DC Direct doing Batman The Animated Series figures!!!!!

[batfan08]

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I don't know why it has to be a competition, myself. I view TNBA as what it is: a continuation of TAS, and, in doing so, I find that they each complement each other well. I supported both lines and find them each aesthetically pleasing in their own rights. Both shows have their strengths and weaknesses, in terms of design. I like TNBAs Penguin and their creepy, "Hanged Reverend" Scarecrow with Jeffrey Combs was eerie as hell and equally mysterious. There's a ghoulish quality to him that makes you wonder if it's even Crane behind that mask, or, if that's a mask, at all. Plus, TNBA has Over the Edge, which I still maintain should replace The Killing Joke in canon for how Babs got paralyzed.

Similarly, what I adored about TAS was the classic dark-deco world they built, and the fact that, if DCC were to make some 6" Fleischer Superman figures (God, suddenly, I want those) in this style, you could put that Batman and Superman together pretty seamlessly. The designs were iconic and timeless and, when you add the nostalgia factor, you get people who have their favorites, and that's cool. Me? I missed the boat on TAS' original run by about a year, so, I grew up with a mix of TNBA and TAS both in the late '90s, which is probably why I have so much affection for both.

 

[DiFabio]

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It's not just the animation though, it's the characters. Bruce Wayne becomes a robotic **** head with no personality (along with Grayson), Batgirl gets slutty always wanting Batman's D (also preferred the original voice actress of Barbara from BTAS), Freeze becomes a silly immortal robot when his character arc should have ended with BTAS, Two-Face gets a third identity making him even less sympathetic, etc. etc.

A lot of characters seemed to be stripped of their personality. Is blander better? Is having the characters become more simplified just like the animation a good thing? And stylistically, it's always bothered me how every TNBA episode looks the same. It's boring. You look at BTAS and you see clear inspirations from episode to episode because they had different writers and artists from episode to episode. On Leather Wings doesn't look or feel like Christmas with the Joker. The nourish detective story of a Bullet for Bullock is a lot different than the Demon's Quest. That feeling of uniqueness goes right down to the individual title cards that the BTAS episodes received, something TNBA didn't have. There is a nice variation whether it's a solo Batman story, a Batman and Robin story, a villain story or an episode like POV with the GCPD. TNBA doesn't really have any of that. Take a random screenshot from any TNBA episode that isn't Legends of the Dark Knight and you'd be hard pressed to identify which episode it was actually from.

 

[batfan08]

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I always liked Melissa Gilbert's Batgirl, too, but, for me, a lot of it is just character progression. Some of it worked, and some of it didn't. Looking at Batman, for example, I might have agreed with you if we were just talking TAS and TNBA, but I like the progression from TAS Batman to grumpy old *** hole Bruce in Beyond, and, for better or worse, it never doesn't make sense, in terms of the arc of the Batfamily. **** falls for Babs, Babs falls for Bruce, **** resents Bruce and stops being his partner, Bruce loses Tim, eventually pushes Babs away, and it's easy to see how the wisecracking, swashbuckling Batman becomes something of a stick in the mud over time, and they continue with that through all of the series. That's part of why I love him sitting with Ace and waiting for her to die in JLU, because it gives you a glimpse of that old Batman who really, genuinely cared about people. He's still there; it's just that some of that optimism gets buried under the mission.

I agree with you on Freeze and Two-Face, but I thought the ideas behind them were good, it's just the execution that was poor. Freeze cured Nora in TNBA, didn't he? I feel like that idea that he had succeeded in saving his wife, but at a severe cost to himself that would prevent them from ever being together was a cool twist, but the disembodied head on the spider legs was a little much. Like, I get that this is a show with a sentient, 7 foot tall blob of clay, but, even as a kid, it's like "where the **** are his internal organs?" Same deal with the judge. Again, cool idea, **** design. The notion that Harvey would become increasingly unhinged over time and his condition would progress is cool as hell, and the idea that a third personality would evolve from Harvey's sense of justice that drove him to be a DA, with all of the volatility of his Big Bad Harv persona is, again, pretty damn fascinating, but when it manifests itself in a powdered wig and a giant mallet, it's a little much.

 

[nachobat]

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The third personality of Two Face was a cool idea, I kinda don´t mind about Freeze and his robot body. I think "Cold Comfort" was an ok episode, it needed something else and I´m not talking about the fact about Freeze´s accident. Now, if you want to read a good story about TNBA Freeze, read BGA # 5, it was a better story than "Cold Comfort". Still, TNBA is a season I really love.

 

[chewblacca]

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BTAS was always dark and spooky that fit Batman perfectly. In an interview with Bruce Timm he said that Chinese animators were literally dying from all the paint they had to use on the black backgrounds for the show. The producers decided to change the animation and bring in the young Robin to draw more kids.

