Dexter Discussion Thread *Spoilers*

[Frank]

Yeah, but Jennifer Carpenter has been consistently good throughout all 8 seasons. So I can't get behind his post. Sorry...

It's not necessarily about bad acting, it's bad material. To set her up with an incestuous desire for her brother (although yes they aren't blood related) was 100% against her character for me. Then she became an accessory to murder and did it in the dumbest way imaginable.

Jennifer is a great actress, but she probably should have jumped ship sooner. Given the divorce situation, I would have forgiven her.

 

[Chargersfan57]

It's not necessarily about bad acting, it's bad material. To set her up with an incestuous desire for her brother (although yes they aren't blood related) was 100% against her character for me. Then she became an accessory to murder and did it in the dumbest way imaginable.

Jennifer is a great actress, but she probably should have jumped ship sooner. Given the divorce situation, I would have forgiven her.

That whole incestuous story line was awful! You won't get any disagreement there. I liked her choosing her brother over laguerta and I enjoyed the scene in the shipping container.

The writing does suck, I will definitely give you that much.

 

[crows]

I'm thinking that Showtime is selfish and they worked out the ambiguous ending so that if need be, they can reconstitute a Dexter series. Showtime is without a doubt expecting a lot of cancellations of it's channel now that Dexter is over.

That way if they can't stand the money they're losing they can bring it back.

well then the people at Showtime must be retarded.

Why kill Zach Hamilton????? WHY???? WTF Showtime!!!!

I just keep getting angrier.... That character right there could have been used for a spin off or something. some people might think it's stupid, But I would have been okay with Zach being on a new show.

Specially when they are talking about giving Hannah the Spin off show...

 

[Frank]

That whole incestuous story line was awful! You won't get any disagreement there. I liked her choosing her brother over laguerta and I enjoyed the scene in the shipping container.

The writing does suck, I will definitely give you that much.

Yup. Bad writing killed her character off long before she got to the hospital. Her choosing Dexter over LaGuerta was simply a natural outcome of her allowing herself to be drawn in by Dexter's twisted logic.

If they really cared about her character, they'd never allow her to commit a crime like this just to help out a man who at that point in the game clearly needed to be locked up. Laguerta might have been a manipulative *****, but she was working to solve Doakes' murder which made her one of the annoying "good guys" you can't afford to kill if you want to stay the protagonist. He killed her to cover up his sloppy work and that put him squarely into the unremarkable ******* criminal category.

Deb wasn't the only character to be unrecognizeable come series finale. They didn't even try very hard to establish these changes either. There were twists just to have twists like some lame M Night film. A truly great series never forgets what makes its characters vital to begin with and goes through pains to keep that intact all the way up to the end.

 

[Chargersfan57]

Wait, you said it was natural but then you say they should have never allowed her to commit a crime like that... I'm trying to follow but I'm confused on your wording

If you're saying the writers basically crapped all over her character with one tragic storyline after another than you're right.

If you're saying that scene scene was crap because that decision she made should have never tooken place, then, well, .... I don't agree.

 

[CelticPredator]

Nothing in this show made any sense. Just accept this.

 

[Chargersfan57]

Lol



Wait, why am I laughing, this makes me sad. : (

 

[CelticPredator]

 

[Frank]

Derpster.

 

[Chargersfan57]

Is that Sideshow's new Dexter PF?

 

[a2themonster]

--her death was so big to him that it made him give up, essentially, his human side, and her death was proof, in his eyes, that he was just a monster, not meant for feelings, etc but simply a need that must be satiated. her death, meaning so much, is why he treats her as his last victim, etc...signaling his thoughts that hes responsible, and that it is his fault..him trying to blend in and be human caused her death, and he wont ever make the same mistake again with other loved ones. so he leaves them be, protecting them from their biggest possible threat-himself

 

[CelticPredator]

He already went through that 3 times since Rita. So why even bring it up again?

 

[a2themonster]

well he went thru it but it wasnt really cemented...when rita died he's still unsure of who he is- and this is where the writing drifted off...season 5 hes lovey dovey with lumen, season 6 is hannah but thats when they go in with this long arc of 'is he a monster' etc...now season 7 really pushes it but the theme that they chose to hammer home was is he this psychopath monster or could he graduate past the code and overcome his 'addiction' and be more and all that jazz. Now im not saying this is the best storyline/arc ever...no way- but if thats the theme they were going with...which it was...that was decided WAY BEFORE the finale episode. So given that THAT is your theme- is he a monster or isnt he-- last nights episode answered that tenfold and was thus a satisfying/good ending because it solved the question they were asking in a good way. Whether or not that was the question/theme that should have been asked is an entirely different conversation- and either way has no bearing on what the finale became.

 

[CelticPredator]

Except the show was about a serial killer who kills bad people, and plays a wolf in sheep's clothing. Not about love or feelings. Which is why, ultimately, the last 4 seasons of the show sucked. They missed the point of the show, and never added anything new to it.

Probably because they couldn't.

 

[a2themonster]

I agree they started to drift it off..but maybe 8 seasons of a wolf in sheeps clothing wouldve been jus as boring uk? I def agree that seasons 5 and 6 (GOD shoot me during 6) u saw a big drop off in terms of creativity and quality..season 7 I loved and I thought brought it back good...all of 8 seemed better than 5 & 6 but less than 7-- last nights episode was just as good as any episode we saw during season 7 and probably one of the better to best episodes in terms of doing something meaningful (granted it IS the series finale) than we've seen in the past 4 seasons, minimum.

 

[crows]

I can believe Dexter wanting to have feelings. I can believe Dexter starting to become a real boy.

I don' even hate the idea of Deb in love with her brother because that has happened in real life. So it is not even that far fetched.

What I cannot accept is the brain surgeon being the biggest bad Dexter had to face.
What I cannot accept is Vogel being the creator of the Code and making Harry seem like a clueless moron.

What I cannot accept is Hannah being the one that awaken Dexter to his feelings and made him a human. I cannot accept Harrison, he was too awful.

I cannot accept Masuka's Daughter. I cannot accept Brain Surgeon getting away so easily.

Dexter having real feelings. Fine by me. Dexter becoming Wolverine.... F____ THAT S________

 

[CelticPredator]

I don't think The Brain Surgeon was meant to be the greatest villain....but I can't accept Dexter wanting feelings they way they did it. Makes no sense.

 

[crows]

well what most people say is that he is like Pinocchio and he wanted to be a real boy.

So over the course of 8 seasons we see this change in Dexter. From marrying Rita to having a son, To try to get Trinity to teach him to be a real father and family man,
to trying to get a real friend with Miguel Prado, trying to find a soulmate with Lumen etc.

So, I could see that. I could see This series as Dexter's journey from wooden boy to real boy. Some people say that was the point of the show. And I don't fully disagree.

What I hate is how cheesy they did it. I hate Hannah, I hate that she came back.
I hate that Dexter would rather let Saxon go just because of Hannah. Like, what the F__ were these writers thinking? it's shocking to think about it.
They probably spent months working on this crap.....

 

[CelticPredator]

If it happened naturally, sure. But it didn't. And it was never the point of the show.

He did want to connect. But not in a normal way. In his own weird sociopathic way. He wanted someone to accept him for what he is.

That's why Lumen worked better then Hannah.

 

[crows]

yeah i agree.

I've always said I wish it was Lumen that came back for the end.