DC RELAUNCHING entire Universe in September

[cjf28]

when i get a full long box, I give them to my nephews like my uncle used to give me his as a child. Im hoping it gets them excited for comics.

 

[The Ringer]

Always try craigslist.

 

[kobayashi93]

My short boxes sit in the corner of the bedroom, where they collect dust and scary ass bugs.

 

[Agent23]

Just read issue #2 of a couple of comics. I really like Batgirl and Green Lantern. Batman & Robin is ok, I think they're trying to hard w/Damien.

One book I have been really enjoying is Swamp Thing, it's got that Animan Man "dark" feeling to it. I'll definitely buy issue #3 of it.

How was Suicide Squad #2? I didn't add it to my pull list, then I was going to pick it up and the comic shop was sold out of it.

 

[cjf28]

Damien is the main reason I dont want to read Batman & Robin

 

[cjf28]

Just read issue #2 of a couple of comics. I really like Batgirl and Green Lantern. Batman & Robin is ok, I think they're trying to hard w/Damien.

One book I have been really enjoying is Swamp Thing, it's got that Animan Man "dark" feeling to it. I'll definitely buy issue #3 of it.

How was Suicide Squad #2? I didn't add it to my pull list, then I was going to pick it up and the comic shop was sold out of it.

enjoyed it alot. Squad already has its first casualty. Lead in to #3 says another one falls. And Previews for #4 says another bites it.

And Im really digging the new Harley

 

[IrishJedi]

Damien is the main reason I dont want to read Batman & Robin

He's a completely unlikable little twat. And he does something in issue #2 that makes him even more despicable.

Spoiler

Hint: it involves animal cruelty towards a live bat.

 

[devilof76]

He's definitely his mother's son.

 

[cjf28]

He's a completely unlikable little twat. And he does something in issue #2 that makes him even more despicable.

Spoiler

Hint: it involves animal cruelty towards a live bat.

yea, they are trying too hard.

we get it. He is a killer. He was raised by assassins. Yes, we know this . Stop beating the dead horse.

 

[Biojex]

He's a completely unlikable little twat. And he does something in issue #2 that makes him even more despicable.

Spoiler

Hint: it involves animal cruelty towards a live bat.

That's why I'm intrigued with this story. I'm interested to see how batman works with him and teaches him.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

enjoyed it alot. Squad already has its first casualty. Lead in to #3 says another one falls. And Previews for #4 says another bites it.

And Im really digging the new Harley

I'm pretty sure suicide squad is gonna be a revolving door

 

[sfa]

That's why I'm intrigued with this story. I'm interested to see how batman works with him and teaches him.

This is the main reason I'm avoiding B&R. I personally don't read Batman comics for turbulent father/son relationship drama. I really can't even get past the idea of Batman as a father, for me it's too unbefitting of the character.
I guess one could argue that with previous Robins that is exactly what we got - a father figure/son style scenario - but to me it always felt like more of a mentor/student relationship than actual family ties.

 

[Kabukiman]

Regarding Green Lantern #2 -

Spoiler

Is the ring Sinestro gave Hal a construct? It's not really explained all that well, unless I missed it. If it *is* a construct, then holy ____, that's kinda crazy. That should drain Sinestro's ring's power pretty quick. Also, it seems a bit far fetched. I know we're talking about a comic book about magic rings here, what's going on here is a bridge too far, imo.

If it's not a construct, then wtf is it? How did Sinestro make it?

Lastly, I really can't stand Hal. He's always been my least favorite GL, but he's really kind dumb and insufferable here.

I'm in until Sinestro is out, but I may have to walk away sooner depending on how much Hal is in #3...

 

[IrishJedi]

I agree with all of that, including your discussion within the SPOILER tag. Definitely intriguing. I hope it's explained in the book soon.

And you're also right about Hal. I don't know what Johns is up to with that character in the New 52, but so far it's coming across as if he resents him or something. He's even more unlikable in Justice League #1. This definitely is not the Hal Jordan I grew up with.

 

[Biojex]

This is the main reason I'm avoiding B&R. I personally don't read Batman comics for turbulent father/son relationship drama. I really can't even get past the idea of Batman as a father, for me it's too unbefitting of the character.
I guess one could argue that with previous Robins that is exactly what we got - a father figure/son style scenario - but to me it always felt like more of a mentor/student relationship than actual family ties.

I think that's why I'm so intrigued

I'm subscribed to the other batman comics as well, so I get my solo going Batman fix from those.

 

[The Mike]

Regarding Green Lantern #2 -

Spoiler

Is the ring Sinestro gave Hal a construct? It's not really explained all that well, unless I missed it. If it *is* a construct, then holy ____, that's kinda crazy. That should drain Sinestro's ring's power pretty quick. Also, it seems a bit far fetched. I know we're talking about a comic book about magic rings here, what's going on here is a bridge too far, imo. If it's not a construct, then wtf is it? How did Sinestro make it?

I guess I should answer within a spoiler since it isn't exactly noted that Spoilers are allowed.