 

[blebble]

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No one mentioned that TAS have 85 episodes in 4 seasons. TNBA have 24 episodes and only 2 season. IMO it's useless to compare them. That's why I enjoy them both, each one have strong and weak points.

 

[nachobat]

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No one mentioned that TAS have 85 episodes in 4 seasons. TNBA have 24 episodes and only 2 season. IMO it's useless to compare them. That's why I enjoy them both, each one have strong and weak points.

Exactly, kinda unfair to compare 85 episodes against 24

 

[GeneralZodLives]

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I always liked Melissa Gilbert's Batgirl, too, but, for me, a lot of it is just character progression. Some of it worked, and some of it didn't. Looking at Batman, for example, I might have agreed with you if we were just talking TAS and TNBA, but I like the progression from TAS Batman to grumpy old *** hole Bruce in Beyond, and, for better or worse, it never doesn't make sense, in terms of the arc of the Batfamily. **** falls for Babs, Babs falls for Bruce, **** resents Bruce and stops being his partner, Bruce loses Tim, eventually pushes Babs away, and it's easy to see how the wisecracking, swashbuckling Batman becomes something of a stick in the mud over time, and they continue with that through all of the series. That's part of why I love him sitting with Ace and waiting for her to die in JLU, because it gives you a glimpse of that old Batman who really, genuinely cared about people. He's still there; it's just that some of that optimism gets buried under the mission.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to batfan08 again.

 

[World'sGreatestDetective]

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Well, since the discussion has shifted from "animation quality" to "personal designs and stories preferences", as usual (it will never change), I quit it, as the latter was never my point.


In other news, DCC has confirmed the original $175 SRP for the Batcave/Alfred set:
https://www.facebook.com/DCCollecti...17614609257/10155258652789258/?type=3&theater

Thank God.
Still kinda too much, but it will be possible to find it for around $150 or less, if we shop around.

 

[phantasm]

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Still $75 too much, unfortunately. Can't support that srp. Hopefully it will warm shelves and drop to around $100 sooner than later lol. Worst case I'll just snag Alfred loose somewhere

 

[blebble]

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In other news, DCC has confirmed the original $175 SRP for the Batcave/Alfred set:
https://www.facebook.com/DCCollecti...17614609257/10155258652789258/?type=3&theater
Thank God.
Still kinda too much, but it will be possible to find it for around $150 or less, if we shop around.

Thanks for the info! Ugh... Still sound very bad for me and my wallet

Still $75 too much, unfortunately. Can't support that srp. Hopefully it will warm shelves and drop to around $100 sooner than later lol. Worst case I'll just snag Alfred loose somewhere

I agree. Maybe a lot of you who live in USA or UK don't know it but for us who live in Europe 175$ is still a bad news. Usually we allready pay these figures overpriced in euros (around 35-40 of your $), and if we buy online, overseas ship kill us. With regular single card releases we can save money (I always buy from UK on eBay because cost WAY less than buy in Italy) but with big figures or multi packs things changes. Ships are way higer if the object is big, and with the cave will be impossible to have a cheap shippment price... Plus I don't give a crap about the cave, I just want Alfred but noooooooo.. Why do a single card release of one main character of the show? Who will ever buy it, right? -.- Let's put it in a "givemeyourmoneyorscrewyou" giant box... -.-
*rage moment done

Now I return happy and enjoy my collection just got my Talia yesterday and the expression pack is on my way xDD Can't wait to pose batman.. I have an idea of where display him.. (even if I'm almost done with space... hahaha)

 

[sfa]

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Got Riddler and Catwoman today. they're actually really awesome in hand, especially Riddler. And they look great with the other TNBA rogues too!

 

[phantasm]

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Thanks for the info! Ugh... Still sound very bad for me and my wallet



I agree. Maybe a lot of you who live in USA or UK don't know it but for us who live in Europe 175$ is still a bad news. Usually we allready pay these figures overpriced in euros (around 35-40 of your $), and if we buy online, overseas ship kill us. With regular single card releases we can save money (I always buy from UK on eBay because cost WAY less than buy in Italy) but with big figures or multi packs things changes. Ships are way higer if the object is big, and with the cave will be impossible to have a cheap shippment price... Plus I don't give a crap about the cave, I just want Alfred but noooooooo.. Why do a single card release of one main character of the show? Who will ever buy it, right? -.- Let's put it in a "givemeyourmoneyorscrewyou" giant box... -.-
*rage moment done

Now I return happy and enjoy my collection just got my Talia yesterday and the expression pack is on my way xDD Can't wait to pose batman.. I have an idea of where display him.. (even if I'm almost done with space... hahaha)

Yea, that really sucks, man. I feel for you guys who have to pay even more ridiculous prices due to location


Nice pics, sfa! They really do look good with the other villains! Still a boring little "wave" for me though. Still have to laugh at Riddler's scene girl shoes lol

 

[blebble]

