Captain Action basic figure set review

[teemu]

12" dolls with bobble heads??? I really like the comic costumes but whats with the big mask heads? the prototypes looked GREAT!

I pre-ordered these,but I think I am going to really pick and choose after seeing these mask/heads...hopefully in person these look much better

I don't see this selling well

 

[toylion]

Will try to pick up the costume set from Toy R Us as those won't be coming with those 'Human Head', and will be cheaper.

 

[Michael Crawford]

Yea, they'll only be $20 instead of $30...but I like the belt pouches for Cap as well as the two shields. I think the deluxe Cap is still worth it even though the Stevie head is pretty weak.

 

[toylion]

Yea, they'll only be $20 instead of $30...but I like the belt pouches for Cap as well as the two shields. I think the deluxe Cap is still worth it even though the Stevie head is pretty weak.

What about the Hawkeye pieces? Do they come in both TRU and Exclusive sets?

 

[teemu]

What about the Hawkeye pieces? Do they come in both TRU and Exclusive sets?

The Toys r us sets don't get the Hawkeye pieces

If you want to complete Hawkeye,you must buy the deluxe $30 sets that are sold at comic shops and internet retailers

I was going to get all the sets,but after the reviews,I am not so sure

 

[toylion]

The Toys r us sets don't get the Hawkeye pieces

If you want to complete Hawkeye,you must buy the deluxe $30 sets that are sold at comic shops and internet retailers

I was going to get all the sets,but after the reviews,I am not so sure

OK, I see. Thought just the Peter Parker Mask, web shooters and belt for Spiderman, the Steve Rodger mask, triangle shield and pouches for Capt. America were the exclusive pieces. Thanks.

 

[siquisiri]

When do they expext these at toys r us??

 

[Collector47]

Yea, they'll only be $20 instead of $30...but I like the belt pouches for Cap as well as the two shields. I think the deluxe Cap is still worth it even though the Stevie head is pretty weak.

Mike any chance you could share pics showing the back of those outfits? So much as been said about the Velcro, but I haven't seen any shots to judge how it looks with Cap wearing it. Also do the masks cover everything in the back and side of Cap's head? I didn't see any profile pics. Thanks in advance!

 

[Michael Crawford]

The pic of Cap's mask shows the side of his head - the human masks are the same, with ears and backs.

I'll see about adding a shot of the back - it's pretty straightforward though. Velcro strip down the center. Fairly thin so it doesn't stick out. Not much else to see.

 

[Collector47]

Thanks Mike! Very much appreciated.

 

[Ironman1188]

I just hope this version doesn't get bogged down with tons of delays like the Playing Mantis line did. They've already delayed this from a 2011 Fall release and we're still waiting now. I also believe the price points are a mistake. $35.00 for a costume set alone is too much. It's over packaged to try and make seem like its more than what it is. It's just an outfit with a few plastic/rubber accessories. They should have packaged them like the vintage lines. Now that would have been cool.

The line was delayed to fix certain problems prior to release. They were very public in addressing that. They stated when they delayed from fall 2011 that the release would be mid to late March, so , yes we're waiting, but they are not late at this point.
The $35 deluxe outfit price includes the Hawkeye pieces. General uniforms, sans extra hero, won't be that price.
Packaging them like the vintage lines is what Playing Mantis did and something I believe they are trying to be seperate from.
This style is very reminiscent of the classic look though.
Final thought, if you're a Cap fan, don't judge them by someone else'e review be it pro or con. Buy at least one and judge it in your own hands.

 

[teemu]

My only complaint for these are the oversized masks that make them look like goofy bobbleheads on a 12" body

 

[Collector47]

The line was delayed to fix certain problems prior to release. They were very public in addressing that. They stated when they delayed from fall 2011 that the release would be mid to late March, so , yes we're waiting, but they are not late at this point.
The $35 deluxe outfit price includes the Hawkeye pieces. General uniforms, sans extra hero, won't be that price.
Packaging them like the vintage lines is what Playing Mantis did and something I believe they are trying to be seperate from.
This style is very reminiscent of the classic look though.
Final thought, if you're a Cap fan, don't judge them by someone else'e review be it pro or con. Buy at least one and judge it in your own hands.

What I look for in reviews is more informational from photographs than the opinion offered. With regards to this line, my early impressions are mixed. Ill-fitting costumes (via the shortened sleeves) and a questionable mold/paint job on the deluxe costume sets is a bit of an eye opener for a company that delayed it's product to fix quality issues. When I purchase Hot Toys figures I have an expectation. And I've yet to be disappointed with the money invested. This is a new company. No it's not Hot Toys level by even a sniff. But they are asking me to spend $30 plus for a stand alone costume. I should be getting something for my money at that price point. A poorly fitting costume should not be on the radar at this price point. So I do have reserves. I won't just shell out money for something that my eyes assess as issues in quality. Now Spider-man looks fairly decent. I think he hits his marks pretty well. But the deluxe Captain America set has too many issues with it. I also need to see the Captain Action figure up close at TRU. Perhaps what this reviewer got was a sample from a bad batch. I'm still interested. But I would like to see more detailed pictures than what we have so far.

 

[Collector47]

I'm not a big fan of Hot Toys being compared against lower quality lines for price justification. Hot Toys these days is a stand alone industry. There is so much more that goes into the design and development of a Hot Toys figure compared to that of a $40.00 figure. And I think some companies use this comparison as a manipulation to say, "Our price tag might seem excessive, but we're cheap compared to a Hot Toys figure." It's not comparing apples to apples. So in my eyes, it has no merit. At best, Captain Action might compare to a 13 inch DC Direct figure. But that's about as far as they go.

