Collectorcol
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The teeth on this are far from perfect.
Two teeth to the left of the front two look pretty bad to me.
Two teeth to the left of the front two look pretty bad to me.
Chronicle collectibles T-800 life size bust: Terminator Genisys.
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The teeth are the original SS are good, but they haven't sold those for quite a while, plus they sell for a lot more. The current SS busts are total ****, and the CC one is much better, although it is a Gen bust. If you think the CC bust teeth are pretty bad, what does that say about SS's teeth? Lots of people will buy the new bust because they collect Terminator collectibles, period. I have the HCG T-800 bust, the SS T-600/T-700(teeth only look good because they're metal colored), and soon to be CC Genisys bust. Lots of people collect more than one bust. They actually collect things from each movie, so one and done isn't for all of us.
Collectorcol
Super Freak
Like I said, the original SS Bust is awesome, the new ones aren't.
This will be better than the new SS offerings.
Dissing all Sideshow T-800 Busts is wrong, imo
There's only so many times I can read 'This is better than all Sideshows Busts' before chipping in.
This will be better than the new SS offerings.
Dissing all Sideshow T-800 Busts is wrong, imo
There's only so many times I can read 'This is better than all Sideshows Busts' before chipping in.
DeadLeaves
Super Freak
This certainly is a nice looking bust, I would prefer if it was electro-plated/chromed rather than painted, though. I like the downward tilt of the skull, like the SS has, makes him look mean.
The teeth, while an improvement over the early SS busts, are not that amazingly different. They still don't look like real teeth. I wouldn't touch the new SS combat endo skulls with a ten foot cattle prod due to those horrible teeth & seems like the molds they are using to still make them are all slapped out.
I think people are disappointed that this didn't have more shoulder detail included, I know I am. I haven't bought any Terminator stuff since the HT Endo, I'm gonna get this, I really like the skull shape and detail. Price is good too.
The teeth, while an improvement over the early SS busts, are not that amazingly different. They still don't look like real teeth. I wouldn't touch the new SS combat endo skulls with a ten foot cattle prod due to those horrible teeth & seems like the molds they are using to still make them are all slapped out.
I think people are disappointed that this didn't have more shoulder detail included, I know I am. I haven't bought any Terminator stuff since the HT Endo, I'm gonna get this, I really like the skull shape and detail. Price is good too.
CallMe_Snake
Freaked Out
Even so, a massive improvement over what's been offered so far. At least these teeth don't look like one plastic piece stuck together like the others do.
Plus the color, the acrylic makes a massive difference in keeping it from looking cheap and fake.
I can't believe how bad some of the others look. The teeth sticking together like that, and not just at the gum line. Insulting for the amount of money they charge for something so sloppy in my opinion.
Can anyone post a pic of what they consider good teeth on one of these? From any make, not just SS? I'm curious to see it. Seriously, not to bash it. I just can't find a good example of when the teeth looked better then what I see in the CC version here.
Show me.
Collectorcol
Super Freak
The teeth on mine look more natural... But I am British
DeadLeaves
Super Freak
Sounds like there isn't any point, you'd just tear it apart & bash the competition like you have in almost every single post before.
The SS teeth were always it's weakest part. The molars are joined together. I don't see why you have to bash it so much, just talk up this one if it makes you feel better, saying the SS is garbage will only get you into arguments. Maybe that's what you want?
Again, I will be getting this.
The SS teeth were always it's weakest part. The molars are joined together. I don't see why you have to bash it so much, just talk up this one if it makes you feel better, saying the SS is garbage will only get you into arguments. Maybe that's what you want?
Again, I will be getting this.
CallMe_Snake
Freaked Out
The teeth on mine look more natural... But I am British
Lol, touché
I wouldn't bash it if there was something that actually looks good and not like one hunk of plastic. It's not the molars being stuck together that's the issue. You can't really even see that. It's the way the incisors are obviously stuck together and not just at the gum line, that is what makes it look like cheap molded plastic. The rest of the skull might look nice but as soon as your eyes move to the teeth, yikes.Sounds like there isn't any point, you'd just tear it apart & bash the competition like you have in almost every single post before.
The SS teeth were always it's weakest part. The molars are joined together. I don't see why you have to bash it so much, just talk up this one if it makes you feel better, saying the SS is garbage will only get you into arguments. Maybe that's what you want?
Again, I will be getting this.
I've just seen a few people try to defend the first gen of SS Endo skulls, saying the teeth were great.
I've shown pics to back up my statements and explain my opinions. So far no one that wants to argue has shown anything to support the argument. It's just.. 'Well, mine is great so there..'
Show why.
