Buffy and Angel 12" lines on hold

[BillyBudd]

...Creating a PF Willow for example would just mean a continuation of the scoobies and would feel out of place without the rest of the gang.

That's why I seriously doubt I will buy another PF after Angel is released. I don't like the idea of displaying Willow without Giles and Xander, and we all know that Giles and Xander have essentially no chance of being made.

A PF Big Bad would be cool though...the Judge, the Master, or an Ubervamp.

 

[BDboystoys]

That's why I seriously doubt I will buy another PF after Angel is released. I don't like the idea of displaying Willow without Giles and Xander, and we all know that Giles and Xander have essentially no chance of being made.

A PF Big Bad would be cool though...the Judge, the Master, or an Ubervamp.

Exactly. I'll stop after Buffy, Angel and Spike. Buffy represents her show, and Angel represents his show. Spike was a main character entwined in both shows, so he fits perfectly.
Unless SS would be committed to making the whole scooby gang, I wouldnt buy more beyond that. (maybe Faith though)

 

[Darklord Dave]

I think there are a few characters that would make great PFs and you wouldn't need the rest of the gang. Like having 7 of 9 from Voyager...

Dark Willow
Illyria
Faith

And the monsters would be great in PF -
The Master
Adam
The Judge
Turok-han

 

[ffl1940]

I think there are a few characters that would make great PFs and you wouldn't need the rest of the gang. Like having 7 of 9 from Voyager...

Dark Willow
Illyria
Faith

And the monsters would be great in PF -
The Master
Adam
The Judge
Turok-han

I agree several of those would be cool PFs (is Turok-han from Angel? not familiar with that name), however the only monster I could see SST making in PF format is one of The Gentlemen, they're creepy, iconic in the Buffyverse and may well appeal to non Buffy fans just because they look cool. They might sell 40 Adam PFs even if he looked cool he wasn't one of the more popular big bads, and the Judge is cool, but not PF Worth IMHO, I don't think there'd be enough people willing to drop $250+ on several of these guys.

I've got LBD Buffy PF and I'm getting Spike, but I'll pass on an Angel PF, UNLESS they give him a 1/4th Smile Time puppet, that would be a super-cool accessory and it'd be the difference maker in me deciding to buy it.


Beyond Angel with Smile Time puppet Angel I could only see myself getting a Dark Willow PF.

 

[Darklord Dave]

The Turok-han are the ubervamps from Season 7 of Buffy.

But realistically with the lines winding down, the only PFs I can see following Angel are a Dark Willow and Illyria. I'll be campaigning for both.

 

[BDboystoys]

Ah the Gentlemen would be wonderful in PF form. Also it would be very fitting considering they were the of the first Buffy figures to ever come out of SS. Ending it with a PF version would be cool.
I cant believe I gotgot Illyria though! She is my most wanted above Angel.

 

[FrankenFan]

Since we have a "Season One/pre-Season One" PF Buffy, and assuming the PF line will not be very extensive, I'm most interested in seeing likenesses of and characters from the early years that would complement the original Buffy, resulting in a more well-integrated and cohesive display.

I think we're off to a good start with Spike, and, I hope we see a learner, more feral-looking Angel/Angelus (assuming he comes with two heads, like Spike). Therefore, for the first Big Bad, I'd have to go with ol' fruit punch-mouth, The Master.

And I would love to see a Willow Rosenberg; No interest in Giles or Xander.

I agree with both Dave and ff1940 that there are a number of other Big and Little Bads that would make interesting figures and take full advantage of the PF format; Certainly The Judge, Adam, and an Uber-Vamp would fill the bill, and I'd definitely get one of the Gentlemen. (Which one? Camden Toy or Doug Jones?)

And Dark Willow? Check. Chosen Buffy? Check. Anyanka? Check. Drusilla (two heads)? Check. Darla (two heads)? Check. Illyrria? Check.

