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[woodsy]

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Sorry guys, I'm a bit late to this party ...Exclusive ordered ...like so many of you, I would have really liked the ex head to be helemeted ...wonder if we all made a request to SS would they think about changing it? A bit like the request for the completion of the 9 in PF . May be a bit late for that though. What do you think?

All-in-all I love the pose & sculpt and I am more than happy to add this very nice piece to my collection.



Bill

It certainly can't hurt. I did contact SS in regard to this and my suggestion [for a helmeted head] has been forwarded to the prod. team. I was however, also advised that the "prod. process is rather far along"...that being said changes are unlikely IMO. Still, SS did make some last minute changes to the Galadriel PF when they replaced the doll hair with sculpted so contacting SS is definitely worth a shot. One thing is for sure, after our organized effort to get SS to complete the Fellowship in PF we know that SS is listening, and that they are willing to make changes when enough of us get involved.

Prod. Suggestion Website link : https://www.sideshowtoy.com/helpdesk/?p=297

 

[bill59]

Request for helemeted exc head in now.

Also put it in as a question in the Q&A section.

Well it's worth a go...isn't it?...or am I




Bill

 

[dfchang]

It's always worth trying and respectfully giving the preferences of a passionate population of collectors should always be treated with an equal amount of respect by Sideshow.

That having been said, a re-sculpt at this late stage would be almost unprecedented. It's one thing to resculpt hair but a helmet would essentially be a whole new sculpt. The production sample may already be off to China for all we know. I would be over the moon personally if they changed the exclusive to a helmeted head but it would be a shocker if that actually happened.

I do find the open vs closed mouth very perplexing as a design choice myself. The difference is minute and to have to go through the cost of casting an entire second head with all the attendant risks in breaking during shipping just for that small change is really, really puzzling. It just doesn't seem worth doing in my opinion. At least with a helmeted head you can clearly see the difference.

It worked fabulously with the Moria Orc, why not do it again with the Mordor one?

Dennis

 

[bearmodel]

We need a BSP video ASAP....

 

[Barbarian]

We need a BSP video ASAP....

Yes! And a 360!

 

[toystales]

Request for helmeted head submitted To SSC

 

[Valarauko]

With the faster release pace that SS seems to be going for lately (ML in January, Gollum in May, Mordor Orc in August), my guess is that this is already pretty far along in development. Still, 6 months would seem to be a decent stretch of time. I just have no idea how long each facet of a project like this would require.

It would be a nice option to have though.

 

[bill59]

With the faster release pace that SS seems to be going for lately (ML in January, Gollum in May, Mordor Orc in August), my guess is that this is already pretty far along in development. Still, 6 months would seem to be a decent stretch of time. I just have no idea how long each facet of a project like this would require.

It would be a nice option to have though.

Yes I am sure you are correct Valarauko, it must be quite far down the line by now.

There still may be time at this stage however. I would be surprised if a helemeted head had not already been designed as a concept option. So at least that would save quite an amount of time. But I could be wrong.

If you like the idea of a helemeted head, then please make a request to SS. I ask this of all like minded collectors. If enough do so there is still a chance it could happen. If on the other hand there is not enough interest shown, then there is now way it will be produced.



Bill

 

[Bullseye]

Sometimes collectors have good ideas and post them on here, sometimes they don't. I just wish SS would sometimes listen to the good ones.

 

[INFECDEAD]

Sometimes collectors have good ideas and post them on here, sometimes they don't. I just wish SS would sometimes listen to the good ones.

Considering the cost of the statues and the number of creative minds involved nearly every EX piece should be a home run and shouldn't need our advice. Yet alone a nameplate...
It seems to me like the roundtables with the design team are a bit like the OCP board in Robocop 2 doing the new prime directives when it comes to their final product and the input that goes into them. It's how we end up with the "Nosferatu Alien".
I would have liked a fan vote on a piece like say the Morgul Lord back at the design stage between the contorted current PF pose and the definitive screen pose with the arms spread.
*Especially since these pieces will so rarely get to be revisited if at all.