DeadLeaves
Super Freak
SS? Go back a few pages and look at Pilky's post of the teeth compared to the product shots that were done side by side with this one.
DeadLeaves
Super Freak
Ok, not a great shot, was with my old camera back in 2009.
I never said the teeth were great, quite the opposite. Sitting up the shelf they look fine - right up close they're not.
The overall bust is great, one of SS's best IMO. Saying it's garbage is pretty hyperbolic, to say the least.On a totally different note, I noticed instantly (but I didn't want to be nit-picky) on the CC promo pics that there is a huge paint scuff under the nose, I hope none of the production units suffer from the same problems.
CallMe_Snake
Freaked Out
Thanks for the pic. It's defintly better than what they offer now, but I still think it looks pretty bad in comparison to the CC bust as far as the tooth and display base. :/
One of the reasons why I never wanted a SS bust is the way the teeth are attached to the skull. It's bad enough they are one connected piece of plastic, but the way the metal 'gum line' is so high up you can see the seam where all of the teeth are attached to each other, and not actually in the skull like teeth should be.
Seems like the old Icons replica was the closed to getting that right..
It really kills the whole thing for me to see the teeth connected to each other and not in skull the way it should be.
The CC one seems to have that issue resolved, at least way more than SS ever did.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here being you said you plan on getting one, and you agreed the teeth were always an issue with the SS.
I just can't wrap my head around people saying the original SS bust had great teeth and that the CC version offers nothing improved over the SS.
One of the reasons why I never wanted a SS bust is the way the teeth are attached to the skull. It's bad enough they are one connected piece of plastic, but the way the metal 'gum line' is so high up you can see the seam where all of the teeth are attached to each other, and not actually in the skull like teeth should be.
Seems like the old Icons replica was the closed to getting that right..
It really kills the whole thing for me to see the teeth connected to each other and not in skull the way it should be.
The CC one seems to have that issue resolved, at least way more than SS ever did.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here being you said you plan on getting one, and you agreed the teeth were always an issue with the SS.
I just can't wrap my head around people saying the original SS bust had great teeth and that the CC version offers nothing improved over the SS.
The second one is not my photo.
I wasn't able to get the first batch of SS endoskull,but judging from the early photos, the teeth was pretty good, even better than Chronicle endoskull.
But anyway, this bust most likely going to be a pass for me. For only two reasons, the shape is very similar to the original Stan Winston one, and the movie is hardly going to offer the same level of impression as T1&T2.
For now, I need a T-x bust, that's all.
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the teeth on the sideshow ones are far from perfect since day 1, having a real clean one I can tell you they are 100x better than the new ones, but sideshow lengthened the lower teeth making them crazy long. The new endo was painted and yes it looks like chrome but its not so no use crying over that. This bust also warrants the purchase if your a fan simply because its totally different than the SS release. Hell any release up until now. This and the 1/4 scale endo are buys for me since they are totally different as well as made by legacy.
jaxon
Super Freak
My only gripe is I wish it was more like the t-600 and iron man 42 bust. Still a want.
CallMe_Snake
Freaked Out
It's not just "slightly improved teeth", are you looking at those comparison photos? Besides the teeth, it's a much more precise and complex build with almost twice the part count from what Paul has said.
I'm not necessarily talking about someone dropping what they purchased years ago and choosing CC version, as if people can only have one Endo skull from one movie.
I'm talking about out of what is being offered right now, new, pre-orders from these two companies.
Between what Chronicle is putting up for $499 vs what Sideshow is offering for at $579. How anyone could possibly consider buying Sideshow's new version over Chronicle's offering seems completely insane to me.
..."slightly improved teeth". Right, only slightly.
Python
Super Freak
I had an original SS skull, the teeth were really bad even on that which is the main reason I sold it. Not sure why people seem to be remembering otherwise? It was a nice bust otherwise though and certainly from the preferred movie. This one isn't a revolution by any means, it's another metal skull at the end of the day. But it is a completely new design, and it does look very nice imo, apart from the blocky black base which looks a bit plasticy and bulky for me. Otherwise it's all good. As for the paint, this is alclad I believe, same as the original prop it was based on. Can't complain about that. The SSC version isn't really an option anymore anyway, the mold has had it and the new ones have lost a lot of detail. I'm sure we'll see a new T1 or T2 version in future..
Not trying to defend SS endoskull, I don't have the bust from the first batch. But based on the photo of the early endoskull, which I think it looks even better than CC's. Sideshow’s has better shape and thickness, also the canine teeth looks much shaper than CC's. Also the glossy feeling on sideshow's is great.
And we're now using the sideshow inhand product to compare with prototype model of Chronicle, who knows what will happen when CC's endo get mass-produced and muti-cast by factory?
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