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It's my Star Wars now.
Oh I see you payed Prime Clone a visit glad he was receptive to your needs lol
 
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We will never get our 1/4 ANH/ESB Vader so I might have to bite the bullet and get the new Hayden 1/4 Vader that has been rumored or just break down and finally get the ROTJ version in the secondary market.

Decisions Decisions

Bummer that we didn’t get a 1/4 Mando/BOBF Luke.
 
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You know I wonder if Lucasfilm got annoyed at that famous Obi-Wan versus Vader redux on YouTube and decided that they finally needed to show Vader in costume fighting an opponent super fast and agile which is different than what we got in RO.
 
Like I said this will either be a huge mess or super beautiful. Idk. I really hope Hayden pulls it off. He’s not a bad actor
 
It’s not Hayden I’m worried about whatsoever. It’s the script. I’m just hopeful that the overall fandom, no matter what, can recognise the difference between the actor, the character and the writing of said character. If Vader is written poorly, that is NOT Hayden’s fault.
 
The more commercials I see and the more the press tour drags on (especially the Kennedy face-lifting history revision in VF), the more I'm convinced this is going to be another turn in the downward spiral that is now SW. Kennedy doesn't get it. She never did, she never will. Won't be surprised to see this show be more like TROS than anything else. Disney's main concern is cultivating what the latest marketing algorithm is telling them are the new fans. What we'll continue to see is exactly what is happening to Marvel. Representation quotas over story and character development. Strip mining franchises over curation of content. How ironic that the catch phrase for The Mandalorian sums it up perfectly...this is the way. Indeed. Definitely not have it your way. And it being "their way" would be fine if it was genuine and interesting, But it's not.

And that makes me so sad.
 
The more commercials I see and the more the press tour drags on (especially the Kennedy face-lifting history revision in VF), the more I'm convinced this is going to be another turn in the downward spiral that is now SW. Kennedy doesn't get it. She never did, she never will. Won't be surprised to see this show be more like TROS than anything else. Disney's main concern is cultivating what the latest marketing algorithm is telling them are the new fans. What we'll continue to see is exactly what is happening to Marvel. Representation quotas over story and character development. Strip mining franchises over curation of content. How ironic that the catch phrase for The Mandalorian sums it up perfectly...this is the way. Indeed. Definitely not have it your way. And it being "their way" would be fine if it was genuine and interesting, But it's not.

And that makes me so sad.
I was halfway through this and agreeing, going “yeah, I wish they were more like Marvel” until I got to the Marvel part.

I’ll disagree there. Marvel’s “representation quota” is just being comic accurate. Marvel has always been inclusive, diverse, and celebrated for not just being full of representation, but doing it WELL.
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Stan Lee always talked about making stories that reflected the real world around us. That heroes and stories emerged outside of just white Americana but were global, universal events. If anything, the MCU is not remotely as “woke” as the comics they’re based on yet. It took 18 movies before a black man led an MCU film. It took over 21 films for a woman to take the lead in a Marvel movie. Where the comics are openly showing gay heroes, the MCU dips their toes in it and makes sure they can cut those scenes for international audiences.

But mostly I think Marvel is NOT like Star Wars because they DON’T play it safe. We just got an Evil Dead movie wearing a Marvel movie’s skin last month. We just got a crazy guy going through childhood abuse trauma with the help of a hippo goddess. We’re seeing the best elements of the stories of Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction, Dan Slott, and others in recent years.

I WISH Star Wars was like that. I wish they had the courage to make Boba Fett a villain like Marvel did with Wanda. I wish they had the competence to do a story without putting in every single cameo they can squeeze in there like Moon Knight accomplished. I wish they could move beyond regurgitating the same plots, same conflicts, same fights, same planets, over and over. Even friggin’ Eternals tried to do that.

Star Wars diversity was never the problem. Rise of Skywalker did an article showing off “the most diverse cast” in Star Wars history… but most of them didn’t DO anything. They were mostly set dressing. What’s the point of diversity if the story does nothing with them?

Rogue One actually pulled it off.
The movie didn’t succeed because it was diverse. It succeeded because the story gave its cast something to DO.

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Mini-rant over.
 
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I was halfway through this and agreeing, going “yeah, I wish they were more like Marvel” until I got to the Marvel part.