 

[The Josh]

Sometimes collectors have good ideas and post them on here, sometimes they don't. I just wish SS would sometimes listen to the good ones.

Who says they don't? I'd bet my life on that they do.

 

[zero]

But any chance of sideshow to get it out with the helm??

 

[bill59]

Request for helmeted head submitted To SSC

Well done.

Keep them coming.

But any chance of sideshow to get it out with the helm??

The more requests they receive the better the chances.

Send in a request.



Bill

 

[woodsy]

It's always worth trying and respectfully giving the preferences of a passionate population of collectors should always be treated with an equal amount of respect by Sideshow.

That having been said, a re-sculpt at this late stage would be almost unprecedented. It's one thing to resculpt hair but a helmet would essentially be a whole new sculpt. The production sample may already be off to China for all we know. I would be over the moon personally if they changed the exclusive to a helmeted head but it would be a shocker if that actually happened.

I do find the open vs closed mouth very perplexing as a design choice myself. The difference is minute and to have to go through the cost of casting an entire second head with all the attendant risks in breaking during shipping just for that small change is really, really puzzling. It just doesn't seem worth doing in my opinion. At least with a helmeted head you can clearly see the difference.

It worked fabulously with the Moria Orc, why not do it again with the Mordor one?

Dennis

I agree an alteration at this point in time in unlikely as SS told me personally the prod. process is fairly far along already, but the addition of a helm to the existing open-mouth head would be no more difficult than SS sculpting Galadriel's hair from scratch. A helm, consisting of two pieces, designed to fit around the existing head [designed much in the same way as the hood of the Aragorn maquette] would not be an overly complex or time-consuming endeavor.

 

[woodsy]

Sometimes collectors have good ideas and post them on here, sometimes they don't. I just wish SS would sometimes listen to the good ones.

I think it pretty clear by the success of the recent 'Complete the Fellowship in PF' campaign that SS does listen to the idea's and suggestions of collectors. But there is no guarantee those in a position to make product decisions at SS are ever going to see our idea's posted here, or any other forum for that matter.

The only way to guarantee SS is going to hear us, is by contacting them directly. And needless to say, the more people who contact them, the more apt they are to respond

Prod. Suggestion Website link : https://www.sideshowtoy.com/helpdesk/?p=297

 

[woodsy]

Considering the cost of the statues and the number of creative minds involved nearly every EX piece should be a home run and shouldn't need our advice. Yet alone a nameplate...
It seems to me like the roundtables with the design team are a bit like the OCP board in Robocop 2 doing the new prime directives when it comes to their final product and the input that goes into them. It's how we end up with the "Nosferatu Alien".
I would have liked a fan vote on a piece like say the Morgul Lord back at the design stage between the contorted current PF pose and the definitive screen pose with the arms spread.
*Especially since these pieces will so rarely get to be revisited if at all.

You're forgetting about the maquette. I have contacted SS specifically concerning this issue asking them to consider the 'ultimate pose' for a ML maquette and they have mentioned this themselves in two separate Q&A responses. If that is the pose you want as well you can do one of two things....sit back, do nothing, and hope for the best -OR- contact them directly via their product suggestion form and make your request.

 

[Barbarian]

You're forgetting about the maquette. I have contacted SS specifically concerning this issue asking them to consider the 'ultimate pose' for a ML maquette and they have mentioned this themselves in two separate Q&A responses. If that is the pose you want as well you can do one of two things....sit back, do nothing, and hope for the best -OR- contact them directly via their product suggestion form and make your request.

We should all - every last one o us - work it like woodsy!

 

[The Josh]

Can't say Woodsy doesnt work the questions. Glad he does.

 

[Barbarian]

Can't say Woodsy doesnt work the questions. Glad he does.

Brother, we should should try as hard. I am going to try to use woods as a proper example for what I should do - what all of us should really do - speak your mind to those that matter and might listen. I am going to attempt to push the issue like he does. For real! Of couse, I have been drinking. I may just feel a little soapboxy.

 

[mr.thrifty]

But any chance of sideshow to get it out with the helm??

About as much as your name......