hairlesswookiee said:true, but it is nice to know that your collectible is worth something. hence the reason i still dont like the "inclusive" idea too much.
But that can be said of any collectible. It is only the value that the owner (and potential buyer) of any piece place on it that have any significance (and not just on eBay either, BTW).gdb said:IMHO, these things have no real value at all except that which the indivdual collector assigns it. Me, I don't assign value based on eBay auctions. I understand others do, and that's cool, I'm not an evanglist; just offering my own POV.
Khev said:Its funny how many people (mostly on rebelscum) are concerned about there being "too many" Maul figures produced and the fact that "everyone will have one," "defeats the purpose of having an exclusive," etc.
Its like everyone has no concept of aftermarket value beyond what it'll sell for on ebay 10 minutes after it sells out and then again when it ships.
No one is looking 5 or 10 years down the road when this might be a near legendary line of figures. Something that was on sale for a whopping four days 8 years ago is certainly going to have some value, especially when it has the inherent desirability of a character like Darth Maul.
So Sideshow is building a fan base by not ostricizing collectors who missed out on Maul (and could very well give up on the whole line after missing such a character) but the figures themselves will still maintain their "collectibility" status years from now.
What makes you say something like that? Looking down the road is exactly what has some collectors concerned. Stop assuming that everyone who cares about the value of a collectible is a flipper or scalper. That assumption is just plain wrong.Khev said:No one is looking 5 or 10 years down the road when this might be a near legendary line of figures.
Something on sale for a whopping four days, in the age of the Internet, is actually pretty unlikely to increase in value at anywhere near the same rate as something that has a significantly lower ES. It is a simple supply-and-demand issue.Khev said:Something that was on sale for a whopping four days 8 years ago is certainly going to have some value, especially when it has the inherent desirability of a character like Darth Maul.
Well, anyone who gives up on the whole line after missing one character at retail isn't much a of a collector.Khev said:So Sideshow is building a fan base by not ostricizing collectors who missed out on Maul (and could very well give up on the whole line after missing such a character)
Khev said:No one is looking 5 or 10 years down the road when this might be a near legendary line of figures.
So Sideshow is building a fan base by not ostricizing collectors who missed out on Maul (and could very well give up on the whole line after missing such a character) but the figures themselves will still maintain their "collectibility" status years from now.
Common sense.RoboDad said:What makes you say something like that?
Speaking of wrong assumptions, when did I say that people who care about value are flippers or scalpers?RoboDad said:Looking down the road is exactly what has some collectors concerned. Stop assuming that everyone who cares about the value of a collectible is a flipper or scalper. That assumption is just plain wrong.
Of really? Well I'm glad you're here to tell us these things. Chewie take the professor into the back and plug him into the hyperdrive! :chewRoboDad said:Well, anyone who gives up on the whole line after missing one character at retail isn't much a of a collector.
So, you are saying it is common sense for you to assume that I'm not "looking down the road"? That is a wrong assumption.Khev said:Common sense.
Simple. By saying that I'm not looking down the road, the obvious implication is that I'm only looking at the short-term value of the piece. And the most common reason to only care about the short-term value of a piece is if you want to flip it.Khev said:Speaking of wrong assumptions, when did I say that people who care about value are flippers or scalpers?
I'm pretty sure that Hasbro's 12" figures were on sale for slightly longer than four days and they produced just a tad more figures....FlyAndFight said:Yeah tell that to those of us with our pretty much worthless Hasbro 12" Star Wars collection...
No I said you're not looking down the road if you don't think these things will retain or appreciate in value. They might not do it at the rate of a 26 minute sell out but they will appreciate.RoboDad said:So, you are saying it is common sense for you to assume that I'm not "looking down the road"?
Well then you misunderstood. Many people are behaving as if the figures don't immediately quadruple in price they won't have long term value. I'm saying that's not going to be the case. If you aren't an immediate flipper and want long term value great, you'll get that, even if its on sale for those four eternal days.RoboDad said:Simple. By saying that I'm not looking down the road, the obvious implication is that I'm only looking at the short-term value of the piece.
Khev said:Its funny how many people (mostly on rebelscum) are concerned about there being "too many" Maul figures produced and the fact that "everyone will have one," "defeats the purpose of having an exclusive," etc.
Khev said:No one is looking 5 or 10 years down the road when this might be a near legendary line of figures. Something that was on sale for a whopping four days 8 years ago is certainly going to have some value, especially when it has the inherent desirability of a character like Darth Maul.
Khev said:So Sideshow is building a fan base by not ostricizing collectors who missed out on Maul (and could very well give up on the whole line after missing such a character) but the figures themselves will still maintain their "collectibility" status years from now.
RoboDad said:Well, anyone who gives up on the whole line after missing one character at retail isn't much a of a collector.
Khev said:I'm pretty sure that Hasbro's 12" figures were on sale for slightly longer than four days and they produced just a tad more figures....
Khev said:No I said you're not looking down the road if you don't think these things will retain or appreciate in value. They might not do it at the rate of a 26 minute sell out but they will appreciate.
Khev said:Well then you misunderstood. Many people are behaving as if the figures don't immediately quadruple in price they won't have long term value. I'm saying that's not going to be the case. If you aren't an immediate flipper and want long term value great, you'll get that, even if its on sale for those four eternal days.
No prob. I'm sure I could have made my point more clear.RoboDad said:Fair enough. And I'm sorry if I read your post the wrong way.
RoboDad said:In the long run, even Maul will increase in value, but I think it will take a long time to do so, and I don't think it will ever achieve the same value as something like the Comic Con exclusive Darth Vader.
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