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Beauty and the Beast (live action) - starring Emma Watson
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I loved the film! It was so good.
It topped BvS for opening March weekend and is number 7 of overall opening weekends
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4276&p=.htm
It topped BvS for opening March weekend and is number 7 of overall opening weekends
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4276&p=.htm
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Had to watch it as my mother in law had tickets that her company gave her for free. Family night, could't say no.
Not my thing, but not bad.
Better than BvS, that's for sure.
Not my thing, but not bad.
Better than BvS, that's for sure.
The Titanic of 2017.
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Well, at least, that's a movie I won't have to see. I can't stand Watson!
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Given that BATB is passing the $500 million mark today, looks certain Disney has yet another Billion dollar movie on their hands.
Beauty and the Beast 6/10
A Disney Fan review
People are raving about this, but its really not better then the animated one. As much as I like to look at Emma Watson, the auto tune, phaser and other effects they laid on her voice are just so obvious its painful to hear. They should have gotten an unknown who could actually sing the parts....because her acting would have likly been on par with Waston.
The singing for the rest of the cast is lack luster....the CGI is also ......even for a kids film. There were a few nice changes, but for he most part ...very forgettable remake of a film that required no remake.
Note: if you want to a true complete story of B&B i highly recommend the Broadway play. It is outstanding. once you see that, you will really appreciate how unneeded this film is.
A Disney Fan review
People are raving about this, but its really not better then the animated one. As much as I like to look at Emma Watson, the auto tune, phaser and other effects they laid on her voice are just so obvious its painful to hear. They should have gotten an unknown who could actually sing the parts....because her acting would have likly been on par with Waston.
The singing for the rest of the cast is lack luster....the CGI is also ......even for a kids film. There were a few nice changes, but for he most part ...very forgettable remake of a film that required no remake.
Note: if you want to a true complete story of B&B i highly recommend the Broadway play. It is outstanding. once you see that, you will really appreciate how unneeded this film is.
Spoilers coming for those that haven't seen the movie, though in some ways it's moot because it follows the animated version so closely. Anyway here goes:
Saw this on the big screen yesterday at a 50 year old theater that had been renovated with reclining seats and state of the art sound. I'm glad I did. It was a treat to see the visuals and hear all the music in full theater surround.
I didn't have any problem with Emma's voice, it wasn't as good as the animated singer but her singing didn't take me out of the movie.
The guy who played the Beast actually did a really good job and his facial mo-cap was often great. However the Beast CG was pretty inconsistent overall. I liked how he was lurking and jumping around like Krampus at the beginning.
I was a bit bummed that a number of my favorite moments from the cartoon weren't totally nailed in the live-action version. Be Our Guest wasn't nearly the show stopper in this one. The big battle between villagers and the animated furniture was flat out hilarious in the cartoon and just "okay" in live-action. And then the big one, Belle whispering "I love you" one millisecond before the last petal falls. One of the most perfect dramatic moments in probably any cartoon ever made. And they changed it! Having the petal fall after she said it with the "three's a crowd" aspect of the Enchantress standing there and reversing the curse anyway. That was the toughest change to take in. And that's the big downside to following a Best Picture nominee almost shot for shot. At best you're a nostalgic copy and at worst you're falling short of what came before.
However there was still a lot to like.
Let's start with Disney's "messages."
1. The "shoehorned gay character" was a total non-issue. Honestly if Condon and Gad hadn't said anything I'm not sure that I would have determined that LeFou even was gay. Gaston even asks him why he hasn't landed a lady yet and LeFou's response is "I've been told that I'm clingy" as opposed to something that would have more overtly indicated that he didn't like ladies at all. Sure the one guy who enjoyed being in drag was definitely gay but it was played for laughs and literally for like two seconds (no joke) of the 120 minute film.
Definitely not worth an uproar, boycott, or any of that especially with the messages that were actually *noticeable* in the film.
Ironically Christianity is actually portrayed very favorably in the movie. Instead of Belle getting her books from a bookstore she's a mocked outcast who seeks refuge in a handful of books kept on a table in a Christian church. The minister is very kind to her. This also explains why she is forced to read the same books over and over and REALLY magnifies the big reveal of the Beast's library. Of course she's speechless going from five books to over a thousand. Getting back to the church there's a scene where her makeshift laundry machine is ruined by townspeople and once again the minister comes to her aid. I don't know if I can recall a big mainstream movie not directed by Mel Gibson where Christians were presented as kind and comforting as opposed to finger pointing idiots. So ironic that Disney wasn't commended for this and instead some throw away gay jokes got all the attention.
