CW Green Arrow series, "Arrow"

[batfan08]

I still think they're setting up some sort of "legacy " aspect, where Sarah gets killed and Laurel takes up the mantle of Black Canary.

 

[Magpie 7]

I just don't see Katie Cassidy playing a superhero, i mean all Slade Wilson needs to do is blow and she'll be over.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I know I've said it before, but I just don't see how Laurel could become Black Canary. She's light years behind the rest of these characters in skill and training. I can't imagine a scenario where it becomes even remotely plausible.

 

[Jaycepticon]

I know I've said it before, but I just don't see how Laurel could become Black Canary. She's light years behind the rest of these characters in skill and training. I can't imagine a scenario where it becomes even remotely plausible.

While I completely agree, it's still a CW show so it'll definitely be forced once "they" decide to make that happen.

 

[Anzik]

I can see them making her into an Oracle type character but Felicity sort of fills that at the moment.

 

[Mister Ski]

This series has been up and down for me lately. The Suicide Squad episode was "down". The Huntress ep was "up". Tonight's ep was all sizzle and no steak. It is starting to veer into Smallville territory for me with the Thea being mad that Ollie lied to her about Malcolm Merlyn being her father (p.s. - how did Slade know that Ollie knew that tidbit?). Then the scenes with Roy were incredibly frustrating. I am hating his character more and more. Finally, the reveal that Isabella was working for Slade and is also a trained martial arts person was too soap opera-y for my tastes.

What could have saved this episode was if Slade had killed Laurel at the end. Think about how that would have been the perfect way for Slade to get back at both Ollie and Sara. No, instead he tells her that Ollie is the Arrow. Shocker! We better not spend the next episode with Laurel (and Thea) mad at Ollie. People need to grow the f up.

 

[sifu74]

And it will be back in two weeks, what the F is up with CW doing that? Damn annoying!

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

I wouldn't say it's anywhere near Smallville territory yet, but yeah so far the second half of this season hasn't been so great IMO. Slade claims he wants to take everything that Oliver loves, and he keeps making all of these threats only for nothing to come of them.

First he lets Thea go, now he goes over to say hi to Laurel and let her know that Oliver's the Arrow (something she would have figured out sooner or later and probably won't have a significant effect on her well-being or relationship with him).

Someone needs to get brutally murdered (preferably Laurel, but they just missed the perfect opportunity). No more of these hollow threats and back and forth soap opera drama.

 

[dan350zr]

I thought the first season of Arrow was awesome but this second season has been a bit cheesy, so far the only good thing about the second season has been the flashbacks of what happened on the island.

Right now it's defiantly heading towards Smallville (Season 6-10) territory with the cheesiness. I would of preferred they kept Arrow more dark & edgy...

The other issue is they're using to many studio sets instead of real locations, it comes off as really fake and cheap, that was a huge problem with smallville the last several seasons as everything was shot on sets.

 

[yruh8n]

Slade told Laurel that Oliver was the Arrow to put her in a moral dilemma. Her father has been arrested for not giving up Arrow's identity. Now she has to decide weither to save her father with that information and expose Oliver, or protect Oliver's identity and watch her father go to prison. Slade still suffers emotionally and he wants Oliver to do the same. It's not rocket science. Currently my only gripe with this show is Detective Lance's apparent ignorance of the fact that Oliver is Arrow. A decent detective could have put that together pretty quick after the vigilante/Arrow turned up right after Oliver returned. Now that he knows Sarah is Black Canary it seems more than ridiculous that he hasn't put two and two together on Oliver/Arrow. They are probably saving that reveal so Lance can have a Captain Stacy/Spider-man moment before taking the dirt nap. Other small things I'm willing to give a pass if it means keeping the viewer numbers up.

 

[Mister Ski]

Slade told Laurel that Oliver was the Arrow to put her in a moral dilemma. Her father has been arrested for not giving up Arrow's identity. Now she has to decide weither to save her father with that information and expose Oliver, or protect Oliver's identity and watch her father go to prison. Slade still suffers emotionally and he wants Oliver to do the same. It's not rocket science. Currently my only gripe with this show is Detective Lance's apparent ignorance of the fact that Oliver is Arrow. A decent detective could have put that together pretty quick after the vigilante/Arrow turned up right after Oliver returned. Now that he knows Sarah is Black Canary it seems more than ridiculous that he hasn't put two and two together on Oliver/Arrow. They are probably saving that reveal so Lance can have a Captain Stacy/Spider-man moment before taking the dirt nap. Other small things I'm willing to give a pass if it means keeping the viewer numbers up.

Ok. I can see that to a point, but it is a little too much soap opera drama for my tastes. First off, I was rolling my eyes over Det Lance being arrested. That was ridiculous and completely without merit. That case would never get to trial, let alone be found guilty, with no evidence whatsoever. All Laurel has to do is defend him to get him released without revealing Arrow's identity. That is creating a dilemma for Laurel more so than Oliver. I am sure Oliver would want to reveal his identity if Laurel asked him to. I think they missed an opportunity to have Deathstroke really hurt Oliver by killing Laurel.

