I'd rather drink kerosene and piss on a fire than listen to anything Kevin Smith has to say about anything.
And I thought that slob promised to retire a few years ago anyway.:
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Go to 44 minute mark for Kevin Smith's ranking for CW and then enjoy his not so veiled dig at WB/DC at the 47 minute mark.
But just watch after that anyways just to see the 2 gay dudes fight over IM3 Mandarin.
Well DC keeps their TV and movies separate so I'm sure he feels safe, or he just doesn't care -which tends to happen when you smoke that much weed in your lifetime.
GeneralZodLives
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I don't get the hate for Kevin Smith. Whether or not you like his films, he represents comic book fans in his industry because he is fan and has been very vocal about it. He knows more about the characters and stories than most people involved in writing/directing these films because he grew up loving them--just like most of us. He was the guy Warner Bros. chose to host the big DC movie special. They didn't pick Snyder, the director of BvS and the man DC has trusted with getting their biggest icons on the screen. Why? My best guess is because people know Kevin Smith, know he's a fan, and WB was hoping his support of BvS would calm down the nerds who weren't happy with how BvS looked from the crappy trailers. No one who isn't a friend of Snyder knows who Snyder is. I've seen all his films and couldn't pick him out of a line-up. He has zero pull for ratings. Plus, I don't think he comes off as really understanding the characters he's given when he talks about them.
Yup, I really don't see the problem with Smith. I mean, I don't like his movies that much, and most of his comic stuff are bollocks, but it's not like he's a huge sellout, or something. Unlike a certain other guy, who went from "I don't really find most comics interesting" to "we've got the Legends, and all they have are flavors of the week". I just can't quite put my finger on his name though...
jye4ever
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Yeah i'm not a KS hater either, Clerks 1 came along during a difficult time in my life in 1995 and it delivered exactly what I needed and for that I will always be grateful and appreciative of that movie and it still holds up very well.
He's just being honest about his feelings towards MCU/WB world building that's all, he's entitled to his opinion like everyone else.
He's just being honest about his feelings towards MCU/WB world building that's all, he's entitled to his opinion like everyone else.
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I think it takes a big set to get paid to chearlead movies then when the first main big one gets released be honest enough not to like it. He could have been singing the praises of BvS till he died, but he chose to say how he really felt, that's his opinion. Can't fault him for that.
As he said himself, "I'm a press whore". Remember the scene in Age of Failtron where Barton talks about how him fightin' an army of robots on a floatin' city makes no sense? Tryin' too hard is never good. Yet Smith made a career out of it.
Comic book fans has Mark Hamill to represent them, there's no need for Silent Bob.
So that clever self-awareness didn't get him out of jail as far as RIDDICK is concerned.
Naw I still like Kevin Smith.
Naw I still like Kevin Smith.
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But this is a guy DC chose to hype their movies. So they obviously had no problem with his press whoring.
jye4ever
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Man just seeing that 1990 Captain America reminded me just how non existent Marvel's foot print was in Hollywood.
The best thing Marvel had going for them back then was Bill Bixby as "David Banner" and that was it and that was 1978!
He was so charismatic and charming, he was the Christopher Reeve version on TV, and of course Ferrigno.
But that was it for them.
Now, they're ontop of the world.
**** You Avatar, no one cares about you!
The best thing Marvel had going for them back then was Bill Bixby as "David Banner" and that was it and that was 1978!
He was so charismatic and charming, he was the Christopher Reeve version on TV, and of course Ferrigno.
But that was it for them.
Now, they're ontop of the world.
**** You Avatar, no one cares about you!
Man just seeing that 1990 Captain America reminded me just how non existent Marvel's foot print was in Hollywood.
The best thing Marvel had going for them back then was Bill Bixby as "David Banner" and that was it and that was 1978!
He was so charismatic and charming, he was the Christopher Reeve version on TV, and of course Ferrigno.
But that was it for them.
Now, they're ontop of the world.
**** You Avatar, no one cares about you!
STAR WARS says:
jye4ever
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Let me rephrase that....
Disney is ontop of the world!
But....
CW > TFA
I actually agree 100% with what KS said about CW, his reason for it being the best MCU movie mirrors my feelings.
May I ask a question, why doesn't SSF have a YT movie program?
Us slobs would be perfect for that.