2. Feminism. Okay if this is a "feminist" movie then that word needs to get retired along with SJW, Yatjua, auteur, and all the others. Belle was not militant or abrasive in any way. Nor was she perfect. Yes she stood her ground against a fearsome "beast" but then freaked out when Lemure started talking to her. She didn't figure out everything herself (her dad picked the critical lock to allow her to escape back to the castle at the end, more on him later) she just came across as a girl who had been raised right, nothing more. She was sweet and polite and even learned a little about not judging people until you learn their full story. And thank GOD she didn't kill Gaston (I was really braced for such an "update.") Emma was great, Belle was great.
She didn't even have as much "girl power" as animated Belle. In the cartoon when they have their playful snowball fight she tags Beast with a snowball, then he lifts a huge snowball above his head but she nails him again in the face causing him to drop the big snowball onto his own head. Basically gets the best of him three times over. In this new "progressive feminist" version she throws that first snowball but then he DRILLS her full on in the face with a volleyball size snowball and knocks her off her feet and flat onto her back. The snow hitting her face even made an Indiana Jones punch type sound, he totally annihilated her, lol. My son and I laughed for like three straight minutes. When do you EVER see women be the butt of physical comedy jokes outside of a Naked Gun flick? So again more kudos to Disney for not considering such a scene taboo.
3. And here's a big one: Dads. Maurice is NOT the bumbling doofus he was in the cartoon. He's rational, caring, and his resourcefulness saves Belle when it counts the most. And here I'm noticing a trend for Disney that I absolutely must give them a shout out for. As a single dad myself this stuff really sticks out with me but after portraying dads as out of touch and borderline idiotic in years past (Triton, cartoon Maurice, the Sultan) we've had a run of these awesome and heroic single dads in quite a few Disney flicks now. TFA Han, Robert Redford in Pete's Dragon, Galen Erso, and now Kevin Klein's Maurice. Smart and capable dads who are dependable, go to bat for their kids, not giving up on them sometimes even to the point of dying for them. Way to go Disney, much appreciated. Again, I can't believe the LeFou stuff gets all the press when they are doing such amazing things with these much more prominent characters.
Anyway, the movie definitely had it's shortcomings (not unexpected given the unenviable task of redoing such a celebrated classic) and it does ride the coattails of nostalgia but when that nostalgia works it REALLY works. I couldn't help but smile watching Belle have her big Sound of Music moment when she runs to the top that grassy hill or when they meet each other at the top of the iconic staircase to get ready for the big dance.
Some of the new stuff they added really makes sense (I love that the Beast's bitterness over being permanently cursed for one mistake leads him to do the same to Maurice and then Belle) and most of the visuals were quite spectacular. I'm looking forward to checking it out in 3D at home and even it doesn't match the original I think it will still be fun to revisit from time to time.
Saw this on the big screen yesterday at a 50 year old theater that had been renovated with reclining seats and state of the art sound. I'm glad I did. It was a treat to see the visuals and hear all the music in full theater surround.
I didn't have any problem with Emma's voice, it wasn't as good as the animated singer but her singing didn't take me out of the movie.
The guy who played the Beast actually did a really good job and his facial mo-cap was often great. However the Beast CG was pretty inconsistent overall. I liked how he was lurking and jumping around like Krampus at the beginning.
I was a bit bummed that a number of my favorite moments from the cartoon weren't totally nailed in the live-action version. Be Our Guest wasn't nearly the show stopper in this one. The big battle between villagers and the animated furniture was flat out hilarious in the cartoon and just "okay" in live-action. And then the big one, Belle whispering "I love you" one millisecond before the last petal falls. One of the most perfect dramatic moments in probably any cartoon ever made. And they changed it! Having the petal fall after she said it with the "three's a crowd" aspect of the Enchantress standing there and reversing the curse anyway. That was the toughest change to take in. And that's the big downside to following a Best Picture nominee almost shot for shot. At best you're a nostalgic copy and at worst you're falling short of what came before.
However there was still a lot to like.
Let's start with Disney's "messages."
1. The "shoehorned gay character" was a total non-issue. Honestly if Condon and Gad hadn't said anything I'm not sure that I would have determined that LeFou even was gay. Gaston even asks him why he hasn't landed a lady yet and LeFou's response is "I've been told that I'm clingy" as opposed to something that would have more overtly indicated that he didn't like ladies at all. Sure the one guy who enjoyed being in drag was definitely gay but it was played for laughs and literally for like two seconds (no joke) of the 120 minute film.
Definitely not worth an uproar, boycott, or any of that especially with the messages that were actually *noticeable* in the film.
Ironically Christianity is actually portrayed very favorably in the movie. Instead of Belle getting her books from a bookstore she's a mocked outcast who seeks refuge in a handful of books kept on a table in a Christian church. The minister is very kind to her. This also explains why she is forced to read the same books over and over and REALLY magnifies the big reveal of the Beast's library. Of course she's speechless going from five books to over a thousand. Getting back to the church there's a scene where her makeshift laundry machine is ruined by townspeople and once again the minister comes to her aid. I don't know if I can recall a big mainstream movie not directed by Mel Gibson where Christians were presented as kind and comforting as opposed to finger pointing idiots. So ironic that Disney wasn't commended for this and instead some throw away gay jokes got all the attention.
