Daredevil Born Again (Disney+) - Spring 2024

[jye4ever]

Rumor is She-Hulk saves DD in a big fight.

Grrrrrr

 

[Mondragon]

Rumor is She-Hulk saves DD in a big fight.

Grrrrrr

Please No!
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[jye4ever]

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A homeless person told me hopefully he’s wrong.

 

[goatchumby]

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I think that Jye might be referring to...

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...this scene from She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

To be fair, DD did get his licks in before and after this. However, I'd be really surprised if they incorporate Jen into BA more than a throwaway "There was a lawyer..." line from Matt.

 

[crows]

A homeless person told me hopefully he’s wrong.

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i was there, the homeless guy's name was Jimbo sachez

 

[Mondragon]

... the homeless guy's name was Jimbo sachez

Jimbo & Sanchez? Was that the two he took a nap with in the gutter?
From Born Again: Poor Matt he is so strungout, broken and blind he thinks he's home in a cosy bed.

 

[Mondragon]

Anyway, I hope no She Hulk (though a Walters cameo would be fine, they are both lawyers, narrative context could certainly justify it.
Yet after three seasons on Netflix and some of the best well grounded, exigent fight choreography. The first thing Disney did with this character, was turn DD into an outrageous CG generated fighting cartoon caricature, in SHulk.

And then clowned Kingpin where he was written as a dismissive joke in Hawkeye .
So my expectations are low.

Though going by the D23 footage, hopefully it looks like they are back to form here, and the more grounded, weighty fights are back.
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[crows]

Anyway, I hope no She Hulk (though a Walters cameo would be fine, they are both lawyers, narrative context could certainly justify it.
Yet after three seasons on Netflix and some the best well grounded, exigent fight choreography. The first thing Disney did with this character, was turn DD into an outrageous CG generated fighting cartoon caricature, in SHulk.

And then clowned Kingpin where he was written as a dismissive joke in Hawkeye .
So my expectations are low.

Though going by the D23 footage, hopefully it looks like they are back to form here, and the more grounded, weighty fights are back.
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didn't they fire ( or didn't hire) the stunt guy for daredevil for she hulk?
I remember hearing that it didn't even have the stunt guy.

I absolutely do not want she hulk cameo for this because I KNOW That her dialogue is going to be jokes or cringey. or she's going to break the 4th wall or something.
I cannot see them doing a serious normal cameo.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Starting March 4th, 2025.

 

[Dave_W]

There's no MCU thread so I'll throw this here...

 

[jye4ever]

She wants to build something “undeniable”?

You mean building the exact same thing Stark has built a million times over?

It’s undeniable alright…

Undeniably stealing someone’s work lol

 

[ironwez20]

Yea I’m no “ o no woke” person but wtf is the point of her character besides making stark armor? Also wonder man is a stupid name and that Spider-Man show looks super janky

 

[Dave_W]

Yea I’m no “ o no woke” person but wtf is the point of her character besides making stark armor? Also wonder man is a stupid name and that Spider-Man show looks super janky

Box ticking? A lazy way to entice a certain demographic?

 

[ironwez20]

When marvel didn’t have rights to xmen they mad characters that were going to be in the mcu. That was there only purpose. The ones that come to mind are America Chavez and iron heart. They were meant to takeover when the og avengers were done.

 

[Mondragon]

I guess in this case they went all in with the first^ option. - https://www.inverse.com/article/49491-daredevil-season-3-on-netflix-is-less-costume-porn-than-arrow-showrunner-says

The irony is what they came up with doesn't look good in day or night.

They brought a guy onto Daredevil to oversee the last season who doesn't even like the costumes and thinks they don't look good.
I hate when the showrunners and creators are clearly ashamed of the subject matter, and don't want to be writing comic book heroes.

What's good if you collect figures, you don't have to wait, and can just break out your vintage Joe Beachead figure.

For the most part It references Chip Zdarsky art ; where they are drawing inspiration for his "new" look.

it's not bad, I actually think it's a fair interpretation, and speaks to the characters past, but yeah follows the more modern trend of being ashamed of the comic book axium that "costumes" existed, and it's all just been tactical "gear". Show going further in removing any recognizable themed logos.