You know, like those Collider, Shmoes, Screenjunkies, Double Toasted shows?
Disney is ontop of the world!
But....
CW > TFA
I actually agree 100% with what KS said about CW, his reason for it being the best MCU movie mirrors my feelings.
May I ask a question, why doesn't SSF have a YT movie program?
Us slobs would be perfect for that.
You know, like those Collider, Shmoes, Screenjunkies, Double Toasted shows?
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Agreed though TFA is still a great period adventure serial that nicely establishes Cap's origin.
I did watch the Kevin Smith clip and he did echo something I was thinking when rewatching The First Avenger the other day. And that is that Marvel somehow, actually delivered on the promise and potential of those first few MCU films. I *do* remember when Iron Man came out and Nick Fury appeared at the end how we were all, "can you imagine what it will be like if they make movies of all these heroes and put them in the same universe?" And then in The First Avenger when Bucky was strapped to that table and picks up the shield and gun on the train, "I'm turning into you," etc., and people were all, "wow they seem to be hinting at the Winter Soldier/Bucky Cap storyline I wonder how that will play out," and now HERE...WE...ARE.
It's surreal. Not that Marvel actually funded all these movies because that's the easy part but that every major character was well cast, well established, and then had varying levels of home run after home run for the stories that really counted. I mean if they did something stupid and cast an idiot to play Steve Rogers or had a Brett Ratner or Steve Sommers blow one of those early Phase I films (with TIH being Marvel's one mulligan) then the whole thing could have crumbled before it began. Again, it's just surreal. That airport fight where there all *12* heroes in live-action, in full costume, broad daylight and I like *EVERY* actor and the way everyone's abilities are portrayed on screen. As we've seen in decades past it's hard enough to just get *one* of these characters right, let alone twelve! And that's not counting GotG, Hulk, Thor, Dr. Strange, etc. We're watching history unfold before our eyes here, not too far off from when Stan Lee and Jack Kirby brought half the comic universe to life as we know it back in 1963.
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Wait.. are you guys talking about Captain America: Civil War being better than The Force Awakens (TFA) or The First Avenger (TFA)? lol
The Clown Prince of Crime
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It makes no difference, new Capt beats both of those movies with his bare hands.
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Agreed...insert and TFA you want and CW wins.
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The First Avenger, The Force Awakens, Clone Wars, Civil War. Hopefully Star Wars 8 is called Beneath Vader's Shadow to really confuse things.
Agreed though TFA is still a great period adventure serial that nicely establishes Cap's origin.
I did watch the Kevin Smith clip and he did echo something I was thinking when rewatching The First Avenger the other day. And that is that Marvel somehow, actually delivered on the promise and potential of those first few MCU films. I *do* remember when Iron Man came out and Nick Fury appeared at the end how we were all, "can you imagine what it will be like if they make movies of all these heroes and put them in the same universe?" And then in The First Avenger when Bucky was strapped to that table and picks up the shield and gun on the train, "I'm turning into you," etc., and people were all, "wow they seem to be hinting at the Winter Soldier/Bucky Cap storyline I wonder how that will play out," and now HERE...WE...ARE.
It's surreal. Not that Marvel actually funded all these movies because that's the easy part but that every major character was well cast, well established, and then had varying levels of home run after home run for the stories that really counted. I mean if they did something stupid and cast an idiot to play Steve Rogers or had a Brett Ratner or Steve Sommers blow one of those early Phase I films (with TIH being Marvel's one mulligan) then the whole thing could have crumbled before it began. Again, it's just surreal. That airport fight where there all *12* heroes in live-action, in full costume, broad daylight and I like *EVERY* actor and the way everyone's abilities are portrayed on screen. As we've seen in decades past it's hard enough to just get *one* of these characters right, let alone twelve! And that's not counting GotG, Hulk, Thor, Dr. Strange, etc. We're watching history unfold before our eyes here, not too far off from when Stan Lee and Jack Kirby brought half the comic universe to life as we know it back in 1963.
Gonna be even more wild when there's 70 characters
Gonna be even more wild when there's 70 characters
I was just thinking of that. I read someone say "Civil War felt organic and streamlined with 12 characters, BvS felt bloated with THREE." Makes me wonder if DC will somehow mishandle six heroes in Justice League while the Russos nail 70 at once.
Hopefully WW is up to date on her emails when Darkseid comes calling!
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