"And so on and so on and scooby dooby dooby..."

 

[Ironman1188]

I'm kind of surprised by the folks preparing for PF's, or the possibility thereof, and seemingly already abandoning the hopes of 1:6, even though both dreams are fruitless as the license is apparently done.
Thanks again, Sideshow. I guess we can clear out all the emoticons except for:
:chew and :emperor

 

[FrankenFan]

I'm kind of surprised by the folks preparing for PF's, or the possibility thereof, and seemingly already abandoning the hopes of 1:6, even though both dreams are fruitless as the license is apparently done.

Exactly, possibility. Just shootin' the breeze.

This one's for you, ironman1188:

 

[thamesvalidude]

I'm not sure the Buffy magazine is the absolute voice of certainty on the demise of the Buffy/Angel line, but I am certainly not going to be holding my breath in the wait for new releases. I used to have a source that kept me pretty reliably informed about future releases, but that person is no longer associated with S/S (indeed i had no idea a Giles was in preparation) so I have absolutely no idea what is happening now.
The general feeling is that all S/S 1/6 lines except Star Wars and LOTR are going to be deliberately neglected over the next couple of years.
Even so, we eventully saw a Skinner for the X-Files and a Giles for Buffy, so a very limited Wes is a distant albeit remote possibility.
i will wait for our customizers and see what they can come up with.
As for the PFs I cancelled the PF Buffy and Spike but have relented and re-ordered the Buffy. I will not be buying Spike or the projected Angel and I do not believe there will be any further PFs after that.
As for the blue suited Lorne, as far as I am concerned that can be inserted somewhere dark and painful.

 

[sueworld]

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As for the blue suited Lorne, as far as I am concerned that can be inserted somewhere dark and painful.

I think Lorne would quite like that!!

 

[BillyBudd]

The Gentlemen are fan favorites, but they are just random monsters of the week. The Master and the Turok Han (aka Ubervamps) are much more significant to the history of the show, so I believe they are better candidates for the PF treatment. The Judge is somewhere in between monster of the week and main season villain.

While the Master or The Judge would definitely fit in better with early versions of Buffy, Angel, and Spike, I'm not sure they would sell as well as an Ubervamp, which I personally believe would be the best choice for a PF Big Bad. The Ubervamps are interesting from an aesthetic standpoint, and I think they have wider appeal than the Master or the Judge. The Ubervamps are much simpler demons. They are vicious animals without personalities that can potentially turn people off. Let's face it, the Master and the Judge's human personality traits can strike some people as a bit lame.

That said, I don't think an Ubervamp would be wildly successful. A Dark Witch Willow would probably sell better just because it's Willow. I'm not sure about Illyria. She's the only character we've discussed that never appeared in Buffy. I have to wonder whether that may impact sales because it seems to me that there are a lot of Buffy fans who never got into Angel (but not the reverse).

 

[ffl1940]

The Gentlemen are fan favorites...

BillyBudd, the first words of your post are exactly why The Gentlemen would be the first Buffy monster PF IMHO.

I'm not saying The Gentlemen would be the best possible use of all that the PF line can offer, other Big Bads would look better, but I can't imagine many people buying an ubervamp. As someone who watch the series for seven years and has watched it twice since on DVD I couldn't remember what an ubervamp looked like, other than a general idea til I googled a picture. I'll never forget what The Gentleman look like.

 

[ffl1940]

The Gentlemen are fan favorites...

BillyBudd, the first words of your post are exactly why The Gentlemen would be the first Buffy monster PF IMHO.

I'm not saying The Gentlemen would be the best possible use of all that the PF line can offer, other Big Bads would look better, but I can't imagine many people buying an ubervamp. As someone who watch the series for seven years and has watched it twice since on DVD I couldn't remember what an ubervamp looked like, other than a general idea til I googled a picture. I'll never forget what The Gentleman look like.

