Bikers chase down family in SUV in New York

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yeah, meaning the bed should be there for the guy in the range rover only, as well as the doctors. **** the doodies on the mopeds. if it wasnt the guy in the rr hitting them itd be a tree, pavement, guard rail, telephone pole, ect......... im out to have fun and ride, these guys just want to show off and be rowdy. we have to share the road with cars and be civil with one another. they come in like a cloud of locusts and you have to watch out for them or theyll swarm you and treat you like a threat. this is why i like to just have a riding buddy or 2 and i never go to these huge bike meets, some of them can be really bad news. i just like to ride man thats it. i deal with people who make me upset and move on, although ive never been hit. not sure how id handle it but id like to think id calm down fairly quickly a hash it out and leave.

No. Meaning that people who go out to deliberately do dangerous stunts that could easily get themselves seriously injured cause a totally preventable burden on the medical system.

That does not apply to people who ride motorcycles who ride responsibly and DON'T do 100mph wheelies for fun on the public road.

Of course, being responsible also means wearing a helmet.

Needing to swerve to avoid hitting someone who cut you off and hitting a tree is totally different than doing wheelies or standing up on the bike seat at 60+ mph and crashing yourself into a pole.
 
i know the difference, you can still hit those things while doing tricks. i save that stuff for my dirtbike in the woods or a pit. i ride my bike like i drive a car and just stay in the lines.
 
Not sure you can sue when you're involved in a crime, but who knows these days.

You can sue in civil court. How fast we forget OJ was sued and lost for the murders yet was found innocent of all criminal charges.
 
for awhile Ive been wondering why they were trying to stop the SUV and there must be a reason behind it / something not shown on the video. But after seeing several videos like this Im beginning to think it was just them being complete douches...
[ame]https://youtu.be/QxAZ61hYxKQ[/ame]
 
for awhile Ive been wondering why they were trying to stop the SUV and there must be a reason behind it / something not shown on the video. But after seeing several videos like this Im beginning to think it was just them being complete douches...
https://youtu.be/QxAZ61hYxKQ
Well that is some interesting and totally unexpected news you posted there. I never would have guessed it.:pow
 
The cost that these riders incur on society is far worse than this.
When one of these guys messes himself up because of doing stupid stunts, that means there are less surgeons and medical services available to real deserving patients for medical care, like gunshot and stabbing victims, victims of drive by shootings and muggings, ect.

There are only so many surgeons and hospital staff and beds.

When one of these guys messes himself up doing stunts and gets medical care, that could mean someone else dies because they can't be treated, because the surgeons are already working on the reckless rider.

It would be different if these people had their own personal doctors and medical facilities for all their medical care.
They ride on the street, which is for public use, because they can't afford to or refuse to pay for a racetrack. I'm betting most race tracks wouldn't want to hold events for these people, because race tracks have insurance.

The insurance companies to a large degree determine what is allowed on the tracks, because without insurance, the track owner could be held liable for any injuries or deaths that happen on their tracks. Few insurance companies would cover events like this. Maybe Loyd's of London, but the premiums would be astronomical.

As long as these people use the same hospitals as everyone else, it isn't just THEIR lives they are risking by doing their stunts. They risk other people's lives as well, by potentially depriving them of medical care.

Society pays for these people's reckless behavior. It isn't just the rider's lives on the line.

By the way, the riders weren't really playing cops, because cops, MOST cops don't chase people don't to vandalize peoples vehicles and beat them to a pulp out of revenge. At least, it certainly isn't in the job description to do so.

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl Are you serious???

I'm pretty sure Tobey said a similar thing to Michael Scott when Michael tried to frame Tobey for having weed in his desk.:rotfl
 
:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl Are you serious???

I'm pretty sure Tobey said a similar thing to Michael Scott when Michael tried to frame Tobey for having weed in his desk.:rotfl

What part of what I wrote don't you understand? It is all perfectly logical. In fact, it isn't even my argument. It was made by a college Professor, as far as the reckless riders, people riding without a helmet depriving real deserving people of medical services.

Doing deliberately dangerous things for thrills and getting seriously injured and taking up medical facilities is totally different than being careful in life and then requiring medical care because you have a real accident.

Crashing a motorcycle because you make a mistake doing a wheelie at 100 mph or standing up on the seat no hands and hurting yourself isn't an accident. It is pure self inflicted deliberate injury, no different than jumping off a roof to see if you can make it and then breaking your leg.

It seems you have never considered the social cost of riding without a helmet or doing stunts to the rest of society that might desperately need medical care. It has happened before. It isn't speculation. There is really nothing funny about children dying from a gunshot wound as victims of a drive by shooting because the available surgeons are fixing some idiot's skull who was riding recklessly without a helmet.
It has really happened. It seems you find all that to be funny.
 
what this story really needed was a hero....

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But this guy hasn't been found innocent of anything yet, IF he will.
You can most definitely sue in civil court and be awarded money during the commission of a crime. There have been stories of burglars being injured by homeowners during break ins who have sued the owner and won in civil court. That is why the Castle Doctrine is such an important law for gun owners, Not only does it protect the homeowners legal rights, it also protects the homeowner from being sued. You get shot trying to break into a house? Too bad for you.
 
You can most definitely sue in civil court and be awarded money during the commission of a crime. There have been stories of burglars being injured by homeowners during break ins who have sued the owner and won in civil court. That is why the Castle Doctrine is such an important law for gun owners, Not only does it protect the homeowners legal rights, it also protects the homeowner from being sued. You get shot trying to break into a house? Too bad for you.

I remember reading once how in the U.K. Dog owners could be forced to tie up pets in case they bite a burglar....

"Dog owners might have to tie up their pets to stop them attacking burglars, police have warned – amid growing controversy over a clampdown on dangerous animals.

The Association of Chief Police Officers say planned amendments to the Dangerous Dogs Act could leave householders 'liable to prosecution' if their dog bites a burglar while they are out.

Ministers want to close a loophole in the law that makes it difficult to prosecute dog attacks that take place on private property. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320468/Dog-owners-forced-tie-pets-case-bite-burglar.html


so weird.... defending burglars that are trying to break in from your dogs.... wtf???
 
Medical care doesn't belong to anyone except for the people who provide it, until and if, they chose to sell their services. Society sure as hell doesn't own it.

Punks on bikes suck. Society is dumb for assuming the costs they incur. Shoveling up remains after they do stupid stuff is a municipal expense, and what municipal workers are paid for. Hospital bills should be no one's responsibility but their own. If they default, the hospital should sue and not defer the costs to other patients.

As far as the biker in this scenario is concerned, I hope it's expensive and I hope the law has the spine to make him pay.
 
My heart would've been pounding and I would've been scared. No denying that. The only thing the guy "did wrong" (that awful expression) was turn off the expressway. He handled the rest perfectly (under the same panicked mental state anyone would be in) until he got stiffed with traffic. Again you're not wrong either.

Typical ****heads though. I'd LOVE to see a single biker (or gang, doesnt have to be bikers) act the same way alone. I've seen it my whole life. Karma will meet each and everyone of them one day.


I agree with Voorhees 100%. behind a computer or not, NO ONE will harm my family, especially if i had a little child with me. I know this for a fact in my own head. I dont give a **** if anyone believes that or not.
 
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