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Damn you SFA! You make me wanna buy all TNBA stuff even if I don't have space anymore!!
My expression pack arrived! I love everything in the set! Beside Bert Wayne head.. -.- Must work on that one day and try to follow Zelu's tutorial
Pretty happy about the bat too! Harley can hold it very well

Here's a couple of pics of my collection so far (forgive the horrible quality/lights... T.T)

Kudos to DCC for the stand! Is very good quality and hold Batman weight pretty well. I'm impressed with that


Last curiosity, standard Batman head have bigger eyes and thin/short mouth compared to the deluxe batmobile pack one. I've switched his head on my "main" Batman (Phantasm too, the one in the expression pack looks way better! The nose is perfect this time)

 

[World'sGreatestDetective]

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Still $75 too much, unfortunately. Can't support that srp. Hopefully it will warm shelves and drop to around $100 sooner than later lol. Worst case I'll just snag Alfred loose somewhere

Yeah. I expect to find it in the $100-130ish range. I'd wouldn't complain about that. $150 tops, worst case scenario.
I "need" both Alfred and the cave, so paying a bit more wouldn't kill me, ya know?

How much did you pay for the Batwing, bro?
It's $175 SRP too, and comes with much less than the Batcave set!

 

[World'sGreatestDetective]

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Damn you SFA! You make me wanna buy all TNBA stuff even if I don't have space anymore!!
My expression pack arrived! I love everything in the set! Beside Bert Wayne head.. -.- Must work on that one day and try to follow Zelu's tutorial
Pretty happy about the bat too! Harley can hold it very well
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Here's a couple of pics of my collection so far (forgive the horrible quality/lights... T.T)
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Kudos to DCC for the stand! Is very good quality and hold Batman weight pretty well. I'm impressed with that
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Last curiosity, standard Batman head have bigger eyes and thin/short mouth compared to the deluxe batmobile pack one. I've switched his head on my "main" Batman (Phantasm too, the one in the expression pack looks way better! The nose is perfect this time)

LOVE the idea of the bat for Harley! Good one!
Congrats on the new figures! Look sick all together!
Love Catwoman's pose!!!!

Speaking of the new MOTP Batman headsculpt. Seeing comparison shots of the old and new ones, I still think the old one is better, both in overall shape and especially the ears.
The new one's ears are shorter and thicker, sadly.
So at the end of the day, I prefer the original MOTP head.

 

[blebble]

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LOVE the idea of the bat for Harley! Good one!
Congrats on the new figures! Look sick all together!
Love Catwoman's pose!!!!

Speaking of the new MOTP Batman headsculpt. Seeing comparison shots of the old and new ones, I still think the old one is better, both in overall shape and especially the ears.
The new one's ears are shorter and thicker, sadly.
So at the end of the day, I prefer the original MOTP head.

Thanks man I try my best with poses but I need more space.. X_X I can't do what I have in mind for the moment, damn! xDD
About MOTP face I didn't noticed the hear shape xD You're right. I'm starting to get confused with all this Batman and different heads/faces xDD What I don't like about the original one was the nose, on mine was even more evident than others: it was kinda brutally chopped/scratched. The one I've found on the expression pack have a cool pointy nose and I've focused on that without looking at the ears xD Anyway all the expressions are really cool, if someone don't have a BTAS figure this is a must have imo

 

[DiFabio]

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I have both the MOTP Batman head and the new expressions pack one. The expressions pack head is better, it's also the best BTAS head DCC has done.

 

[World'sGreatestDetective]

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Thanks man I try my best with poses but I need more space.. X_X I can't do what I have in mind for the moment, damn! xDD
About MOTP face I didn't noticed the hear shape xD You're right. I'm starting to get confused with all this Batman and different heads/faces xDD What I don't like about the original one was the nose, on mine was even more evident than others: it was kinda brutally chopped/scratched. The one I've found on the expression pack have a cool pointy nose and I've focused on that without looking at the ears xD Anyway all the expressions are really cool, if someone don't have a BTAS figure this is a must have imo

LMAAAAO!! Too many Batman heads indeed.

If it wasn't for the new MOTP head's ears, I would be really down for it, but ever since I saw comparison shots, I've been like "nah, I prefer the first one". Lol

I have both the MOTP Batman head and the new expressions pack one. The expressions pack head is better, it's also the best BTAS head DCC has done.

Oh, so you must have gotten one with long and thin ears, then.

Sadly, in all shots I've seen of the new head, them ears are shorter and thicker compared to the old head's ears.

I was talking to SFA about it and said that will only get the expressions pack if the MOTP head has long and thin ears, like the original.

 

[DiFabio]

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I'll post comparison shots later.


It's about as much of an upgrade as the Batsignal Batman with painted lips and fuller eyes was to the crappy original BTAS Batman with the slit eyes, non-painted lips and breakable tight right hip

I figure the next BTAS Batman release will have finally gotten it all right, hopefully with the large Phantasm cape and/or a glider. It only have taken them 5+ tries.