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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Skimmed trough the review but it seems like he is trying way too hard to dislike the movie. Calling it too dark and **** like that, what's the matter with dark comic book movies?

It all comes down to execution. Let's examine, say... Carnage. Easily one of the worst characters to come out of the 90s. He's Joker with powers, minus the occasional philosophy lesson. So, when you see him appear in a book, all you'll get are some cheap "scares", blood, awful laughing, and cheesiness. That's what I consider "edgy dark". Just using mature themes, but going so over the top, that they become comical instead of thought provoking or dreadful. Which, according to the things I've heard, is what SKWAD suffers from. Same as the Nu52 Vol that it was based on.

Now, if you look at Carnage's current book, you'll see that he's become a three-dimensional character. He has opinions, a defined character, motives, and actually has a plan, one that has scope. This time around, he's a mix between Childress and John Doe, instead of B-Movie Killer. Now this is what I call "true dark", as it has a morbid theme and sticks with it, without losing its meaning. TDK was like that, and in a way, BvS as well. If it had done away with certain scenes and decisions, it was on the right track. That's how the original SS book by Ostrander was. It had its light and dark moments, but there was a balance.

TL;DR: Sometimes, a dark backdrop is used, like here, but the execution is so different and ueven, that you end up with a disjointed film, book, game, which doesn't have a clear identity.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I dont give a single **** about what reviewers have to say. Most of them dont give a crap about a film unless its a titanic type film, most of them want grand story films and when ever they watch something thats not up to their high quality standards of cinema , they just toss it aside , give it a bad review and walk away giving it a ultra low score. Keeping in mind that most critics like movies that most of us wont watch, i honestly give 0 **** what they think.
ill watch this film , no matter what critics say
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

It starts...

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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Oh man. Time to abandon ship. This movie is taking on water by the second. Reviews are getting just nasty. What a shame.

I guess the curse of saying **** like "***** Marvel" continues.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I dont give a single **** about what reviewers have to say. Most of them dont give a crap about a film unless its a titanic type film, most of them want grand story films and when ever they watch something thats not up to their high quality standards of cinema , they just toss it aside , give it a bad review and walk away giving it a ultra low score. Keeping in mind that most critics like movies that most of us wont watch, i honestly give 0 **** what they think.
ill watch this film , no matter what critics say

Yeah, well, Deadpool, the movie where he jerks himself off with his baby hand while wearing unicorn slippers has a 84% so, maybe it's just that... some movies are... not that good?
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Yup, it's just the Nu52 SKWAD... This one's more positive, but it just paints the previous review's negatives as positives: https://www.comicbookresources.com/article/review-suicide-squad-is-exactly-what-dcs-film-franchise-needs?utm_campaign=review-suicide-squad-is-exactly-what-dcs-film-franchise-needs&utm_medium=internal_links&utm_source=breaking_banner

I guess it all comes down to what you're expecting from this. From the leaks and the insider info, you're either gonna love it or hate it. If you're into zany, "bad-ass" things and want to turn off your brain for a while, it's good, just like the Nu52 vol.

He said Letoker was lame...:(

All I want from this film is a good Joker.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I'll still see it. Just a shame that Will Smith ruins yet another movie haha (partial joke)

I still loved Heath's joker mores than the others although Nicholson was more accurate.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Yeah, well, Deadpool, the movie where he jerks himself off with his baby hand while wearing unicorn slippers has a 84% so, maybe it's just that... some movies are... not that good?

my point is , im not relying on reviews to get an idea what to expect, screw that, i have been hyped since the start of the ride, im going to enjoy it and if it crashes then be so, but its going to crash because i got on and went all the way ,not because a hand full of reviews(at the moment) are saying , its **** .
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Hopefully it does well in the box office so we'll get a sequel or at least the Harley Quinn movie they've been talking about. At this point I don't care about the critics. I'll wait for tomorrow when I see the movie myself to form my own opinion.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

He said Letoker was lame...:(

All I want from this film is a good Joker.

Come on, we all saw that coming. We wanted to deny it and hoped for something better, but Letoker always spelled disaster. Which is a shame, since the first blurry pics of him looked terrifying. But, yeah...

my point is , im not relying on reviews to get an idea what to expect, screw that, i have been hyped since the start of the ride, im going to enjoy it and if it crashes then be so, but its going to crash because i got on and went all the way ,not because a hand full of reviews(at the moment) are saying , its **** .

Eh, nobody can tell you how you feel, but more often than not, the consensus is right. Not always, and yeah, you're most definitely entitled to your opinion, but I always found the "critics only like stuff that deal with racism/sexim/historical events and snob on the rest" theory silly.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

They should have just made Joker female so that the feminist faction of reviewers would support it.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I'm hoping to like this more than BVS but the reviews are, at best, OK. WB really need to get their **** together and stop this.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

WB needs to stop going for "cool" (e.g. Michael Bay, Snyder type crap) and go for storytelling. That's why makes these movies work. It's as if they are marketing to low-IQ people in that these movies are cool (but shallow). They need depth to be worthy. Nolan did that. These haven't.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Come on, we all saw that coming. We wanted to deny it and hoped for something better, but Letoker always spelled disaster. Which is a shame, since the first blurry pics of him looked terrifying. But, yeah....

The IGN review says he doesn't have much of an impact and doesn't get a "do you want to know how I got these scars?" moment. He's just sort of there...hopefully I still like him.
 
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