Despite the new suit leaving some to be desired, that goes for DD as well, never liked any of the costume designs on the show. (other than the all black Zorro proto-suit, though he is meant to evolve from that.)

I thought Wilson Bethel was a great Bullseye, the whole season was an extended origin for him, and I'm gad they are following up S4.
Poindexter was an apropriatly unhinged, psychopath, whose insane OCD, manifests or is released as a near supernatural deadly skill (for good or bad), Yet he's unable to focus it, and himself, unless someone points him and his incredible skill to some "use".
And that's what he's looking for.
Be it his coach, the gov. military, FBI, as a hired assassin to Kingpin who finally provides him the focus and purpose he sought, and finally whoever is putting him together at the end.
Set up for S4

Thought that was a fantastic take. Much better than the caricature in the movie anyway, seemed a empathetic, humanizing look at Bullseye, who is mostly true to the comic (as far as I know), and a convincing deadly rival for DD.
So I'm curious how they use him in S4.

 

[crows]

She wants to build something “undeniable”?

You mean building the exact same thing Stark has built a million times over?

It’s undeniable alright…

Undeniably stealing someone’s work lol

Yea I’m no “ o no woke” person but wtf is the point of her character besides making stark armor? Also wonder man is a stupid name and that Spider-Man show looks super janky

oh bros no no that's toxic talk. she's better than tony stark bros she's smarter bros oh no no bros.
oh bros no

 

[Mondragon]

oh bros no no that's toxic talk. she's better than tony stark bros she's smarter bros oh no no bros.
oh bros no

What's funny; they will likely have her be the one to defeat Doomy Stark, or whatever he's supposed to be?

After DD S4 (if they don't F it up)
And Andor S2, I'm pretty much done with Disney's take on these two Universes, after those looks like they have nothing that unique or interesting to me.

@ abt 0:54 Some DD maybe one blink-and-you-miss new shot.

 

[xipotec]

Men DD looks good.

The rest is clearly aimed at getting new viewers to the table.
They still have not realized those "new" viewers are fickle as hell, and to them the "superhero" phase ended in 2022.

They really need to get back to what the hardcore fans want and forget trying to entice new viewers. The ONLY viable platform for trying to gain new viewers is in kids.....

Teens and adult are not gonna be swayed by this new stuff , the older hardcore fanbase wants older style stories and characters, and this is clearly not marketable to children.

I am all for new characters, even those non traditional roles, but this shows should be aimed toward children , cause no one else is interested or can be accepting besides them.

 

[Mondragon]

... but this shows should be aimed toward children , cause no one else is interested or can be accepting besides them.

Many comics characters stoped being for children, sense abt the Bronze Age, a little before the time he showed up.

Thankfully the genre and franchise is expansive and flexible enough for both. Some kids have no problem getting into more adult oriented shows.
And it should not pander to them alone, as they recognize when that is done too, and quickly grow away from it.
Half this show (and drive of the main character) could just as well be a court room precedural, civil unrest, local politics and gritty organized crime thriller, yet still and action show.

I am all for new characters, even those non traditional roles, but this shows should be aimed toward children , cause no one else is interested or can be accepting besides them.

The show had plenty of an audience at Netflix as is, it was Disney politics and business shenaningans on how to "reinvent" it for their audiance that stalled it . Nothing to do with the show’s quality or people not interested or wanting more.

 

[Mondragon]

https://ew.com/daredevil-born-again-exclusive-photos-charlie-cox-interview-8741233

“It had been conceived as more of a legal procedural, and we really brought it back towards an action-based New York crime story,” Scardapane told EW. “The real trick was to have the DNA of the old Netflix show, but then push it forward into something very new.”

“The thing that we kept talking about was, this show has had the success that it’s had and has appealed to a very specific demographic because it’s one of the few superhero shows that is so dark and sinister at times,” explained Cox.

“Vincent and I both felt like if you lose that, you are at risk of losing the identity of our show. So we really pushed for the show to remain geared towards an older audience and not dumbed down to kind of capture a wider net of people.