 

[BillyBudd]

...As someone who watch the series for seven years and has watched it twice since on DVD I couldn't remember what an ubervamp looked like, other than a general idea til I googled a picture...

I'm surprised to hear that. The Ubervamps were featured prominently in Season 7. They were probably in half the episodes, and the final battle of the entire series was the Slayers versus the Ubervamps.

 

[Protozaius]

That is one breath-taking image.

FrankenFan, you always had some of the best banners on the Freak board (before all of this "Civil War" nonsense )... gently "suggesting" what should be in the next release in the Buffy line. It is sad indeed that the majority of them never became a reality.

I was hoping in light of line's demise, if I could ask you to run all of those banners one last time (that is IF he haven't deleted them already) and post them in this thread.

It would be much appreciated, FF!

 

[ffl1940]

I'm surprised to hear that. The Ubervamps were featured prominently in Season 7. They were probably in half the episodes, and the final battle of the entire series was the Slayers versus the Ubervamps.

Yeah, I know what you mean, but what it is, I guess, is that they just kinda looked like other versions I've seen of vampires in other films and TV shows. Plus the ubervamps were bad guys, but they weren't THE bad guy and they didn't do anything special other than they were harder to kill. On the other hand, The Gentlemen were the main antagonists in what many Buffy fans would put on their top 3 episodes list and they were truly creepy and memorable. I could see non Buffy fans seeing an Ubervamp and thinking "is that an orc?"

 

[Darklord Dave]

I'm kind of surprised by the folks preparing for PF's, or the possibility thereof, and seemingly already abandoning the hopes of 1:6

In the article in the Buffy magazine they said Giles is the last except for a Lorne variant and that the PFs will continue. Buffy magazine always gets their info directly, usually from Brant, so that's why the direction of this thread.

And very cool banner FF!

 

[Firefly Flanatic]

I'm not sure the Buffy magazine is the absolute voice of certainty on the demise of the Buffy/Angel line, but I am certainly not going to be holding my breath in the wait for new releases. I used to have a source that kept me pretty reliably informed about future releases, but that person is no longer associated with S/S (indeed i had no idea a Giles was in preparation) so I have absolutely no idea what is happening now.
The general feeling is that all S/S 1/6 lines except Star Wars and LOTR are going to be deliberately neglected over the next couple of years.
Even so, we eventully saw a Skinner for the X-Files and a Giles for Buffy, so a very limited Wes is a distant albeit remote possibility.
i will wait for our customizers and see what they can come up with.
As for the PFs I cancelled the PF Buffy and Spike but have relented and re-ordered the Buffy. I will not be buying Spike or the projected Angel and I do not believe there will be any further PFs after that.
As for the blue suited Lorne, as far as I am concerned that can be inserted somewhere dark and painful.

I also had someone who was giving me early news on what the upcoming releases were. He told me about Vamp Buffy and Darla, the Angel line being announced and what figures were coming for that and Giles. He was never wrong. So I was soon expecting to hear about the other four he told me about. I'm not going to say what they were going to be because I'm hopeful that the line truly is just on hiatus for awhile and why upset everyone if it is indeed over. If we aren't going to get these figures I wish I hadn't already known we were supposed to.

 

[Protozaius]

I also had someone who was giving me early news on what the upcoming releases were. He told me about Vamp Buffy and Darla, the Angel line being announced and what figures were coming for that and Giles. He was never wrong. So I was soon expecting to hear about the other four he told me about. I'm not going to say what they were going to be because I'm hopeful that the line truly is just on hiatus for awhile and why upset everyone if it is indeed over. If we aren't going to get these figures I wish I hadn't already known we were supposed to.

The Lost Four???

I read awhile back in the Buffy magazine that Sideshow was exploring clothing options for Illyria. Was she one of those four?

Perhaps none of them ever went far enough in the production pipeline to be released. But perhaps there is still hope that the Angel line (not Buffy) is in fact on hiatus.