**BEWARE SPOILERS** Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness **BEWARE SPOILERS**

[user 64404]

Dude do you know that people can dye the hair right? Terry's mom is an asian with red dyed hair wich make Terry Asian(mother) American(Bruce).
a few examples of asians with red hair:

Also did you know that african descendent can have natural red hair right?

and why everybody has to look like Ian Somerhalder to you?

 

[Victοr]

Dude do you know that people can dye the hair right? Terry's mom is an asian with red dyed hair wich make Terry Asian(mother) American(Bruce).
a few examples of asians with red hair:

Also did you know that african descendent can have natural red hair right?

I think you're looking for excuses to make your headcanon into reality. Look at Terry next to Dana:

He doesn't have almond eyes, he's literally got squinty hunter eyes and arched eyebrows. Hell man, your entire argument on Namor looking Asian hinged on his eyebrows when for the longest time people just said he looked like beefy Spock.

Spock was played by Leonard Nimoy who's 100% Ashkenazi Jewish. The other character who was drawn in a similar way to Namor was Black Adam:

What, is he no longer a Middle Eastern/North African and is now somehow "Asian" because he's got arched eyebrows? Is Adam Warlock/Will Poulter Asian too?

They're arched eyebrows. That's it. The fact is that Namor's dad was Scottish and named McKenzie, and Marvel Atlanteans were tied to Hyperborea, Lemuria, all that Conan Hyboria lore, and dyed in the classical GrecoRoman fashion. Namor himself was styled after an Elf, an "alien" to the world of men, and had the build and characteristics of a GrecoRoman, complete with Hermes'/Mercury's winged feet. In no way was a blue-eyed Atlantean ever Asian, unless we're now going to retcon every single character with arched eyebrows into an Asian.

Mixed people are their own kind of category. They're not "African descendants" in the sense that the red hair gene popped up in and of itself, they're highly mixed people with both African & European genes. To add to that, "African" doesn't mean what you think it does. The people you posted have a Western & South African admixture. Northern & Eastern Africans are a different kind. Africa is a huge continent with tons of countries, peoples, customs and cultures. I get what you want to say, but it's not proper. As of today, Red hair occurs naturally in Cacucasian & Asian people. You want to headcanon that Terry's mum is a Half-White/Half-Asian redhead (remember, you need the blue-eye gene, otherwise I could concede that she's a very rare 100% Asian redhead) and Terry's got her genes and also Bruce Wayne's, which would make him at best 1/4th Asian? Be my guest, I doubt he'd look anywhere near the guy you posted. Dunno man, maybe she's Urdmunt, did you think of that?

Not to mention that is kind of a weird blanket statement. What does "Asian" mean? Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, these are all different people with their own characteristics. This comes off as very "lmao Asian peepo all look same". Maybe it's an American thing, but in the rest of the world it doesn't mean that just because you're part of the same race that ethnicity plays no role. All Euros are "white" but Nordics look different from Central Euros who look different from Southern Euros. Asians have a ton of phenotypical diversity and you can't just do a blanket cover of them. In the UK Indians go under "Asians" too. Each country has its own customs and ethnicities. Just because American productions play fast and loose with that sort of thing doesn't make it correct. You wouldn't cast a Tawainese to play a Chinese national hero. If you're so adamant that these characters look "Asian" to you then I need more than "uh, their eyes kinda look small and they have arched eyebrows" to win over their stated, actual, canon geneology and phenotype.

I still don't know what all this has to do with me not liking the choice of Namor & Atlantis going from GrecoRoman to a totally separate Civilization. I'm under no obligation to like anything, especially such drastic changes, and I'll voice my thoughts as best as I can. I already said that I'd prefer a racebend Hapa Namor & a GrecoRoman Atlantis over a MesoAmerican one.

and why everybody has to look like Ian Somerhalder to you?

Because he's got the kind of eyes (and also eyebrows) I'm talking about? Here, have Tom Cruise; same kind:

Anyway, I don't see the point in continuing all this. I've provided all sorts of evidence, that are however wholly irrelevant to the current topic, and backed up my opinions as best as can be. If you're excited about MesoAmerican Atlantis and that random guy playing Namor, whatever man, enjoy it. Even if I ignored the race & culture change, he'd still not have the face and body for it. I don't like what I'm seeing it and I think it's a needless change.