2. Feminism. Okay if this is a "feminist" movie then that word needs to get retired along with SJW, Yatjua, auteur, and all the others. Belle was not militant or abrasive in any way. Nor was she perfect. Yes she stood her ground against a fearsome "beast" but then freaked out when Lemure started talking to her. She didn't figure out everything herself (her dad picked the critical lock to allow her to escape back to the castle at the end, more on him later) she just came across as a girl who had been raised right, nothing more. She was sweet and polite and even learned a little about not judging people until you learn their full story. And thank GOD she didn't kill Gaston (I was really braced for such an "update.") Emma was great, Belle was great.
She didn't even have as much "girl power" as animated Belle. In the cartoon when they have their playful snowball fight she tags Beast with a snowball, then he lifts a huge snowball above his head but she nails him again in the face causing him to drop the big snowball onto his own head. Basically gets the best of him three times over. In this new "progressive feminist" version she throws that first snowball but then he DRILLS her full on in the face with a volleyball size snowball and knocks her off her feet and flat onto her back. The snow hitting her face even made an Indiana Jones punch type sound, he totally annihilated her, lol. My son and I laughed for like three straight minutes. When do you EVER see women be the butt of physical comedy jokes outside of a Naked Gun flick? So again more kudos to Disney for not considering such a scene taboo.
3. And here's a big one: Dads. Maurice is NOT the bumbling doofus he was in the cartoon. He's rational, caring, and his resourcefulness saves Belle when it counts the most. And here I'm noticing a trend for Disney that I absolutely must give them a shout out for. As a single dad myself this stuff really sticks out with me but after portraying dads as out of touch and borderline idiotic in years past (Triton, cartoon Maurice, the Sultan) we've had a run of these awesome and heroic single dads in quite a few Disney flicks now. TFA Han, Robert Redford in Pete's Dragon, Galen Erso, and now Kevin Klein's Maurice. Smart and capable dads who are dependable, go to bat for their kids, not giving up on them sometimes even to the point of dying for them. Way to go Disney, much appreciated. Again, I can't believe the LeFou stuff gets all the press when they are doing such amazing things with these much more prominent characters.
Anyway, the movie definitely had it's shortcomings (not unexpected given the unenviable task of redoing such a celebrated classic) and it does ride the coattails of nostalgia but when that nostalgia works it REALLY works. I couldn't help but smile watching Belle have her big Sound of Music moment when she runs to the top that grassy hill or when they meet each other at the top of the iconic staircase to get ready for the big dance.
Some of the new stuff they added really makes sense (I love that the Beast's bitterness over being permanently cursed for one mistake leads him to do the same to Maurice and then Belle) and most of the visuals were quite spectacular. I'm looking forward to checking it out in 3D at home and even it doesn't match the original I think it will still be fun to revisit from time to time.
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I thought that was much better because it changed it from being a matter of luck that she loved him at the very very last second into something better in that Belle started to love him from before and the Enchantress didn't care about the rose specifically but wanted to see Belle acknowledge the love.
even in the cartoon movie it is clear that Belle ALREADY loves Beast even before she leaves the castle and Belle is either in denial or just wont admit that she loves beast but it was always clear to me that she already did love Beast (Specially when Gaston talks about going to kill beast in the town when he was looking at the mirror)
The agony of Belle when the town is talking about killing beast was proof enough that she already loved him but she wasn't ready or brave enough to admit to herself that she loved him. once she saw beast wounded and defeated she was able to let go and finally admit to herself that she really did love beast, so the final petal was not as cheesy as the cartoon.
Also the Enchantress being there was much more important because it meant she never really left Beast, she was watching, she put a curse on the castle but she wasn't going to abandon them. she was waiting and hoping Beast changed. she was waiting to see him become a better person. the cartoon sucks because she puts a curse on this kid and then leaves him to die. which is extremely cold and mean from a witch that is supposed to teach this kid about becoming a better person
But the fact that she Was in the town all along and she came to lift the curse was much more powerful in my eyes because she didn't really leave him, she cared. she was a hopeful guardian in a way.
(Also, I did love that the book keeper was a priest and i love that they showed him as kind and benevolent. that was one of my favorite things)
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Idris Elba Auditioned for Beauty and the Beast’s Gaston
[SUB]Source: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/09/idris-elba-beauty-and-the-beast-audition[/SUB]
[SUB]Source: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/09/idris-elba-beauty-and-the-beast-audition[/SUB]
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