I actually agree with you, but as I said, I do think it is far better than Man of Steel, as a film trying to tell a comic book story. Of course, you get inconsistencies and issues with almost any movie, but on the whole the movie progressed logically, I knew where the characters were coming from, I liked the characters (mostly), it was fun, the action was good, it had a nice conclusion, etc. From a popcorn movie, I wouldn't ask for much more.
I think I could have looked past all of that stuff as well, except that the creators just fundamentally differed with me on how Superman should be handled and represented across the board. As such, the things that really worked for me in Man of Steel (casting of Cavill, action, and Russell Crowe are all I can think of right now. . .well, the dildo ships were pretty funny I guess, and the suicidal Pa Kent was memorable in its way) couldn't hope to outweigh the other negatives, and in fact, further highlighted the flaws. In a movie that is pretty well made and knows what it is doing, I will usually ignore most of the flaws, and that happened for me with Avengers.MOS is a strange beast for me. It goofs in such big ways, but somehow I find the whole greater than it's parts. Codex nonsense? Silly. Tornado? Outright idiotic. Superman luring destruction to Earth before giving Earth a reason to appreciate him? Poorly thought out. Destruction, screaming, smugness, then uplifting first day at work? As you say totally all over the place. But damn if I don't still like the vibe I get while watching it. Cavill is awesome, the visuals are amazing, the music well done, the bad guys are total badasses, I just like it, even if I have hard time respecting it.
TWS struck the right balance. MOS went with real world destruction. Avengers went too far in the no consequences direction. TWS played in the comic book universe. SHIELD has actual weaponry, and they were using it, as was HYDRA. There is a sense of loss, but the movie does not dwell on it. I would love for MOS2 to move more that direction. Not abandon what they established, but reign it in just a tad.
So true. As we've seen we can pretty much pinpoint or call out flaws from every movie. It's funny how movies vary in how much they have to get right to win us over. Some movies coast on built-in audience appreciation and some are just expertly made and it's such a treat when the two actually come together (TWS.) We all have movies that are our favorites, ones we outright despise, a bunch in between and even "guilty pleasures" where we intellectually know that the movie is bad or poorly made but we still like it. I'm not embarrassed to like MOS but damn if it isn't equally fun to laugh at it's mistakes.
I love it, the backlashes. Avengers is crap, Spiderman 2 is crap, X2 is crap, T2 is crap, Titanic is crap, Avatar is crap, anything that was massively popular when it came out is actually crap.
I love it, the backlashes. Avengers is crap, Spiderman 2 is crap, X2 is crap, T2 is crap, Titanic is crap, Avatar is crap, anything that was massively popular when it came out is actually crap.
The shelf life of what's good isn't long that's for sure.
The wish fulfillment part of it all is huge. That's why most of us first get into these characters as kids. We see heroes as bigger than life, and don't see any reason why they should be ashamed of it. And I do think Marvel gets that part of it, embraces it, and has succeeded because of it.
Great movies endure. There's no backlash against SW, ESB, Jaws, Raiders, ALIEN/ALIENS, Die Hard, The Shawshank Redemption, LOTR, etc., nor will there be against TWS.
I know there are kids today who think that STM and RoboCop 1 are too antiquated but they'll learn the error of their ways when they get older.
Nah some people like to slag Aliens. Hardcore fans of the first film resent its popularity over the original. Sounds familiar....