 

[teemu]

I'm not a big fan of Hot Toys being compared against lower quality lines for price justification. Hot Toys these days is a stand alone industry. There is so much more that goes into the design and development of a Hot Toys figure compared to that of a $40.00 figure. And I think some companies use this comparison as a manipulation to say, "Our price tag might seem excessive, but we're cheap compared to a Hot Toys figure." It's not comparing apples to apples. So in my eyes, it has no merit. At best, Captain Action might compare to a 13 inch DC Direct figure. But that's about as far as they go.

I am not even sure if you can compare CA to even the 13" DC which look much better and I am a Marvel fan first...

from prototype (smaller properly scaled head/mask) then to actual product (bigger Mask which makes the head out of proportion in scale).

I guess I'll wait to really judge in person,but from looking at the prototypes to actual product,I am little dissapointed in those Masks.

I didn't realize that CA Masks were supposed to be goofy looking

 

[Collector47]

I am not even sure if you can compare CA to even the 13" DC which look much better and I am a Marvel fan first...

from prototype (smaller properly scaled head/mask) then to actual product (bigger Mask which makes the head out of proportion in scale).

I guess I'll wait to really judge in person,but from looking at the prototypes to actual product,I am little dissapointed in those Masks.

I didn't realize that CA Masks were supposed to be goofy looking

Actually the vintage ones are not goofy looking. Even the Playing Mantis editions looked good. The vintage ones were especially tight. I'm not sure where MC got the idea they look ridiculous. It's an old school look, but the proportions are right. After reading that review, I was kind of under the impression he was trying too hard to justify the figure because it was given to him (costumes too). I'm all for a straight opinion. Either it's good or it isn't. And for this being a new line, it has a lot of basic problems straight out of the gate. Whatever your price point, you should always make a quality product and take pride in how it looks. Poor fitting costumes and badly proportioned masks don't provide me with a lot of confidence in this line. All formats have done alot to make a better quality figure through the years. And the ones that fail to follow, pay dearly for it. This line has quality issues. PERIOD. Trying to hide behind Ideal and claim their product looked ridiculous is a cop out.

 

[Michael Crawford]

Sorry, but the vintage line is goofy looking - you can tell yourself they didn't, but it's my opinion that your nostalgia is getting the better of you. This was Batman, one of my favorites:

Maybe you don't think that Batman mask is goofy, but I do.

 

[teemu]

Actually the vintage ones are not goofy looking. Even the Playing Mantis editions looked good. The vintage ones were especially tight. I'm not sure where MC got the idea they look ridiculous. It's an old school look, but the proportions are right. After reading that review, I was kind of under the impression he was trying too hard to justify the figure because it was given to him (costumes too). I'm all for a straight opinion. Either it's good or it isn't. And for this being a new line, it has a lot of basic problems straight out of the gate. Whatever your price point, you should always make a quality product and take pride in how it looks. Poor fitting costumes and badly proportioned masks don't provide me with a lot of confidence in this line. All formats have done alot to make a better quality figure through the years. And the ones that fail to follow, pay dearly for it. This line has quality issues. PERIOD. Trying to hide behind Ideal and claim their product looked ridiculous is a cop out.

I agree

While I don't hate them.I actually voiced my opinion to Captain Action about the oversized bobble head masks and they got instantly defensive and said I was the only one who took notice and then to wait to really judge when I have these in hand...I already bought mine and WAS going to buy all 6 sets plus bodies,but now I think I am only going to get Thor and Iron Man and stop there,unless they do Dr.Doom

The prototypes looked GREAT! the actual product doesn't look as good.I am tired of companies showing a prototype and giving us something else

 

[toylion]

Sorry but this is goofy.

This is looks a lot better and better scale even though it's 47 years old.

 

[Collector47]

Sorry but this is goofy.

This is looks a lot better and better scale even though it's 47 years old.

Exactly... These are classics as well.

These are vintage figures. I don't see proportion issues. Are they toy like? Well yeah...
But they're also presentable as a collection without you having to make excuses for them. People can see that. The design can be simplistic, which is where the idea of "charm" comes into play. But people can also see the craft of how it was made and appreciate it's uniqueness in how it was delivered. Where do you put this new Steve Rogers in that lot? Before you see the charm, you see mistakes in manufacturing. It's sloppy in execution. And it's obvious the makers did not put enough thought into the process. Sorry. He doesn't fit. Even if you want him to Mike... At the end of the day, the consumer will voice an opinion on this. You can COUNT on that. Nobody asks a consumer to spend close to $80.00 for a deluxe outfit and figure and then say, "Well they're suppose to look goofy." I would go back and reconsider your rationale there Mike. The vintage CA collectors (whom this is aimed at) are not as idiotic as you paint them out to be. And the novelty of redoing Captain Action has long since pass. Collectors expect value for their dollar. That Steve Rogers sample wouldn't even pass for a prototype. Speaking of which, Round 2's "prototype" was a photo-shopped mock up that read much better than this.

Now Spider-man is done pretty well. I think the outfit works in the spirit of the old line. I wouldn't debate that point in the least. And by the way, he doesn't look goofy here either. But I don't know if that one outfit and yet another Captain Action figure to buy can sustain Round 2 through the early growing stages. One point they have overlooked is how many Captain Action figures are out there. I suspect people will try and put these on their existing figures first. Yes, Round 2 made it so you can't use the glove features on the old ones. But people do know how to customize. It just depends on how that initial impression plays out. Without a doubt the Steve Rogers/Capt America set is a big liability. We'll see how much that and the desire for collectors to buy another base figure impacts those sales. Without question it was going to be an uphill battle under the best of conditions. But they've made it hard on themselves early. And worse, they attack feedback (as Teemu mentioned) when it is less than stellar. Huge mistake. You listen to all aspects of consumer feedback. Walk around acting like you've got a thin skin with the only game in town and you'll be playing alone Round 2.