Dexter Discussion Thread *Spoilers*

[Kamandi]

A well written Dexter tv series would have left the title character taking his place next to Leatherface, Freddy, Micheal Myers and the great characters of horror.

Instead.... Harrison on the treadmill.

 

[die]

I think the treadmill was a hired hitman from the fitness guru cannibal Dexter stalked earlier in the season. It was supposed to attack Dexter.

Yeah, I know that sounded stupid but it's better than what we got.

 

[Kamandi]

The treadmill was more dangerous than Dexter this season.

 

[bloodgear]

Should have bought Cybex.

 

[Lejuan]

The series should've ended with Dexter at the bottom of the ocean. I thought him taking Debra out on the boat would be the set-up for that. I figured she'd take him out there or he'd be mortally wounded and throw himself in.

That's where I thought it was going, "Dexter is going to use Deb as a deadweight to carry them both to the ocean floor, symbolising etc etc".

Instead we get a DVD-cover portrait glare from Hall. Kinda reminded me of:

[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=to-F_MQTvCw[/ame]

 

[Chargersfan57]

The problem with the last four years is they came up with a premise for the season and they thought that's all they needed.

Season 5 - A rich, successful celebrity is dumping women's bodies and Dex finds a survivor. Dexter teaches her how to even the score.

That little bit doesn't sound too bad. It's what they did with it that was lame. Lumen would have been more interesting if they didn't just turn her into the next girlfriend.

If they left her as someone who was self-destructing and Dexter - messed up from Trinity killing Rita - is fine with her self destruction. He's not going to stop her, he's just going to make sure she gets what she wants in the process.

No, they couldn't leave it at that, they had to make her 'normal' again. She couldn't just go out in a blaze as a cautionary example to Dexter. She should have died (horribly) and left Dex thinking about the direction he's heading. Her final act should be something her thinks about whenever he has someone on the table.

Also... Evil Tony Robbins was stupid.

Season 6 - Doomsday killer. A serial killer uses disturbing biblical imagery, building towards a Judgment day involving Dexter.

They start off with an idea that could be decent, but have no idea how to deliver. Dexter going up against a "movie villian" should be epic, but this season is unfixable from top to bottom. I could waste my day talking about everything that's messed up this season. There's a split personality gag we all saw coming from miles away. A wasted opportunity to use EJO. CGI gore. Deb getting the hots for Dex. Harrison is clearly a burden for the writers at this point so they just have Angel's sister always with him.

But the last episode ends with Deb seeing Dexter perform a kill. This should have been a game changing event for the show.

um, yeah...

Season 7 - Sirko/Firebug

This season they did two story arcs, and the first one was pretty watchable. Ray Stevenson and the gay hitman looking to kill Dexter (who killed Sirko's lover). Quinn has a lame b-story that gets in the way. If the writers would focus the first 3/4 of this season would have been solid. Dexter goes after a Jigsaw killer style clone, also entertaining. The season really ends with Sirko's death, then there's 3 or 4 episodes about the firebug who just isn't that awesome. Also there's Hanna. Eyecandy, pointless character.

Deb totally wusses out and help Dex cover his tracks for last season. LaGuerta goes into irritating character overdrive. She's so unlikable Angel divoriced her - BETWEEN SEASONS!! When Deb has a gun pointed at her I remember thinking "DO IT!!!" At this point the show feels like it's gone past it's shelf life.

And of course season eight happened.

Season 8 - Who give a sh-t? Hey, let's build our major story arc around the most worthless character from last season, Hanna McCay!!!

Dexter becomes a secondary character on his own show. Musuko's daughter. Deb and her boss. Quinn trying to become captain and getting busy with Angel's sis. Angel waltzes back into his old job to find his ex-wife's killer, which he spends no time doing. Hanna shows up and poisons Dex and Deb "oops, sorry." Deb attempts to kill Dex - "oops, sorry". Dr. Vogel tries to bore the audience to death - "oops, sorry"

Lots of noise and running around, none of it feeling very important. Deb basically dies off screen of an emalism and Dex pulls the plug to finish the job. (I guess that real life divorice did leave some hurt feelings)

In the end Dexter fakes his death and Alfred finds him sipping tea in Florence. Looking like a lumberjack. Whatever. Talk about pulling stupid sh-t from your ***, what an ending.

When Scott Buck took over as head writer there should have been a plan. I'll never believe this was anything other than make it up as you go along.

At some point I'll re-watch seasons one and two, maybe four. But that's all. Watching this show felt like toughing it out rather than something I looked forward to.

Lesson learned - Next show I watch that takes a nosedive, I'm out. There was no return to greatness for this show, and audience loyalty was not rewarded.

I agree with just about everything except for everyone seeing the dual personality twist in season 6. Sorry I don't buy at all for a second that all, or even most people saw that twist coming.

I know quite a few people that watch dexter. And I do mean quite a few. And I literally know 1 person who saw that twist coming... One!!!

So a guarantee you that number that you assume saw the twist ahead of time is much smaller than you think. I think there are a lot of liars on the internet. That is season 6's saving grace.

 

[Lejuan]

When Kamandi says "we all", he means the very smart and astute watchers that frequent this thread

I confess I didn't see it coming, but that'd be more to do with how disengaged I was with the show at that point. I just didn't care. I was going through the motions because I like to see things out. Except for Lost. I bailed on that travesty pretty early on and never went back. But yeah, when the twist came it definitely lacked potency.

 

[Chargersfan57]

When he opened the freezer revealing Ghellar's body it floored me! I was in such shock an if anybody saw me face they would have told me to pick up my jaw off the floor.

I would always watch the episode before the rest of my family because they would always be busy on sundays, and being as big of a dexter fan that I was, I didn't ever have the patience to wait.

