know what else to say to you.

Regardless, you argued for about a year that Cavill's Superman muscles were real, I know int must have come as a big blow to you when you found out otherwise.

All the muscled areas on the arms, chest, legs, forearms are sculpted Gaspar.
The only areas not sculpted are his joints and crotch to allow movement. And even these areas are neoprene.

You simply can't admit when you are wrong.

...and this? Ah, at last the veil of the dark side has fallen. We see some true colours.

Neoprene is automatically a fake muscle huh? I'm having a hard time not feeling sorry. Neoprene on its own is not fake muscles, buddy.
Look at the upper edges of the pecs, the right quad, some of the obliques, the black neoprene NON MUSCLE is showing right through them in the middle pic.
Look at the right pic, even the BOOTS have sculpt on them!
Left pic is NOT the suit! Nor what they actually sculpted in the suit, man, go to the eye doctor as soon as you can.

>T-They're his joints
>Right elbow covered in sculpture RIGHT on the joint.

I am not laughing anymore, you dragged me into this retarded stream of fights just so you can dig up an old unresolved issue of yours, on which THAT ^^^ means 100% fake muscles to you. Now you're even saying the black neoprene is sculpted :

I said his muscles were accentuated with sculpture, I didn't say his muscles were 100% real, guise, I got told

I just can't wait until you go "i-it's just a movie you guys, i'm totally uninvolved" again.


>posts passive aggressive link
>I turn it around.
>HA! YOU SEE? HE'S TROLLING!
It's like I'm taking advantage of you.

Darn it!