Black Friday/Thanksgiving Retail Outrage

[Mr. Green]

yea, yea

 

[devilof76]

fascistfascistfascist

Too retarded. Didn't read.

High up enough for a better view of what is really going on in the world...

How many wrinkles on the sphincter?

 

[Eli26]

People complaining about people complaining. Oh what a vicious cycle.

 

[devilof76]

The people against work on holidays aren't just complaining. They're hoping for government to force employers to give them things that the employers have not chosen to offer. That list has become very long. Owning a business is almost academic at this point. Employers have all the responsibilities of ownership, with very little of the control (sovereignty) implied by ownership.

Starting a business these days is like asking to have a gun held to your head. All well and good for huge corporations who can influence the process of business legislation (not that they can mitigate the macroeconomic effects of how regulators dislocate markets). It's much more difficult for smaller operations who lack the capital to pay off the overseers, or deal with inflated wages/benefits, weakened currency, artificial interest rates, etc.

 

[Blackthornone]

The people against work on holidays aren't just complaining. They're hoping for government to force employers to give them things that the employers have not chosen to offer. That list has become very long. Owning a business is almost academic at this point. Employers have all the responsibilities of ownership, with very little of the control (sovereignty) implied by ownership.

Starting a business these days is like asking to have a gun held to your head. All well and good for huge corporations who can influence the process of business legislation (not that they can mitigate the macroeconomic effects of how regulators dislocate markets). It's much more difficult for smaller operations who lack the capital to pay off the overseers, or deal with inflated wages/benefits, weakened currency, artificial interest rates, etc.

CEOs of big corporations used to make 20 times what their lowest paid employee made. Now CEOs make 270 times what their lowest paid employees make.
That is why the lowest paid workers don't make a living wage. All that money has shifted to the CEOs.

The employees are doing all the work. The CEOs just sit on their butts basically doing next to nothing for 270 times more pay.
They certainly don't do 270 times more work.

All the employees are really asking for is fairness, like what employees had 50 years ago.

You see, that's a big reason why both husband and wife need to work now to get by, whereas 50 years ago, only one wage earner was needed, and there was more pay for that one than there are now for two in many many cases.

There is no excuse for that much inequity of wages other than greed.

 

[CelticPredator]

Well look. If you don't want to work on Black Friday, avoid jobs that deal with Black Friday. Simple as that.

 

[devilof76]

You'd think, right?

There is no excuse for that much inequity of wages other than greed.

There's no excuse for your pontificating when you have a kindergartener's grasp of economics.

 

[Blackthornone]

Too retarded. Didn't read.



How many wrinkles on the sphincter?

That's rather revealing.
I can't say I know.
If the sphincter means the world to you, why don't you tell me?


Perhaps you were waxing poetic?

 

[devilof76]

No, the sphincter is your view from an allegedly higher perspective on the world. My apologies if this is your first clue.

 

[Darkmatter]

Can someone please explain to me why people get all worked up when stores are open on Thanksgiving? Obviously the employees are not held at gun point to work that day. It's their choice to find a new job should they wish.

I see people complain and post on Facebook about this. Yet I bet if someone is choking on Grandmas turkey they would want the ampalamps to show up right? Or maybe they shouldn't go to the movies that day or Christmas either?

It annoys me. I don't get all the hate. Retailers are opening up and consumers are rushing out to spend money. If you don't like it, don't work or spend your money there. Its that simple right?

it craps on tradition. some people are traditional and others not. more are taking the non-traditional route of not honoring thanksgiving for giving thanks, but for fueling the insatiable desire of purchase. odd because you can buy 365 days a year, 24 hours a day on the internet. do these people really need to beat each other up to save $5 off a barbie? greed based.

 

[devilof76]

You know what you can all do with your 'greed' smears?

 

[Darkmatter]

corporate america=greed

you know that equation has been confirmed, right? big corporations have minions, not employees. if they could get away with live human sacrifice to sell some more junk to people that don't need it, they surely would be offering up one on the hour, every hour.

 

[Mr. Green]

the first thing I learned in Econonmic 101, in college, and in the Introduction to Economic book is that greed fueled America economy. it works and that's why Russia and China changed their economic policy to be like US.

And of course there's a dark side to this greed. Individual like Bernard Madoff, insider trading, etc will always exist as long as there's money and power exist.

I can't recommend this to everyone but if one is not satisfy, maybe one can be optimistic and build on the experience, by organizing a resume, and move to a higher position by building a career. I jumped job in my last career just like I am forced to jump position in this career in IT. I left my last position because my manager basically expect me to work for free. it was all rosy in the beginning and talk down on me in the end. there's consequence to me leaving but the company lost their investment in me as well. I have no regrets as I got my health back.