Spoiler

Yes it is a construct. Johns has Sinestro wax poetically about how the ring can do anything yet Hal only uses it to fly and create stupid constructs, he fails to see the limitless power of the "most powerful weapon in the universe". So he creates a ring tied to his own because it makes Hal invisible to the Guardians and sipyhons directly from Sinestro's own will and power which is why he can turn it on and then off.

Lastly, I really can't stand Hal. He's always been my least favorite GL, but he's really kind dumb and insufferable here.

Here is the thing, there has been a way that the GLs have always been portrayed:

-Hal: Impulsive, reactionary, jock with a firm moral base except for his own life.
-John: Smart, calculated, wise with a sense of humanistic importance to his actions.
-Guy: Lazy, smartass, with a punch first, ask questions later kind of mentality. Inferiority complex, delusions of grandeur.
-Kyle: Sensitive, artistic, with a strong consideration of others over himself.

For the most part those types have been played with the GLs, but one thing that never has was the whole "limitless" power thing. Kyle got into it a bit but never fully flushed out or fully realized. It looks as if Johns is taking his opportunity with The New 52 to examine that. Sinestro has always believed in order but was played as a villain more than anything else.

It was Johns who was trying to redeem him since Rebirth almost and paint him as more of an anti-hero. He even changed his own Sinestro Corps as being more of a murderous lot to being crazy and misguided in his own quest for uniformity and order. So Sinestro is realizing that his own Corps have imprisoned Korguar so he is taking his new found strength to bring back balance to his own home planet. He is also taking this opportunity to show Hal how to fully utilize the ring. It's basically the buddy cop learning experience again. So Hal is being portrayed to his lesser more impetuous, uncontrolled self because it'll make his transformation into the "greater" hero much more dramatic. Johns is essentially cheapening his golden boy as a means to an end.

Spoiler

Even the incident on the bridge is a visual for that. Hal wants to jump and save the car with a construct, fly in to grab the girl, dividing his attention, dividing his strengths because it's the "cowboy" way of doing things. Sinestro instead uses one construct to not only grab the car and the girl but also grab the pieces of the bridge and place them back into the structure. One action to achieve everything, logistical and orderly instead of many motions that leaves an opening for error and failure. Hal is learning.

GL has always been kind of "What if you gave an architect a ring?", "What if you gave a smartass a ring?", "What if you gave an artist a ring?" well Hal has always been "What if you gave a hotshot a ring?", Johns is trying to evolve the character and I give him props for it although he is doing it rather formulaically.

 

[Buttmunch]

Regarding GL 2

Spoiler

Are you sure Hal's new ring is a construct? Sinestro had his own corp and they had their own rings. Its possible he still has the ability to creat rings right?

 

[The Mike]

Regarding that question:

Spoiler

The rings are created via the Central Power Battery, not the actual individuals. Even the Guardians forge the rings within it. The only difference is that in an emergency a ring can replicate for 24 hours but it becomes a deputized ring. Sinestro wouldn't have the ability to create rings himself, anyway the CPB of the SC would be required to create one of those particular rings. In order for a new GL ring to be created, it'd have to come from Oa, be issued to replace or be acquired to an existing sector and be acknowledged by the Guardians of the Universe. Sinestro wouldn't have the power to simply turn off a ring or else he would have done that to the Sinestro Corps members both in issue 1 or issue 2 instead of having to kill them, and if it were a deputy ring he would have absolutely no control over it since it'd be powered by the CPB on Oa. Now Sinestro can create a construct which is powered by his own will so essentially Jordan is tethered to him if he wants to use it.

Now it IS Johns so he could retconn all of the stuff out and make this status quo, but nothing has shown that he is doing that.

 

[The Mike]

He's a completely unlikable little twat. And he does something in issue #2 that makes him even more despicable. Hint: it involves animal cruelty towards a live bat.

yea, they are trying too hard. we get it. He is a killer. He was raised by assassins. Yes, we know this . Stop beating the dead horse.

You guys realize that it's a metaphor for Damien's whole bag of issues right? The bat symbolizes Bruce buzzing around, watching, critiquing but as he catches it, does away with it and tosses it, just like he claims to want to do with his father, he turns his head in saddness because it isn't what he really wants.

He spent his entire time with Grayson practically lamenting of never getting to meet his father and having a hard time dealing with what he considered leftovers. Now he has his father back and he is having a hard time dealing with the fact that he can't connect emotionally (he doesn't know how) but still seeing his father being playful with two of the Robins before him and that Bruce is so concerned about his bloodline he refuses to let Damien in.

He is treating Damien not as a son or even a partner but more a monsterous project that could break free and unleash onto Gotham at any time. The smartass, arrogant bull____ is a front to hide that he in reality is a little boy who just wants his father's approval, why else stick around as Robin? Why undergo things that he hates? It's not like he couldn't head back to Talia or even make it on his own if he wanted even at his young age with what he knows.

While his characteristics ARE unlikable, teaching this demographic has made me see the true _______s for the ones who want people to think they are but are made of glass and will shatter if pressed. Damien is definitely the latter and I'm loving the duality of Bruce and Damien's relationship compared to Batman and Robin's.

 

[cjf28]

Nice post. Put quite well. And I see your points. Even before you posted. But the continual whining just gets annoying.

I got two kids of my own, if I want to listen to that.