When we sat down as a family to watch it, I felt a bit of satisfaction knowing that I knew what was to come and they didn't. As the scene got close I could feel my heart race faster and I would occasionally glance at them to study their faces.

Their reactions were priceless. And at the end of the episode they were all like,....huh?!!!!! Wow,.......!!!!

It was then that I broke my "no internet rule for fear of spoilers" and I went online to see people's no doubt crazy reactions concerning the atom bomb that just blew up in our faces. Only to come face to face with a reviewer who said "the writing was on the wall" so to speak and the twist was .

 

[Lejuan]

I wish I had that response. The last time my jaw dropped was when the Trinity killer fronted up to Miami Metro with the "Hello Dexter Morgan" line.

Then of course the shock when Deb shot LaGuerta but that was kind of mitigated by my relief that she'd finally been killed off.

 

[Chargersfan57]

.....easily forseeable.

I got off the internet shortly after because partly because of his review, and partly from the few people here and there that were like, "OMG worst twist ever!".

The next few weeks at work I came across the other 20+ dexter fans that watch the show and EVERBODY had been stunned! People were SO excited to talk about it cause it was so crazy and awesome.

Now that's just my coworkers, I know friends outside of work plus family friends that watch Dexter. When I told them that according to to the internet and that reviewer the twist was easily seen everyone agreed that the reviewer is paid to dissect episodes and review them. He's looking for things when most people are watching the episodes for entertainment. And I agreed.

The one and ONLY person I know of that called the twist ahead of time is my mom's best friend's husband. He called it 3 or 4 episodes early I believe.

 

[Chargersfan57]

I wish I had that response. The last time my jaw dropped was when the Trinity killer fronted up to Miami Metro with the "Hello Dexter Morgan" line.

Then of course the shock when Deb shot LaGuertam but that was kind of mitigated by my relief that she'd finally been killed off.

Yeah, feel sorry for the people who saw the twist comming. Strictly because they didn't get to experience it the same way others did.

It was almost like reliving Rita's death all over again, (as far as shockers go) but on a bit off a smaller scale.

See, that's the thing... In real life the world seems floored with the twist and the dexter excitement is as high as ever but on the internet it was horrible and lame.

It makes me a bit suspicious when there's such a large disconnect. Something seems off...

On a side note one of my friends just got our other friend into the series. Poor girl doesn't know what she's in for for the last season and finale,...lol

 

[CelticPredator]

My reaction to Geller in the freezer.

 

[Chargersfan57]

Her and her boyfriend are currently mid season 3 and it will be interesting to hear what they think of the season 6 twist once they get to it.

I don't know why my my PS3 won't let me create one big post and instead insists on them being broken up! ARG So annoying!

 

[Chargersfan57]

That's a bummer celtic.

 

[crows]

I didn't know completely that Gellar was fake, but there were Too many hints that he was fake.

Like the coffee shop and how the girl kept ignoring him, everyone kept ignoring Gellar. That was too obvious, if you were a little bit smart you would figure out that people were ignoring Gellar when they were outside


I Was hoping the whole time that Gellar was actually real and that the twist was that he was real.

I also HATED that Gellar was fake because Colin Hanks was not strong enough to carry the season alone as the main villain.

He was just pretty pathetic as season 6 Big Bad. When it was both Gellar and Travis it was cool.

But once Travis was the only one, the season lost it all. There was no real tension, You didn't feel scared about Travis, he was too weak to go against Dexter.

 

[cokebabies]

My reaction to Geller in the freezer.

Yep.

With a hearty helping of

 

[crows]

You know, after seeing Gellar in that freezer.

And then trying to think of the entire season with Travis Being alone...

I couldn't buy everything he did. I could not accept that he was the one making all those kills and doing all that crap. Not only because some things seemed to need two people,

But because Travis was so weak, and he was so lame. That was the biggest problem for me,
That I could not buy Travis as the guy doing all those things. Then the series lost me

 

[Chargersfan57]

As with all twists there'll be those who see it coming. But those thinking that this twist could be generally categorized as obvious are quite wrong. I'm not necessary callin out any of you as lying. But I'd bet my future it surprised more than some people think.

This twist, along with a few others, will go down as some of dexters most brilliant scenes/surprises through it's lifetime.

Too bad dexter had to end on rough seas so to speak...

 

[crows]

As with all twists there'll be those who see it coming. But those thinking that this twist could be generally categorized as obvious are quite wrong. I'm not necessary callin out any of you as lying. But I'd bet my future it surprised more than some people think.

This twist, along with a few others, will go down as some of dexters most brilliant scenes/surprises through it's lifetime.

Too bad dexter had to end on rough seas so to speak...

dude. Travis was eating and the waitress doesn't even look at Gellar.
she completely ignores him,
the same thing happened in other scenes. When Gellar was talking to Travis on the street, same thing, any time Travis was with Gellar and other people were around, they never acknowledge Gellar.

I mean, seriously?

Besides Travis having an imaginary friend was not brilliant. it was cheesy, it was a M Night Shaymalan type of twist. Unnecessary. stupid. pointless.

Nothing good came out of that twist. Except Dexter realizing "Travis has his own dark Passenger" or whatever

And, the twist might be good the first time you see it.

But it is also NOT brilliant because on second viewing you realize how stupid it was.

 

[Kamandi]

Giant Chicken was the first person here to float the theory of Gellar being Travis's "Harry" - https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3889980#post3889980

If you follow that link and read for a bit you'll see how everyone who was part of this thread at the time saw it.

Honestly I was disappointed. I thought it would be more interesting if Travis and Geller were a Hillside Strangler style duo.