**BEWARE SPOILERS** Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness **BEWARE SPOILERS**

[darth dennis]

Mace Windu: "All Kit Fisto has to do is wait for you to face him underwater and you're dead."

Holy Sh*t, Kit Fisto is the Aquaman of the Star Wars universe!

 

[Khev]

Holy poo, Kit Fisto is the Aquaman of the Star Wars universe!

I'm still laughing at "I guess if the Chancellors quarters were under water..."

 

[JAWS]

Like JAWS said this is just a wacky fun and often times brutal adventure that is pretty pointless to nitpick (I mean really it's like nitpicking Army of Darkness, what's the point) but I'll throw out a few musings that I've thought about since watching it nonetheless:

(a-dev don't read these, lol)

1. How did the Darkhold curse Strange with a third eye after it had been eradicated from every reality?

2. Wanda seemed to think that the gig was up when her "children" looked at what she had become in horror. But like she had already stated she could have still just chosen kids from a universe that were still none the wiser. Hell I wouldn't have been surprised if she had just flat out killed the kids in that timeline out of rage before just using America to jump into a new one.

3. So the 616 universe is the only reality where her two sons are just figments of her own imagination? And they're real biological kids in every other universe? Can't she just theoretically find the father in this universe and have them the old fashioned way? Or find one of umpteen universes where their mom was killed by Thanos or a speeding bus or any number of things and just take over parenting them?

Obviously none of those are dealbreakers and "she was crazy" can be used to explain most things (and I guess we can pretend that the Darkhold planting a self growing eye in Strange's head before it was destroyed).

One thing that was really cool was to watch a troubled yet still overwhelmingly heroic character go to the "Dark Side" without knowing from the beginning that that was going to happen. I've often wondered what people who watch the PT before the OT must think when Anakin turns if they somehow could experience it without knowing who he becomes. What a shocking and horrifying thing for someone to assumedly enjoy this character in TPM and AOTC, then possibly years and years of TCW, before watching him give in to the Dark Side and start murdering good and innocent people. Especially in light of the so called "character assassination" when another Skywalker merely *thinks* of killing a bad guy for one split second in TLJ. Can you imagine the outrage if there was no PT and instead George continued the Saga after ROTJ by showing Luke turn evil and murdering young children, lol.

Anyway, this was the first time I got to experience that with DS2 and it was damn unsettling, lol.

#2 it was not that the gig was up. She saw what she had become and what she was doing to those kids. She was about to kill the mother of the children she loved. She was going to do it in secret but being found out made her realize the monster she had become.

 

[Khev]

#2 it was not that the gig was up. She saw what she had become and what she was doing to those kids. She was about to kill the mother of the children she loved. She was going to do it in secret but being found out made her realize the monster she had become.

Hmm, I'm not so sure. She seemed to convey that she already realized the monster she had become when America tried to make her aware by saying "your kids wouldn't want this" to which Wanda replied "they'll never know." But maybe she thought that the image of both boys hating and fearing her wasn't something she'd ever be able to shake regardless of which universe she lived in and that's why she decided to give up and end it all.

On another note one tiny little scene that I just absolutely loved was that one brief moment where 838 Wanda was in the weird nexus realm and 616 Wanda was cast out of her body. Instead of the movie just going light speed with the rest of the conflict (since it wasn't even about that other Wanda) they instead took a moment to show 838 Wanda gather her bearings, call out to her children and then jump back through the portal to her universe. On the one hand it seems duh of course they'd show that but on the other hand I just feel like it's really common place these days to leave a moment like that on the cutting room floor leaving the audience a little confused as to her fate so that dorks like me then have to handwave it away by saying "oh I'm sure she found her way back home off screen." I just really loved that they slowed down enough to include that bit, lol.

 

[jye4ever]

Khev waiting for that scene to end…

 

[e30ernest]

Hmm, I'm not so sure. She seemed to convey that she already realized the monster she had become when America tried to make her aware by saying "your kids wouldn't want this" to which Wanda replied "they'll never know." But maybe she thought that the image of both boys hating and fearing her wasn't something she'd ever be able to shake regardless of which universe she lived in and that's why she decided to give up and end it all.

I think it's the difference of being told vs seeing for yourself. Seeing for herself jolted her out of the denial she was in.

 

[a-dev]

Like JAWS said this is just a wacky fun and often times brutal adventure that is pretty pointless to nitpick (I mean really it's like nitpicking Army of Darkness, what's the point) but I'll throw out a few musings that I've thought about since watching it nonetheless:

(a-dev don't read these, lol)

Well I missed all the fun of the Spiderman thread for trying to avoid spoilers and so just said feck it with this one, I've been reading them. Just wasn't quite as excited about this or The Batman to care enough to be spoiler-free.

