Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[batfan08]

do i need to post the priest review of this movie again?

even a freaking priest hated it and didnt buy the " Christ allegory" at all, Or just to quote him, Superman is a "Slacker" he has all this power but doesnt really know what to do with it or doesnt really care.

Jesus was never a Slacker, he always did the right thing, Jesus always chose to help others, never had any selfish thoughts, If anything the Christ allegories makes this movie fall on its face even more. because Superman was nothing like Jesus except for the hammy imagery in the background

I never said it wasn't a half assed allegory, but to say it wasn't there would be to be in denial, considering that it seems to be one of the many complaints I see about Snyder's movies.

 

[batfan08]

Also, the whole "Superman's a slacker" thing is ********. If every "slacker" on Earth saved people from fires, floods, and other natural disasters, the world would be a lot better place.

 

[GasparZizou]

That priest forgot most of the movie by the time he made the video, not the first one to suffer from ADD with this

 

[crows]

I never said it wasn't a half assed allegory, but to say it wasn't there would be to be in denial, considering that it seems to be one of the many complaints I see about Snyder's movies.

ok i get you.

 

[crows]

Also, the whole "Superman's a slacker" thing is ********. If every "slacker" on Earth saved people from fires, floods, and other natural disasters, the world would be a lot better place.

compared to jesus, he definitely was.

 

[jye4ever]

What the heck did Jesus do other than create annoying sheeps that knock on my door at the worst time...which is every time they knock.

 

[GasparZizou]

What the heck did Jesus do other than create annoying sheeps that knock on my door at the worst time...which is every time they knock.

He could turn stuff into booze, that's kinda cool...

Last week when I went back home from jogging, these Jehovah witnesses were knocking at our the door and none of my roommates was opening, and they saw me, but I pretended it wasn't my place and walked past it, cause I didn't want to be the one to talk to them, so I walk around the block at a slow pace, figuring they'd be gone by the time I came around.

When I walked around the corner they were just at the next door so I said "**** it" and went in while they were watching... Me with this stupid silly polite apologetic smile on my face

I was surprised they didn't come back and knock again, I don't know if they thought I was retarded or took the hint

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He could turn stuff into booze, that's kinda cool...

Last week when I went back home from jogging, these Jehovah witnesses were knocking at our the door and none of my roommates was opening, and they saw me, but I pretended it wasn't my place and walked past it, cause I didn't want to be the one to talk to them, so I walk around the block at a slow pace, figuring they'd be gone by the time I came around.

When I walked around the corner they were just at the next door so I said "**** it" and went in while they were watching... Me with this stupid silly polite apologetic smile on my face

I was surprised they didn't come back and knock again, I don't know if they thought I was retarded or took the hint

 

[Prime Clone]

They obviously decided at some point (most likely when they announced the movie was being delayed a year) that ending with the BvS fight would leave too much distance to "uniting" the JL. So they had to add a conflict that would bring Bats and Supes (not to mention WW) together and better set the scene for JL.

It worked for me but I can understand why others think it was all too much.

 

[cmiller99]

You never want directors to add more than what is "necessary" to tell a story? How do you draw that line? I can probably think of a dozen unnecessary moments in any one of my favorite films; remove any of those moments and the film still works, but having them in there just elevates the film that much more. James Cameron was a master of adding "unnecessary" thrills. The Terminator could have ended when the 18 wheeler exploded, ALIENS could have ended when the colony was nuked, etc.

Those James Cameron comparisons aren't valid IMO because those sequences had a thematic purpose - the Terminator won't stop because it's a perfect killing machine, the Alien Queen won't stop because it's a perfect killer organism hell bent on revenge; so the movie/plight of the characters doesn't end that easily.

Doomsday was just there to kill Superman, in all honesty. He didn't serve any other story or thematic purpose other than killing Superman. The reason he's unnecessary is that he adds nothing else to the plot other than an action scene with the trinity.
I'm not even sure why Luthor made him, TBH. Was he just a glorified backup plan in case Batman didn't kill Superman? Because how did Lex know for sure that Batman was going to take on Superman with the Kryptonite or that he'd even be successful? Having a smaller scale Kryptonite-based backup plan like a sniper with a Kryptonite bullet (i.e. not a huge monster like Doomsday) makes more sense and also would make it less easy to trace the whole damn thing back to Luthor.