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Not that DS2 sounds any better. No matter the leaks and stories, no matter how much they vary (because a lot of them are fake) they all have one thing in common; Strange is barely a bystander in his own flick. I'm not expecting much from this either.

 

[user 64404]

Dude you just proved that Dana and Terry's mom are asian Oo, Terry is mixed ethnic.

Asian mean a person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

Dude you want to talk about how realistic is science(genetic) in a comic book? in the real world if i get bitten by a radioactive spider i would die and not becoming spider-man like in comics. Imagine if you watch dragon ball, a bunch of space monkeys who dye their hair in rainbow colors as they get angry.

Ps: about Terry's mom hair, she can always dye red if she did not born with red hair.

 

[Bleah]

You forgot to add this:

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Spock was played by Leonard Nimoy who's 100% Ashkenazi Jewish.

I didn't know Nimoy was Jewish. I thought he was an actual alien. He's the most alien looking person I've ever seen, even his name Leonard Nimoy sounds like it's from another planet or made up.

In my opinion, Nimoy is the only Vulcan in the history of ST that truly looked like an alien, and not like a normal human with fake ears and eyebrows.

 

[Victοr]

Dude you just proved that Dana and Terry's mom are asian Oo, Terry is mixed ethnic.

Asian mean a person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

Dude you want to talk about how realistic is science(genetic) in a comic book? in the real world if i get bitten by a radioactive spider i would die and not becoming spider-man like in comics. Imagine if you watch dragon ball, a bunch of space monkeys who dye their hair in rainbow colors as they get angry.

Ps: about Terry's mom hair, she can always dye red if she did not born with red hair.

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You find it easier to believe that Terry's a blue-eyed 1/4th Asian-3/4ths white guy with a Half-Asian/Half-White mum with dyed red hair, instead of taking it at face value. Even if that was the case, a 3/4ths white & 1/4th Asian person wouldn't really look Asian in the way people think of mixed race people, so I don't know why it matters. Whatever man, I'm not gonna get into a debate over it. It's not about "science", it's about basic features. I can see where you're coming from, since Terry did have squintier eyes than, say, his dad, but this is on the "DCAU Luthor was black" tier of misconceptions to me; I never saw those things. Terry was a typical NorthWestern Euro, Namor was a GrecoRoman/Scot with Spock's eyebrows, DCAU Luthor was Telly Savalas. But I guess if you grow up in a Metropolitan country you do see more genetic combinations. I've seen worse headcanons, I'm not irked about it. I just wanted to explain why I never saw it. And it all started from Namor & Atlantis and their roots.

PS: There are "Asians" with natural red hair, but they tend to be from places like Afghanistan and the such, so it depends on the census. Middle Easterns/Arabs do have natural red hair, but they're usually classified as Caucasians. In parts of Western China there are 100% Asian people with natural red hair; they're just very, very rare.

I didn't know Nimoy was Jewish. I thought he was an actual alien. He's the most alien looking person I've ever seen, even his name Leonard Nimoy sounds like it's from another planet or made up.

In my opinion, Nimoy is the only Vulcan in the history of ST that truly looked like an alien, and not like a normal human with fake ears and eyebrows.

It was the fake eyebrows, bowlcut and ears that really made him look too otherwordly. Look at him without them:

He still looks unique, but not as strange as Spock.

 

[matticus]

Not sure how it will play out in NWH, but I hope this leads directly into this movie. Clearly there are two points of incursion - one after Strange's botched spell and another one at what seems like the final battle. Makes you wonder what creates those large tears all of a sudden - long term effects from the botched spell, Kang, Wanda or some other entity.

 

[Ropen]

Movie magic, actor sizes from characters always trip me out, they are all sasquatches

 

[Bleah]

It was the fake eyebrows, bowlcut and ears that really made him look too otherwordly. Look at him without them:

All I see are yellow teeth.