I’ll disagree there. Marvel’s “representation quota” is just being comic accurate. Marvel has always been inclusive, diverse, and celebrated for not just being full of representation, but doing it WELL.
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Stan Lee always talked about making stories that reflected the real world around us. That heroes and stories emerged outside of just white Americana but were global, universal events. If anything, the MCU is not remotely as “woke” as the comics they’re based on yet. It took 18 movies before a black man led an MCU film. It took over 21 films for a woman to take the lead in a Marvel movie. Where the comics are openly showing gay heroes, the MCU dips their toes in it and makes sure they can cut those scenes for international audiences.

But mostly I think Marvel is NOT like Star Wars because they DON’T play it safe. We just got an Evil Dead movie wearing a Marvel movie’s skin last month. We just got a crazy guy going through childhood abuse trauma with the help of a hippo goddess. We’re seeing the best elements of the stories of Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction, Dan Slott, and others in recent years.

I WISH Star Wars was like that. I wish they had the courage to make Boba Fett a villain like Marvel did with Wanda. I wish they had the competence to do a story without putting in every single cameo they can squeeze in there like Moon Knight accomplished. I wish they could move beyond regurgitating the same plots, same conflicts, same fights, same planets, over and over. Even friggin’ Eternals tried to do that.

Star Wars diversity was never the problem. Rise of Skywalker did an article showing off “the most diverse cast” in Star Wars history… but most of them didn’t DO anything. They were mostly set dressing. What’s the point of diversity if the story does nothing with them?

Rogue One actually pulled it off.
The movie didn’t succeed because it was diverse. It succeeded because the story gave its cast something to DO.

rogue_one_cast1__medium.jpg


Mini-rant over.
Great rant though lol

Thanks for the informative read :hi5:
 
I was halfway through this and agreeing, going “yeah, I wish they were more like Marvel” until I got to the Marvel part.

I’ll disagree there. Marvel’s “representation quota” is just being comic accurate. Marvel has always been inclusive, diverse, and celebrated for not just being full of representation, but doing it WELL.
Gsx-page-one.jpg


Stan Lee always talked about making stories that reflected the real world around us. That heroes and stories emerged outside of just white Americana but were global, universal events. If anything, the MCU is not remotely as “woke” as the comics they’re based on yet. It took 18 movies before a black man led an MCU film. It took over 21 films for a woman to take the lead in a Marvel movie. Where the comics are openly showing gay heroes, the MCU dips their toes in it and makes sure they can cut those scenes for international audiences.

But mostly I think Marvel is NOT like Star Wars because they DON’T play it safe. We just got an Evil Dead movie wearing a Marvel movie’s skin last month. We just got a crazy guy going through childhood abuse trauma with the help of a hippo goddess. We’re seeing the best elements of the stories of Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction, Dan Slott, and others in recent years.

I WISH Star Wars was like that. I wish they had the courage to make Boba Fett a villain like Marvel did with Wanda. I wish they had the competence to do a story without putting in every single cameo they can squeeze in there like Moon Knight accomplished. I wish they could move beyond regurgitating the same plots, same conflicts, same fights, same planets, over and over. Even friggin’ Eternals tried to do that.

Star Wars diversity was never the problem. Rise of Skywalker did an article showing off “the most diverse cast” in Star Wars history… but most of them didn’t DO anything. They were mostly set dressing. What’s the point of diversity if the story does nothing with them?

Rogue One actually pulled it off.
The movie didn’t succeed because it was diverse. It succeeded because the story gave its cast something to DO.

rogue_one_cast1__medium.jpg


Mini-rant over.
Lets not ignore DC's sensational minoriteam attempt :lol
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I'm still pissed we didn't get Snyder's Dawn of Justice sequel, - Sunrise of the Superfriends.
 
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Just because he said he didn't watch any episodes of the animated shows doesn't exclude the possibility of (when they were discussing/offering the role to him) someone from Disney/LucasFilm sending him a few clips of the character's scenes for reference. As usual people hear/see an isolated comment and are jumping to conclusions and assuming the worst. Regardless of how much research he did for the role, at the end of the day it would be the director's responsibility to correct him if his interpretation of the character was inaccurate or not what he/she wanted.
Take your mature, nuanced and tempered interpretation of out-of-context remarks and get outta here, we're trying to get a witch hunt going!
 
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