Boba fett premium format

[Darth Loki]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Irish...since I'm Irish...I'll be calm...two pissed off Irish people is not a good thing. If it's true that the cost of producing this item with ABS plastic could have saved us $50-100 dollars, and the savings are not passed on to us, I will admit I would be irritated. The truth is I cannot, and nobody else on this board, can say what Sideshow's production budget was for this piece. The piece is amazing whether it's plastic or not. The detail is amazing and to Sideshow's credit they created a character that's different than any other PF to date. I agree that they should have notified people sooner. I would rather have a plastic Boba than no Boba at all. I've had to return 2 pieces recently made out of polystone so it's nice I don't have to worry about the condition of this piece with all the small parts. I'm sure Sideshow learned a great deal about manufacturing a piece that incorporated small armor parts and clothing. Look on the brightside...Sideshow should be in a muchbetter position to design Stormtroopers, Imperial Guards, Droids, etc after working out the kinks with Boba.

I agree with almost everything you have to say except the end. I'm worried that our great looking Stormies and Clones and Droids will now be plastic.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

It's may be a cheaper material but that doesn't mean the quality is cheap. Did ya not think about that Mr. Know It All. I didn't apologize. Answer me this Boy Genius if they had used Poly and it had broke when it got to you. Then when you get your replacement that's broken too because the polys too thin. Would you be pissed? Also for extra credit Smarty Pants would you have known the difference between the two based on the pics if they hadn't said anything?

I have received 3 Dark Lord Saurons, none of which were broken. And that item took about 18 months longer to be released solely because of packaging issues. As a matter of fact, I haven't received one broken polystone statue from Sideshow. What makes you think this would be any different? Just because SS tried to justify the use of a cheaper material for that reason? If you believed that one, I've got a bridge for sale.

As for the use of materials boy wonder, if you look at every SS item, the materials used are always listed. But Boba's description has this information absent. Curious. Whether it was discovered here, the SS site, or another place, I'm sure the current buzz about SS using cheap plastic would have came out. After all, it wasn't a trade secret, was it? Or maybe it was a SS plan to wait until now to spring it on their loyal collectors? Guess we'll never know.

As long as you admitted in your earlier post there is a difference in quality between polystone and the crap plastic used for Boba, this forum knows you're just trying to tread water at this point. Here's a tip...hold your nose when the water rises....you're going under. SLAM DUNK!

 

[DetroitSportsFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Remember to keep perspective until the thing's in hand.

Remember the last PF?

"OMG WHAT A HORRENDOUS LAZY EYE WHAT'S SS'S PROBLEM??!?!?111/!?"

And then:

"Ahhhhhhh."

I think everyone who was happy with the helmet sculpt should at least see how it turns out before cancelling now. I'd take a plastic Fett with correct helmet (coughmedicomcough) over a polystone one that looks "off."

Let's use a more realistic photo comparison. You know, one where you can actually see the statue in the light, and from the same angle?

They look the same to me.

 

[Kookie]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I agree with almost everything you have to say except the end. I'm worried that our great looking Stormies and Clones and Droids will now be plastic.

I myself would love a polystone stormtrooper. Did the stormtroopers in the movie wear metal armor?

My concern is that ABS plastic may be the only option because of the manufacturing process. This may be the reason we haven't seen that figure in the 12" or PF line and they're trying to figure it out.

At this point as long as the piece feels solid and heavy to the touch and looks great I can live with it. I've been so excited for this piece I don't want to not like it because of the plastic.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Not necessary. How the product looks is immaterial (no pun intended) to the crux of this debate, which is simple: SSC used much cheaper materials to make the production piece saving them untold amounts of $$$ without lowering the price at all for the consumer who pre-ordered what they believed would be a PF item made of comparable materials to others in the line at the same pricepoint. And that, to many of us, is plain WRONG.

Here here! That's what we're talking about. Well put. :chew

 

[El Roranous]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Let's use a more realistic photo comparison. You know, one where you can actually see the statue in the light, and from the same angle?

They look the same to me.

Poor Frodo. I have a feeling we will not see the end of him in debates anytime soon.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I myself would love a polystone stormtrooper. Did the stormtroopers in the movie wear metal armor?

My concern is that ABS plastic may be the only option because of the manufacturing process. This may be the reason we haven't seen that figure in the 12" or PF line and they're trying to figure it out.

At this point as long as the piece feels solid and heavy to the touch and looks great I can live with it. I've been so excited for this piece I don't want to not like it because of the plastic.

Actually the best armor to use against a phaser or blaster is plastic. Something to do with the molecules bonding to make plastic stronger than metal armor against that type of weapon.
JEEZ!!! Are we losing touch with reality? These are fantasy characters but the cost of each is VERY real. I for one like to get what I pay for.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

They are both made out of plastic, which one do you like more?

This photo makes me question the coloring more than the material, it's irrelevant what an item is made of so long as it meets its purpose and is colored and textured, etc., correctly.

 

[carbo-fation]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Maybe it's just me, but the Medi Boba looks a lot better!

 

[MaulFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Based on SSC photos, I would say their Boba looks like a PT Boba Fett, and Medi Boba looks like OT, and I say that because in the OT, most things were dull and worn out because it was "dark times" where the PT was full of vibrant colors and brand new looking things, and that's what the PF Fett is doing for me, he's looking brand new, despite the painted wear on his armor, he could be the Fett for the new TV series.