 

[Victοr]

Not sure how it will play out in NWH, but I hope this leads directly into this movie. Clearly there are two points of incursion - one after Strange's botched spell and another one at what seems like the final battle. Makes you wonder what creates those large tears all of a sudden - long term effects from the botched spell, Kang, Wanda or some other entity.

I heard a rumour that there's a Post-Credits scene where Tobey & Andrew both visit their own Doctor Stranges. I think there'll be a small tease in NWH about what'll happen in MoM, but not much. Maybe a hint during Strange's last scene, nothing as big as a proper Post/Pre-Credits scene.

Movie magic, actor sizes from characters always trip me out, they are all sasquatches

Most are shorter than they appear. The only current actors I can think of who are genuinely tall (meaning around the 1.90 m mark/6'3") are guys like Affleck, Adam Driver, Hiddleston, Hemsworth. Obviously the Sakrsgards at 6'4" or so. Cavill's the King of Manlets at ~1.85 m. Cumberbatch is 1.80 m IIRC. The majority of them are shorter than the 6'0" cutoff. Tons of apple boxes and camera tricks are employed.

All I see are yellow teeth.

You'd think he'd be able to afford better dentures.

 

[ironwez20]

Dude!- jackollie

 

[JMT1979]

The second end credits scene in No Way Home is a trailer for this. It looks very promising.

 

[guyver1]

I wasn’t invested in this..but my appeal is growing after watching NWH

 

[chrisstbh]

Doctor Strange vs Doctor Strange, What If did it first. Yawn.

 

[matticus]

Doctor Strange vs Doctor Strange, What If did it first. Yawn.

What if continued? Didnt he redeem himself though?

Trailer brought a lot to the table to chew on. Shuma! Guess Witchy isn't a villain.

 

[matticus]

You can find the trailer on YT. Ton of uploads on it. Hope it gets released on Mon. I am pumped for how crazy it could be.

 

[matticus]

Leaked footage of Defender Strange:

Spoiler

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXmoeM1lXqW/

 

[Victοr]

I was coming here to post that myself. He has a ponytail. Dunno how I feel about that. Still, nice to get confirmation that the design is actually in the movie. I'm looking forward to the figure if it happens. I hope they have some outlandish cameos in it. Cruise Stark, Cage GR, etc. I'm not expecting them, but I do have some small hopes. With Raimi at the helm I can't help but wonder if he'll try and do some small nod to a sort of 2000s MarvelVerse between the actual flicks (like his Spider-Man) and the rumoured actors of the time. It'd be fun to see in any case. So far, Patrick Stewart Professor X is the one with the best chances of appearing as the leaked storyboards line up with the actual stuff they've shown.

 

[matticus]

I was coming here to post that myself. He has a ponytail. Dunno how I feel about that. Still, nice to get confirmation that the design is actually in the movie. I'm looking forward to the figure if it happens. I hope they have some outlandish cameos in it. Cruise Stark, Cage GR, etc. I'm not expecting them, but I do have some small hopes. With Raimi at the helm I can't help but wonder if he'll try and do some small nod to a sort of 2000s MarvelVerse between the actual flicks (like his Spider-Man) and the rumoured actors of the time. It'd be fun to see in any case. So far, Patrick Stewart Professor X is the one with the best chances of appearing as the leaked storyboards line up with the actual stuff they've shown.

In the blue explosion from the trailer I could only see the guy had a ponytail so that must be this Defender Strange. Interesting that in back to back MCU movies they are really showcasing multiple variants of the main character. Cool to see one that is an evil variant.

Not sure if he is the one from What if...?, but would be some nice marketing for the What if...? show. He has black around the eyes in the show at the end, but doesn't talk evil-y like the trailer. He does however send those eldritch tendrils out of his hand in the trailer so I would like to assume yes, that is the same dark Strange. I hope this movie is as weird as I want it to be. Strange is in everything right now.

Edit: Watching some clips from What if...? again, I forgot how he was split in two then consumed the good side. While he redeemed himself and seemed normal, maybe the performance might be altered to keep him evil-y. But Strange was left in his universe so not sure how he would get to the one overlooking some place looking out into a universal swirl in the background from the trailer.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Dr Strange better be careful the villain in this film doesn't know math. Apparently math is his kryptonite.