Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017) *SPOILERS*

[crows]

bees:
the director intended it to be a playful sign of hope in the face of climate change and endangered species.

interviewer : How did you decide that he would come across bees?

Villeneuve: There are a lot of problems with bees in the world right now. They are disappearing, so the fact that here you can see those creatures still alive and still present, was for me like a little spark of hope in this dystopian universe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/movies/denis-villeneuve-interview-blade-runner-2049.html

 

[ZaCHw117]

Also, in the original Deckard asks Rachel what she would do if a wasp landed on her arm, her response, "Kill It". K just looks at it when it happens to him.

 

[crows]

Also, in the original Deckard asks Rachel what she would do if a wasp landed on her arm, her response, "Kill It". K just looks at it when it happens to him.

it could be interpreted in two ways:

like u said, In the original Deckard asks Rachel what she would do if a wasp landed on her arm. She responds immediately that she would kill it; the desired human response. In the new movie, when a bee lands on K's arm, he doesn't kill. K stares at it fascinated. This to me was the most outright indication that K was not Deckard's kid. Rachel is used as a plot device to blur "what it is to be human." She was a replicant that, by all rights, was indistinguishable from a human: she had empathy, memories, and functioning reproductive organs. She basically WAS human.
So this scene overwhelmingly tells me that K WASN'T the same as Rachel, and isn't her child. This scene takes place at the peak of the script where the audience is supposed to believe he is the child, about to confront his dad, so this scene is a subtle nod to the original AND a hint to the audience that he is not the kid.

also Bees have been shown to detect and function as bio-sensor for certain types of radiation. In the book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" the radiation moves around through radioactive coulds, so the bees could be deckards way of monitoring air quality and radiation levels

 

[Username]

Replicants , I believe , are essentially flesh and blood with programmed brain.

The dog....the dog....the dog.....

How about the bees?

I think the bees were not real, and the dog was real.....I have no explanation except the bees didn’t attack K when he put his hand in the hive.

The dog? I choose to believe is real, although we know that animal are pretty much extinct now. Why? It’s to ugly to be engineered.

I’ll take the Joi in the film thank you.....that or the huge pink one.


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They are all fake.
Engineered.
It goes back to the original Blade Runner movie. Virtually all animals had perished.
The giveaway would be the fact the engineered Dog drunk whiskey.

 

[Khev]

I don't think BR 2049's bees were engineered. Each individual bee in the hive would have had to have been created since no one save Tyrell had cracked the code that would allow synthetics to breed.

In the book the insects were the first to die off after the war but I think that 2049 took a difference stance.

 

[ZaCHw117]

it could be interpreted in two ways:

like u said, In the original Deckard asks Rachel what she would do if a wasp landed on her arm. She responds immediately that she would kill it; the desired human response. In the new movie, when a bee lands on K's arm, he doesn't kill. K stares at it fascinated. This to me was the most outright indication that K was not Deckard's kid. Rachel is used as a plot device to blur "what it is to be human." She was a replicant that, by all rights, was indistinguishable from a human: she had empathy, memories, and functioning reproductive organs. She basically WAS human.
So this scene overwhelmingly tells me that K WASN'T the same as Rachel, and isn't her child. This scene takes place at the peak of the script where the audience is supposed to believe he is the child, about to confront his dad, so this scene is a subtle nod to the original AND a hint to the audience that he is not the kid.

also Bees have been shown to detect and function as bio-sensor for certain types of radiation. In the book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" the radiation moves around through radioactive coulds, so the bees could be deckards way of monitoring air quality and radiation levels

The giveaway would be the fact the engineered Dog drunk whiskey.

How is that a giveaway?

 

[Username]

I don't think BR 2049's bees were engineered. Each individual bee in the hive would have had to have been created since no one save Tyrell had cracked the code that would allow synthetics to breed.

Bees are an endangered species right now. In that bleak future, I don't expect they'd survive.

 

[Username]

How is that a giveaway?

You have a dog that drinks whiskey?
I don't have a dog, so i am genuinely asking.

 

[Khev]

Alcohol can be poisonous to dogs yet oddly enough it's also the antidote (or rather ethanol is) should your dog ever drink antifreeze.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Bees are an endangered species right now. In that bleak future, I don't expect they'd survive.

Endangered sure, but that doesn't mean extinct. Who knows, I always assumed the bees were real. (so many they'd have to be reproducing) and like crows says, they're indicators of radiation.

I think somehow, Deckard has created that bee-farm throughout time.

You have a dog that drinks whiskey?
I don't have a dog, so i am genuinely asking.

I've seen dogs drink whiskey, one of my family's Lab's loved beer. You would open up a can and he would be all in your ****.

 

[Username]

Alcohol can be poisonous to dogs yet oddly enough it's also the antidote (or rather ethanol is) should your dog ever drink antifreeze.

It's not a stretch to imagine a synthetic dog being engineered to be able to exist on meagre rations, and being able to extract sustenance from any liquid containing water.
But it's just an idea.

 

[crows]

I don't think BR 2049's bees were engineered. Each individual bee in the hive would have had to have been created since no one save Tyrell had cracked the code that would allow synthetics to breed.

In the book the insects were the first to die off after the war but I think that 2049 took a difference stance.

the director himself says the bees are meant to give hope for the world ...... director himself proves they are real...

 

[crows]

Endangered sure, but that doesn't mean extinct. Who knows, I always assumed the bees were real. (so many they'd have to be reproducing) and like crows says, they're indicators of radiation.

I think somehow, Deckard has created that bee-farm throughout time.



I've seen dogs drink whiskey, one of my family's Lab's loved beer. You would open up a can and he would be all in your ****.

i guess robotic dogs exist in our world too

 

[Khev]

the director himself says the bees are meant to give hope for the world ...... director himself proves they are real...

Careful quoting the director. What if he comes out and says that in his mind Joi has no soul? I prefer to just discuss what's on screen based on our own interpretations.

 

[crows]

Careful quoting the director. What if he comes out and says that in his mind Joi has no soul? I prefer to just discuss what's on screen based on our own interpretations.

he better not do that!
no! not my joi!!! I would probably have to quit the board in shame

 

[Khev]

 

[greygoose]

To me the bees are real and it plays on the whole real vs 'not' real theme with K throughout the movie. The tree, Joi, the horse, the bees, the dog...

 

[crows]

the bees can be fake but it would mean they learned to give offspring as well, or were design to. Giving another nod to BIO machines giving birth

 

[snoop101]

The bees are real. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

 

[crows]

The bees are real. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

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