I was also disappointed with Slade kidnapping Thea, only to release her after telling her about her real father. I was hoping Thea's kidnapping would have brought Malcolm back to town and have him "team up" with Oliver to rescue her. That had a lot of potential, but it all fizzled out with only Thea finding out about her real father.

I liked this show alot more when it was darker and more adult. It seems like now they are trying to cram in as many comic references/characters as possible at the expense of the darker, more mature storytelling.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Yeah, I was also hoping Malcolm would show up and join Oliver at some point. I'm betting it will still happen, but this episode would have been the perfect opportunity to bring him in.

Slade told Laurel that Oliver was the Arrow to put her in a moral dilemma. Her father has been arrested for not giving up Arrow's identity. Now she has to decide weither to save her father with that information and expose Oliver, or protect Oliver's identity and watch her father go to prison. Slade still suffers emotionally and he wants Oliver to do the same. It's not rocket science. Currently my only gripe with this show is Detective Lance's apparent ignorance of the fact that Oliver is Arrow. A decent detective could have put that together pretty quick after the vigilante/Arrow turned up right after Oliver returned. Now that he knows Sarah is Black Canary it seems more than ridiculous that he hasn't put two and two together on Oliver/Arrow. They are probably saving that reveal so Lance can have a Captain Stacy/Spider-man moment before taking the dirt nap. Other small things I'm willing to give a pass if it means keeping the viewer numbers up.

Nope, it's not rocket science at all. In fact it's quite the opposite of it.

If Slade's big plan that he's been thinking up for five years is to run around telling all of Oliver's family/friends secrets, he needs a new plan. I don't want to see more of Thea being mad at Oliver, Laurel being mad at Oliver, Thea being mad at her mom, Roy being mad at Oliver, Oliver being mad at his mom, Thea being mad at Roy, etc.

I want to see the story progress. I want to see Slade actually live up to his hunger for vengeance and the threats he's made.

 

[Frank]

Yeah, it's kind of like thinking you're going to be watching a heavyweight matchup only to see a pillow fight. It's understandable because they have to make the final episode the big payoff. What I did like was Isabel going from piece of *** to a formal bad guy, combined with photos of her new costume as a possible

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Former Detective Lance is actually a really strong character about now. Regardless of how excessively harsh he's being dealt with by his superiors, he's really stuck his neck out for GA. I dig it.

I don't mind Roy being an arse and all that implies.

 

[Niltusk]

They're trying to hard to draw it out for a good closer, what they should do is have Slade fade for awhile making Oliver wonder what will happen next if they want it to play longer rather than having Slade perpetrate all these... well, basically harsh practical jokes. They could still show what hes up to like with him grabbing the bus of prisoners without involving him in the other crap for filler.

 

[Mister Ski]

They're trying to hard to draw it out for a good closer, what they should do is have Slade fade for awhile making Oliver wonder what will happen next if they want it to play longer rather than having Slade perpetrate all these... well, basically harsh practical jokes. They could still show what hes up to like with him grabbing the bus of prisoners without involving him in the other crap for filler.

Well said.

 

[Niltusk]

Well said.

Thanks, brotha!

 

[sifu74]

Kinda dumb that officer Lance is in jail for bringing in Slade for the kidnapping of Thea that GA helped tip him off on but was released, but then the media reports that it was Slade who did do it. Let the man go free.

 

[Magpie 7]

I wonder just where they intend to take Slade now, i liked the idea that he was not simply the bad guy but somewhere in between good and bad. You didn't know how he'd react up to the point were he was injected with the Miraku, also by moving away from the comics give us a more unpredictable character.

The season finale is surely going to be the introduction of Ra's Al Ghul and i would love it if even though Slade still has his hatred towards Oliver that he will stand by his side against the League. As we've seen he has some affection still for Oliver as he still calls him his friend even though he wants to make Oliver feel the pain and despair he felt, may be he'll believe only he should kill Oliver and no one else.

But just imagine this as the final moments of the season finale roles... Oliver and Slade have battled to near exhaustion, Slade using his brute strength and Oliver matching him with his stable intellect and physical conditioning. Then out of the darkness steps Ra's and the League of Assassins including Merlyn and Nyssa, All that stands in their way is a battered Oliver and may be Sara and Roy, 3 against 30! Then at the last seconds of the episode Slade stands beside them, nothing is said as the screen turns black and the credits role.

 

[batfan08]

The more I think about it, the more I hope that they intentionally made Slade insane, and that it's not just a byproduct of sloppy writing. He makes Shado out to be his one great love, and, yet, his only interactions with her were being allies, and Slade, occassionally, being a stalker. I sincerely hope the finale has Ollie beating Slade down, not just physically, but mentally and emotionally, by saying that "she never loved you," and "you're insane." I don't see it happening, though, because I look at Oliver, and I see a man who still sees his friend in there, and wants, desperately, to save him.

 

[Frank]

They really didn't establish a connection between Slade and Shado before she was killed. He came off like a jealous tool there. You could blame it all on the Mirakuru for giving him a deluded perception of love which wasn't there. As far as I'm concerned, getting his eye poked out would qualify as an eternal hate generator. The sooner Shado is dropped, the better.