Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017) *SPOILERS*

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Re: Harrison Ford to star in Blade Runner sequel: It's official

Will Shia LaBeouf play his son?

Cool news but I never could get into Blade Runner...not as a kid or an adult...
 
Re: Harrison Ford to star in Blade Runner sequel: It's official

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Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

It'll be worth it if this means 1/6 figs from the first movie.
The licensing rights are very tricky, apparently. Very few licensed Blade Runner products out there, and even then, they seem to have been efforts to bypass licensing restrictions by including collectibles with DVDs.
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

Thanks for the info, maz. :duff I didn't know there were so many difficulties with the license. I'm expecting the worst, hoping for the best.
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

Why do they take so long to make some of these sequels? Would have worked years ago, but now so much time has passed.

Ford mustn't be able to get any other work other than reprising characters of the past.


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Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

They didnt dare, care.
Directors, writers or actors and studios.
I guess its a mashup of being has been, money grabbing, fanboys, no shame...
They will squeeze everything they have as long as it reassure the bankers at the studios.
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

Well I can't wait for the geriatric Terminator versus geriatric Replicant arguments to start :lol
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

I just don't see the need for a Blade Runner sequel, I felt that the ideas and topics in the movie were nicely explored... no need to go back.
But who knows, they might surprise us.
And yes, I too wonder which version will be deemed officially canon for the sequel.
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

Why do they take so long to make some of these sequels? Would have worked years ago, but now so much time has passed.

Ford mustn't be able to get any other work other than reprising characters of the past.


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It cost $28 million to make and only made $34 million. Plus, this, from wikipedia:

Critical reception[edit]
Film critics were polarized as some felt the story had taken a back seat to special effects and that it was not the action/adventure the studio had advertised. Others acclaimed its complexity and predicted it would stand the test of time.[85]

In the United States, a general criticism was its slow pacing that detracts from other strengths;[86] Sheila Benson from the Los Angeles Times called it "Blade Crawler", while Pat Berman in The State and Columbia Record described it as "science fiction pornography".[87] Pauline Kael noted that with its "extraordinary" congested-megalopolis sets, Blade Runner "has its own look, and a visionary sci-fi movie that has its own look can't be ignored – it has its place in film history" but "hasn't been thought out in human terms".[88] Roger Ebert praised the visuals of both the original Blade Runner and the Director's Cut versions and recommended it for that reason; however, he found the human story clichéd and a little thin.[34] In 2007, upon release of The Final Cut, Ebert somewhat revised his original opinion of the film and added it to his list of Great Movies, while noting, "I have been assured that my problems in the past with Blade Runner represent a failure of my own taste and imagination, but if the film was perfect, why has Sir Ridley continued to tinker with it?"[89] Blade Runner holds a 91% rating on Rotten Tomatoes with an average score of 8.4 out of 10 from 96 reviews.[90] The site's main consensus reads "Misunderstood when it first hit theaters, the influence of Ridley Scott's mysterious, neo-noir Blade Runner has deepened with time. A visually remarkable, achingly human sci-fi masterpiece."[90]
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

The film was ahead of its time, I love it. The first time I watched it is one of those moments I don't want to forget.

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It has to be a nightmare to try to come up with a good story for the sequel. It can be done, but honestly... I don't have much faith in this movie
 
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Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

The film was ahead of its time
If so, then it's only because people couldn't wrap their head around the idea that a science fiction movie could be legitimately good drama, or can tell an thought provoking story about the nature of being, and should be evaluated on those terms back in '82. But then, I think Alien (another Scott movie) already demonstrated that this kind of movie could give you something more than the typical Roger Corman release, so I'm not sure if that was an excuse. If this was really marketed as an action/adventure movie, then that's probably the bigger culprit here. If you're going in with certain expectations and they can't hope to be met, then you are more likely to be disappointed with the outcome.
 
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If so, then it's only because people couldn't wrap their head around the idea that a science fiction movie could be legitimately good drama, or can tell an thought provoking story about the nature of being, and should be evaluated on those terms back in '82.

I think its ahead of its time because it touches themes that became more relevant with time and other themes that are universal, like who we are and where we come from. It influenced a lot of what came after

Many movies that came after have similar themes but they didn't impact me as much as Blade Runner, its the kind of movie that makes you think and I love that.

If you're going in with certain expectations and they can't hope to be met, then you are more likely to be disappointed with the outcome.

I agree, the marketing was wrong, betraying people's expectations will give you bad results
 
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I think its ahead of its time because it touches themes that became more relevant with time and other themes that are universal, like who we are and where we come from.
I don't know if we see more of that now than we used to, thinking of 2001, Ingmar Bergman's catalog, films from the French New Wave, Kirosawa's Ikiru, etc.
 
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"Ahead of its time" seems to mean different things to different people.

One thing that is so awesome about Cameron's ALIENS, even today, is that he had the foresight to give every single video monitor a 16:9 aspect ratio, from the video phones that Ripley would use at Gateway Station to the monitors that Gorman would use to track the marines. Cameron looked at what was on the horizon and had those screens all custom built in an attempt to "future proof" the movie, even though 4:3 would still be the default aspect ratio for more than a decade after his film was released.

Now here we all are with 16:9 computer and TV screens all over the world and ALIENS matches right up.
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

That's like saying that TRON was ahead of its time. :lol

If so, then it's only because people couldn't wrap their head around the idea.
Exactly.
These films weren't special from sci-fi standpoint, such ideas has been explored via literature long before we were born.
It's just that cinema is a much bigger media so naturally a big chunk of its audience wouldn't understand ****.
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

That's like saying that TRON was ahead of its time. :lol

Yes, recognizing the writing on the wall and putting it in a science fiction film isn't really something being ahead of its time, IMO. When I think of a film being "ahead of its time" it's just usually movies that basically pioneered some new technique that no one else was doing, but that doesn't generate immediate copycats but rather features things that aren't adopted until much later.

Like let's say HFR for instance. Most people hate it right now, and no one except Peter Jackson is doing it (until Avatar 2 comes out anyway) even though anyone can. Now if in 10 years everyone shoots and projects films in 48 fps, then I'd say The Hobbit flims were ahead of their time. Superman The Movie was ahead of it's time because no one would make another superhero movie with A-list actors for over a decade, and even then it wasn't really until the last 10-15 years that it really became the norm.
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

Ishtar was ahead of its time. Who knew that ridiculously overpriced vanity projects with no real substantive value would later be held in high regard (see: Lord of the Rings/Hobbit movies)?
 
Re: Denis Villeneuve to direct new Blade Runner film

Ishtar was ahead of its time. Who knew that ridiculously overpriced vanity projects with no real substantive value would later be held in high regard (see: Lord of the Rings/Hobbit movies)?

True. True. And who knows, maybe one day the goal of films will be to make the most awful and inept movies imaginable and everyone will be talking about how "A History of Violence" was way ahead of its time.
 
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