 

[CeltyPredator]

The only thing I got for Doomsday is that he's pure hate personified. An ugly mass of ****, which hurt and murders without remorse. It's not a terrible metaphor. But the problem is it just isn't all that interesting. At least not to me. Maybe the directors cut might help a little bit.

 

[YoNoSe]

Kryptonite Jolly Rancher. Boom.

 

[RIDDICK]

Knowing that director's cut of Watchmen didn't fix **** I wouldn't expect anything else from this.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

Kryptonite Jolly Rancher. Boom.

That makes more sense than Doomsday in this movie. Seriously.

 

[crows]

Knowing that director's cut of Watchmen didn't fix **** I wouldn't expect anything else from this.

but it definitely did

daredevil directors cut also fixed that movie, much better with the extra scenes

 

[RIDDICK]

I was talkin' about Snyder's work.
And as people said already, BvS can be fixed only by cuttin' stuff from it.

 

[ZombieRepublican]

I was talkin' about Snyder's work.
And as people said already, BvS can be fixed only by cuttin' stuff from it.

I think context would fix a lot of stuff! It could improve the movie alot imo

If you didn't like the dower tone then sure that's not getting fixed

 

[olbertfrog]

he adds nothing else to the plot other than an action scene with the trinity

More superheroes fights whats not to like after tons of movies showing lame street fights and heavy lifting.
Im playing the devils advocate here because i also think they should have focused on Bat vs Supes And keep Doomsday for later. But on a sidenote i like that the movie is being this generous and that the Doomsday thing is done.

I'm not even sure why Luthor made him, TBH. Was he just a glorified backup plan in case Batman didn't kill Superman? Because how did Lex know for sure that Batman was going to take on Superman with the Kryptonite or that he'd even be successful? Having a smaller scale Kryptonite-based backup plan like a sniper with a Kryptonite bullet (i.e. not a huge monster like Doomsday) makes more sense and also would make it less easy to trace the whole damn thing back to Luthor.

Luthor was toying with Kryptonian tech, mad scientist style.
If Bat had succeeded he would have probably been killed by his own creation, or he would just watched Doomsday destroying everything for the fun of it. Hes a psychopath no?
So im not sure he had a plan all along save for Bat vs Supes, the rest is playing it as it comes.
The Sniper thing would be efficient (reminds me of a short Batman story drawn by Brian Bolland about a regular guy who explain how he ´s going to kill Bat, no big bad foes, gadgets or evil plans, he Will just shoot him in the head from far and go back to his life) but Lex wants more than that.
He wants to humiliate Supes. By adding his DNA to the mix its as if he is punching Supes himself.
So to me Doomsday serves his purpose and Lex won in the end, kinda...

I think the extended cut (Frankly i think that its actually the original intended Snyders cut and then he removed stuff to get What Warner wanted) is gonna fix a lot of the issues, flesh out more some situations.
Probably not gonna change the mind of those who didnt like the movie at its core.

 

[jye4ever]

I like that angle...Lex feeling like he's the one physically assaulting Superman.

Sure his Doomsday creation put himself at risk but history has proven that geniouses have always placed themselves at risk, be it physically, financially, socially, legally or academically.

Now add a layer of psychotic anti social narcissistic jealously behavior to the equation and you get this Lex.

Oh well, I don't need the extended to convince me to like this movie, theatrical was enjoyable enough but i'm very curious to see why WB felt it was needed or if it will change opinions on it.

Look at Aliens, it certainly didn't need the extended for it to be great.

But some could argue that BvS is in desperate need of one.

 

[RIDDICK]

Look at Aliens, it certainly didn't need the extended for it to be great.

Outside of needless pre-invasion colony stuff and pointless derelict discovery the director's cut is better.
Theatrical just feels incomplete without Ripley's character development and some other stuff.