Caylee Anthony's body found?!?!

[Shropt]

See this is the problem. Her daughter was dead in a plastic bag in a swamp and she went to clubs. She isn't like the vast majority of people in the world. She clearly doesn't have a conscience so the days she spends in a cell will consist of her remorseful that she was caught, or that she had a child to begin with.
This woman clearly loves living, because she was living it up pretty good. Take away the one thing she truly loves: Her life.

Most people like to think that everyone is basically the same, meaning good intentioned, but its really not the case. There is a percentage of the public, that does not have the ability to feel things like compassion or remorse, or anything beyond their own interests. Sometimes we hear statements like "Anyone could do that under the right circumstances" and thats just not true. There are thousands of people in horrible situations that would never dream of harming their child.

Please don't elevate this woman to the same level of humanity that most of us live on. Define her by what she is: Human garbage.

Wow, so eloquently put. Quoted for truth!!

 

[Jen]

See this is the problem. Her daughter was dead in a plastic bag in a swamp and she went to clubs. She isn't like the vast majority of people in the world. She clearly doesn't have a conscience so the days she spends in a cell will consist of her remorseful that she was caught, or that she had a child to begin with.
This woman clearly loves living, because she was living it up pretty good. Take away the one thing she truly loves: Her life.

Most people like to think that everyone is basically the same, meaning good intentioned, but its really not the case. There is a percentage of the public, that does not have the ability to feel things like compassion or remorse, or anything beyond their own interests. Sometimes we hear statements like "Anyone could do that under the right circumstances" and thats just not true. There are thousands of people in horrible situations that would never dream of harming their child.

Please don't elevate this woman to the same level of humanity that most of us live on. Define her by what she is: Human garbage.

I definitely see your point of view - I just think that death is the easy way out.....rotting in jail...most likely getting gang raped by some scary women....knowing that she will never have her freedom again....and spending the rest of her life knowing that she will never be able to party or go clubbing or whatever again.....to me, personally that is way more of a punishment than death.

 

[Anzik]

Please don't feel like I'm singling you out Jen, I'm really not. You just happened to voice a popular theory.
As people who love our lives and or freedom (and value life in general) we can't see things the same way as people who don't value them. I teach three prison guards, my wife has a cousin who is a prison guard and my father in law manages the kitchen in the county jail, and we've discussed this stuff at length. They feel that way for the first year, but after that it all becomes normal to them. They just coin the phrase that they are 'gay for the stay' and they just accept it as reality. It might be a crappy life but its still life.

We can't imagine 'getting used to that' which is exactly what keeps us from doing things to go there.

It's just a different mindset.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

See this is the problem. Her daughter was dead in a plastic bag in a swamp and she went to clubs. She isn't like the vast majority of people in the world. She clearly doesn't have a conscience so the days she spends in a cell will consist of her remorseful that she was caught, or that she had a child to begin with.
This woman clearly loves living, because she was living it up pretty good. Take away the one thing she truly loves: Her life.

Most people like to think that everyone is basically the same, meaning good intentioned, but its really not the case. There is a percentage of the public, that does not have the ability to feel things like compassion or remorse, or anything beyond their own interests. Sometimes we hear statements like "Anyone could do that under the right circumstances" and thats just not true. There are thousands of people in horrible situations that would never dream of harming their child.

Please don't elevate this woman to the same level of humanity that most of us live on. Define her by what she is: Human garbage.

Very well put and I agree 100%.

 

[Jen]

Please don't feel like I'm singling you out Jen, I'm really not. You just happened to voice a popular theory.
As people who love our lives and or freedom (and value life in general) we can't see things the same way as people who don't value them. I teach three prison guards, my wife has a cousin who is a prison guard and my father in law manages the kitchen in the county jail, and we've discussed this stuff at length. They feel that way for the first year, but after that it all becomes normal to them. They just coin the phrase that they are 'gay for the stay' and they just accept it as reality. It might be a crappy life but its still life.

We can't imagine 'getting used to that' which is exactly what keeps us from doing things to go there.

It's just a different mindset.

I'm not taking anything personal - and I truly see both sides of this debate. If I had to choose for myself between death or life in jail, I would want death....be done with it...even if it's still life - as you said it's a pretty crappy one and knowing that's how you'll spend the rest of your days sounds horrific to me...I'd rather just say game over and be done with it all. I can't imagine waking up day after day to the exact same routine....having to learn to accept and be gay while in prison - the tasks you have to do and then coming back to your tiny cell night after night. You may get used to it.....but it's hardly a life. That sounds more horrific to me and the fact that one may get used to it sounds even more awful. But that's me.....I only know one person who does some volunteer work at a prison and that's it...so I don't really have much of a perspective of what it's like.....but if it's anything like Oz, well like I said, I'd prefer death....and if that's what I would prefer, then as a true punishment, I should have life in jail.
And being Catholic.....sometimes the idea of taking someone else's life (even horrible people who have done horrific things) seems wrong to me.....but then on the flip side, if someone close to me was murdered, I would probably want their killer to have their life taken in the most painful way.....so it's such a weird topic for me. I have a hard time really sticking to one side...I just end up floating around in the middle...if that makes any sense.

 

[El Roranous]

I feel the same way Jen.

 

[Jen]

I feel the same way Jen.

We can float around in the middle together.

 

[El Roranous]