 

[IrishJedi]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Actually, Medi Fett is based on ESB whereas the SSC PF Fett is based on the ROTJ scheme. That's the main difference. The ESB Fett was always more gray and the ROTJ Fett more green and with more color on the armor pieces.

 

[The Josh]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

This is actually pretty simple. The decision to use ABS surely saved SSC a lot of $$$ on the production cost of this piece. For that to happen without any affect on the final price is what rightfully has many of us fuming.

Please tell me how you know it saved them money. How long ago did since this was announced to the shipping date? A long time who knows the cost in the budget as Kookie mentioned Fett cost and then all this switching. You don't know, I don't know, The board doesn't know.

I have received 3 Dark Lord Saurons, none of which were broken. And that item took about 18 months longer to be released solely because of packaging issues. As a matter of fact, I haven't received one broken polystone statue from Sideshow. What makes you think this would be any different? Just because SS tried to justify the use of a cheaper material for that reason? If you believed that one, I've got a bridge for sale.

I'm not saying it would be. However, you don't know that it wouldn't either. Why play Russian Roulette? Why shouldn't I believe them? They've never given me a reason to not believe them. Maybe you're into calling people a liars but that's not my game.

As for the use of materials boy wonder, if you look at every SS item, the materials used are always listed. But Boba's description has this information absent. Curious. Whether it was discovered here, the SS site, or another place, I'm sure the current buzz about SS using cheap plastic would have came out. After all, it wasn't a trade secret, was it? Or maybe it was a SS plan to wait until now to spring it on their loyal collectors? Guess we'll never know.

They're not always listed. I guarantee that. If nobody noticed it may have or it may not have. The thing that would have been noticed was the body weight difference if there turns out to be any. Then people would have had a right to complain with nothing coming from SS at all but they did talk about the change.

As long as you admitted in your earlier post there is a difference in quality between polystone and the crap plastic used for Boba, this forum knows you're just trying to tread water at this point. Here's a tip...hold your nose when the water rises....you're going under. SLAM DUNK!

I admitted difference in price. Nothing about quality. Go back and read it again Professor. Treading water? Exactly how am I doing that. I admitted their is a price difference nothing more than that. Since you TRAVELED on that drive Oh Wise One go back to the drawing board.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I know that they're different films, my point is the SSC just looks too brand new no matter what film it is, where the Medi has a faded used looke to it's colors.

 

[LOTRFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I know that they're different films, my point is the SSC just looks too brand new no matter what film it is, where the Medi has a faded used looke to it's colors.

Indeed, and that is my contention as well. As I have said before, I am not at all surprised by the plastic armor (the body is a different story), it was used for Vader, and I am certain it will be for the Stormtroopers as well. What does concern me however is unlike the latter two, Fett's armor has color to it, and by using plastic it may come across as looking to new - you fresh from Bounty Hunter's Werehouse. Plastic is just harder to weather properly (i.e. mass production) than polystone, I do expect him to look ragged.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I don't think the PF Fett needs "weathering" it just need a certain shade of green - incubus - that looks more weathered. The photos look like a pure green fresh from the can, like when Boba first made his armor, if they went with a green that had shades of grey to it, that would have given a faded appearance.

 

[LOTRFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I don't think the PF Fett needs "weathering" it just need a certain shade of green - incubus - that looks more weathered. The photos look like a pure green fresh from the can, like when Boba first made his armor, if they went with a green that had shades of grey to it, that would have given a faded appearance.

Well I suppose my "weathering" comments extend beyond just his armor, the cloth costume beneath looks too clean. If anyone has the Lurtz PF you know how good a nicely weathered PF can look, though perhaps some careful drybrushing may in fact help Fett out.

 

[Natrix]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Indeed, and that is my contention as well. As I have said before, I am not at all surprised by the plastic armor (the body is a different story), it was used for Vader, and I am certain it will be for the Stormtroopers as well. What does concern me however is unlike the latter two, Fett's armor has color to it, and by using plastic it may come across as looking to new - you fresh from Bounty Hunter's Werehouse. Plastic is just harder to weather properly (i.e. mass production) than polystone, I do expect him to look ragged.

According to the production blog, only Vaders outer helmet is plastic the rest is polystone.

 

[LOTRFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

According to the production blog, only Vaders outer helmet is plastic the rest is polystone.

That could be, but his shinguards sure feel like plastic ... or at least to me.

Either way, the precedent was there, I am/was not shocked to hear of Fett's outer armor --- the body is my main issue.

 

[DetroitSportsFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Sgt. Taz from StatueForum got this pleasant email from Sideshow Customer Service:


Thank you for your e-mail to our Customer Service Department. Your feedback
is important to us and we appreciate that you took the time to reach us.

Our Boba Fett premium format figure is not entirely plastic. It is a mix of
polystone, different types of cloth and faux leather materials, and raw
fibers for the braided details. The armor was created with plastic materials
to maintain the metal engineered shape of the armor as it was seen in the
film and to insure durability for the collector in the years to come.

Obviously, since the armor was not cast from metal or polystone, which is
inconsistent in the final shape and has higher breakage possibilities, the
overall figure is lighter then what these heavier materials would have
resulted in.

We are not a butcher shop that charges by the pound, and therefore you
should not expect a discount. Rather you should be relieved that the lighter
weight will mean less expensive shipping for the collector. If the use of
plastic materials in this mixed medium premium format figure is an issue for
you, we suggest that you cancel your order with us immediately.


Looks like someone's getting some negative emails and cancellations at SS.

 

[carbo-fation]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

As suspected, Sideshow will NOT change the price.