 

[devilof76]

corporate america=greed

you know that equation has been confirmed, right? big corporations have minions, not employees. if they could get away with live human sacrifice to sell some more junk to people that don't need it, they surely would be offering up one on the hour, every hour.

Greed=someone else pursuing their self-interest, usually successfully.

Selflessness=someone else giving you what you want, because you aren't capable of successfully pursuing your own self-interest.

 

[BadMoon]

Greed=someone else pursuing their self-interest, usually successfully.

Selflessness=someone else giving you what you want, because you aren't capable of successfully pursuing your own self-interest.

Money isn't everything put it sure does solve a lot of problems.

 

[devilof76]

Poverty being #1.

 

[Blackthornone]

Greed=someone else pursuing their self-interest, usually successfully.

Selflessness=someone else giving you what you want, because you aren't capable of successfully pursuing your own self-interest.

https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/greed
Greed: excessive or rapacious desire, especially for wealth or possessions.

The word you defined was Aspiration: 1.
strong desire, longing, or aim; ambition: intellectual aspirations.
https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/aspiration

The second word you referred to was not selflessness.
What dictionary did you use?

https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/selflessness
Selflessness: having little or no concern for oneself, especially with regard to fame, position, money, etc.; unselfish.

Your perceptions of words are falsehoods.

 

[BadMoon]

Poverty being #1.

You got it.

From one of the all time greats Charlie "Tremendous" Jones:

Once in a while you hear a guy say, "I don't think I'm fit for this business." You had better hope you don't get what business you're fit for either. Or you hear a guy say, "Enough of these guys that put their job ahead of their family; not me, brother!" Don't you ever tell me that! You know why a guy better never tell me he puts anything ahead of his job? He better never even tell me he puts church ahead of his job. Do you know why? I never saw a man who was any good at anything who wasn't good on his job. A man must learn that a job is just as sacred a trust as marriage. He's got to learn to love and honor and cherish his job, just like his marriage. If he doesn't, his job won't reward him anymore than his marriage, unless he does the same thing with it. That's not easy to learn. That's not talked about much. People who live in the realm of reality know it's true.

Show me a man who works, who knows what it's like to put his hand on the plow, and I'll show you a fellow who's learning great lessons for his family and his church. Show me a man who talks about what he puts first ahead of his job, I'll show you a guy who doesn't put anything first but himself.

 

[Blackthornone]

Poverty being #1.

Corporate greed CAUSES poverty.
Not paying a living wage results in absentee parenting, which is one of the reasons why children today are so disconnected from ethics in general. Corporate greed is destroying the world, in part by making good parenting next to impossible. You can't parent if you aren't there because you are working.
There is a difference between a high standard of living and being obscenely rich at the expense of others being able to live, motivated by a psychological feeling of inadequacy that you strive to fix with money.

Rich people are some of the most insecure people there are. Only an insecure person would pay $1000 for breakfast because gold is sprinkled on it. At some point, standard of living becomes ridiculously excessive.
The French Revolution should teach you something.
The lifestyle of French royalty became so obscenely opulent compared to the poor, that the poor rose up and beheaded the rich.
Big corporations seizing the resources of other countries by paying off corrupt foreign leaders causes terrorism.



Let them eat cake, right?

 

[Darkmatter]

Greed=someone else pursuing their self-interest, usually successfully.

Selflessness=someone else giving you what you want, because you aren't capable of successfully pursuing your own self-interest.

the key word is 'someone'. corporations have squeezed the 'one' out of our society as mom and pop stores were replaced with bottom line companies not willing to pay people a respectable wage. all so people can save 2 cents on a nail or 3 cents on a can of green beans. smaller stores owned by individuals can't compete with the pricing of corporations so they fail and close.

it doesn't even matter having a four year degree today. if you don't have a masters, you're working a job that may sustain you, but will never help you realize the american dream. that's if you can find one being that the colleges are churning out grad after grad with little to no jobs being offered. college grads are taking the burger king manager jobs that high school grads used to have. high school grads are collecting welfare and state assistance because they make more staying at home than digging a ditch.

the alternative is to attempt a successful business but 90% of new businesses fail in the first year. competition in the service industry is fierce as there are hundreds of others with the same idea as you. this is why there is such a separation in our social classes and the middle class has virtually disappeared. corporate america. open your mind and try not dismissing another view and you just might learn something.