 

[Khev]

Well I missed all the fun of the Spiderman thread for trying to avoid spoilers and so just said feck it with this one, I've been reading them. Just wasn't quite as excited about this or The Batman to care enough to be spoiler-free.

Out of curiosity why have you been waiting so long to watch new releases? Is it just indifference to the current Hollywood offerings? I saw NWH, TB, and now MOM a full week after everyone else but still got to enjoy the films spoiler free and enjoy the back and forth here despite entering the discussions late.

 

[a-dev]

Out of curiosity why have you been waiting so long to watch new releases? Is it just indifference to the current Hollywood offerings? I saw NWH, TB, and now MOM a full week after everyone else but still got to enjoy the films spoiler free and enjoy the back and forth here despite entering the discussions late.

Not always, but very often, everyone I'd go with makes their own arrangements because they're couples. With Spiderman, well there was Covid-fear still being perpetuated when it first came out so there was that delay, but eventually me and my fellow singleton brother broke out of our respective disinclination to make plans and we went to see it. Covid-paranoia is now gone but it's just neither of us are particularly bothered in this case.

I believe I'll be going to see Top Gun 2 with one of the other brothers though. He brought it up specifically. Apparently it's pretty damn good according to reviews.

 

[JAWS]

Hmm, I'm not so sure. She seemed to convey that she already realized the monster she had become when America tried to make her aware by saying "your kids wouldn't want this" to which Wanda replied "they'll never know." But maybe she thought that the image of both boys hating and fearing her wasn't something she'd ever be able to shake regardless of which universe she lived in and that's why she decided to give up and end it all.

On another note one tiny little scene that I just absolutely loved was that one brief moment where 838 Wanda was in the weird nexus realm and 616 Wanda was cast out of her body. Instead of the movie just going light speed with the rest of the conflict (since it wasn't even about that other Wanda) they instead took a moment to show 838 Wanda gather her bearings, call out to her children and then jump back through the portal to her universe. On the one hand it seems duh of course they'd show that but on the other hand I just feel like it's really common place these days to leave a moment like that on the cutting room floor leaving the audience a little confused as to her fate so that dorks like me then have to handwave it away by saying "oh I'm sure she found her way back home off screen." I just really loved that they slowed down enough to include that bit, lol.

Having the children she loved see her as the monster and actually be terrified of her… that’s more of a wake up call

 

[abake]

Saw this the other day.
It was remarkably unimpressive. Impressively unremarkable also works.

It seems to me that Dr. Strange works best along with other characters that bring out the insufferable snob in him, like Parker or Stark. By himself he seems a bit boring. And all the schlocky made-just-for-3-D jump-scares were just soooo passé.
I should've waited for this one to hit D+...

 

[ironwez20]

Yup. It’s about time for marvel/Disney to stop stalling and bust out the characters people all wanna see. Yes we know some of these characters were popular when they didn’t have the rights to everything but now that they do it’s about time to put some of these c-z listers on the back burner for awhile (cough cough eternals) and break out the mutants or some of the Netflix guys. We aren’t in the rdj era anymore Disney we need some heavy hitters again. We don’t even have a black panther right now.

 

[Wor-Gar]

What's better: NWH, TB or MOM?

 

[jye4ever]

What's better: NWH, TB or MOM?

1. TB
2. NWH/MOM tied

 

[Wor-Gar]

2. NWH/MOM tied

Tied!!!? Really? MOM is not wholly reliant on nostalgia like NWH is, despite the Raimi pieces. So that makes me think MOM must be the better movie.

 

[Khev]

What's better: NWH, TB or MOM?

TB by a mile, but then I'd say it beats almost everything released in the last 20 years by a mile too.

Can't wait to get the 4K disc tomorrow.

 

[Wor-Gar]

TB by a mile, but then I'd say it beats almost everything released in the last 20 years by a mile too.

Whoa! 20 years! I'm trying to think of a movie that you may have overlooked. Nope, can't think of one.

 

[Wor-Gar]

One of the Pirates movies? Fury Road? Return of the King? Rogue One? No?

 

[jye4ever]

Khev is right however NWH/MOM will probably be easier to revisit more times than TB.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Khev is right however NWH/MOM will probably be easier to revisit more times than TB.

Really? Hasn't the nostalgia already worn thin on NWH? In 3 years, won't it virtually be gone by the time there's a new Spiderman?

Like the nostalgia of seeing the OT cast in The Force Awakens. I have no desire to ever watch that movie again.

That's the problem with nostalgia -- its moves ever forward to make new nostalgia. Always in motion is nostalgia.