Dexter Discussion Thread *Spoilers*

[CelticPredator]

You're right

 

[Devil_666]

 

[CelticPredator]

That's not what you said! My brain says otherwise.

It also tells me to burn down a preschool....oh that brain.

 

[Devil_666]

Dis meens wharr....

 

[die]

pinning Liddy's murder on Chase makes absolutely no sense.

pinning it on Quinn is a perfect way to get that jackass off the show.

and I hope Lumen doesn't die, even though that seems like the direction its going in.

The blood on the shoe is just too obvious. Why would Dexter need to pin it on Quinn if the blood is already on his shoe?

By pinning the murder on Chase, then killing Chase, it's an easily resolved case. Pinning it on Quinn means sending the man his sister loves to prison for the rest of his life. I don't really think Dexter sees Quinn as a big problem anymore, but that may change. I think Dexter will probably pin it on Chase and then the blood on his shoe will come back to bite Quinn.

 

[SwedishHeat]

My initial thought was just that Quinn will notice the blood on his shoe later, and go back out to the van and start putting the pieces together.

I think a scene in which Batista/Deb/LaGuerta notices blood on Quinn's shoe and then that ends up leading to Quinn's arrest is just a bit silly.

 

[ShadowX81]

The blood on the shoe is just too obvious. Why would Dexter need to pin it on Quinn if the blood is already on his shoe?

By pinning the murder on Chase, then killing Chase, it's an easily resolved case. Pinning it on Quinn means sending the man his sister loves to prison for the rest of his life. I don't really think Dexter sees Quinn as a big problem anymore, but that may change. I think Dexter will probably pin it on Chase and then the blood on his shoe will come back to bite Quinn.

But it makes no sense. The Chase and Liddy storylines are completly connected, with them not even knowing eachother. There is no way that Chase could get the murder pinned on him with no motive, opportunity, or evidence.

 

[Dark Passenger]

But it makes no sense. The Chase and Liddy storylines are completly connected, with them not even knowing eachother. There is no way that Chase could get the murder pinned on him with no motive, opportunity, or evidence.

Sure it does. If they find a way to make it seem that Liddy was spying on Chase, which will most likely happen knowing this show.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

He's a serial killer bro.

The only reason he kills "criminals" and not random "innocent" people is because his adopted father/mentor Harry (a cop BTW) made it a rule. Since Harry knew cops wouldn't go that extra mile to find/investigate missing scum bags. But make no mistake, Dexter is no different than any other serial killer/murderer. No different than John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, etc.



Quinn's still a dirty cop.

That's a weak argument and a cop out. ALL the discussion in here suspends disbelief, so why pull the "It's a TV show" now!? If that's the case there's no need to discuss any aspect of Dexter because its just a TV show. Will Dexter get caught? Who cares, it's a TV show. Why did Dexer do this or that? Who cares, it's a TV show.

Yes to all of this. The only thing that makes Dexter different from the normal serial killer is that he kills criminals. I also cannot wait until next Sunday for the end of the season. So far it's been one hell of a ride.

 

[mattman6886]

He's a serial killer bro.

The only reason he kills "criminals" and not random "innocent" people is because his adopted father/mentor Harry (a cop BTW) made it a rule. Since Harry knew cops wouldn't go that extra mile to find/investigate missing scum bags. But make no mistake, Dexter is no different than any other serial killer/murderer. No different than John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, etc.



Quinn's still a dirty cop.

Yes to all of this. The only thing that makes Dexter different from the normal serial killer is that he kills criminals. I also cannot wait until next Sunday for the end of the season. So far it's been one hell of a ride.

No way!

Do we watch the same show??

A HUGE part of the show, in fact the overlying theme of the show, is Dexter's morality. Slowly revealing that Dexter actually cares about people. That he is not the emotionless killer from season 1, with a code that keeps him from killing innocent people just so he won't get caught. Harry made him believe that instead of actually helping him because that was the only way he knew how to raise him. The show is about Dexter's realization, through his bonds with those around him, that he's actually a good person inside, who was messed up by witnessing his mother's death and was further misguided by his foster father.

 

[CelticPredator]

Dis meens wharr....

Awwwahh...poore bahbee....YAHHUHHHAHh

 

[CelticPredator]

Dexter's a good guy. If you disagree, then the show didnt do it's job for you.

 

[cokebabies]

The blood on the shoe is just too obvious. Why would Dexter need to pin it on Quinn if the blood is already on his shoe?

By pinning the murder on Chase, then killing Chase, it's an easily resolved case. Pinning it on Quinn means sending the man his sister loves to prison for the rest of his life. I don't really think Dexter sees Quinn as a big problem anymore, but that may change. I think Dexter will probably pin it on Chase and then the blood on his shoe will come back to bite Quinn.

Or the blood will make it pinned on Quinn initially, and Dexter will try to pin it on Chase.

I honestly don't see Dexter doing anything to screw Quinn, unless ABSOLUTELY necessary for his freedom.

 

[Seditionary]

No way!

Do we watch the same show??

A HUGE part of the show, in fact the overlying theme of the show, is Dexter's morality. Slowly revealing that Dexter actually cares about people. That he is not the emotionless killer from season 1, with a code that keeps him from killing innocent people just so he won't get caught. Harry made him believe that instead of actually helping him because that was the only way he knew how to raise him. The show is about Dexter's realization, through his bonds with those around him, that he's actually a good person inside, who was messed up by witnessing his mother's death and was further misguided by his foster father.

a agree with this for the most part. I think that another point of the show is to get you to find a serial killer likeable or good even..Fact of the matter is, he kills people. I also wouldn't say that Harry misguided him really...I think that dexter had to evolve from that in order to grow as a person and to stay away from prison and death.

The tv/reality thing is certainly an arguement to be had, but don't forget that dexter is still capable of chopping up bodies and stuffing them into little garbage bags...this is what drove his father to kill himself. Although he is good, he is still detached from us. In comparison to other popular characters, hes more similar to leatherface then he is to the punisher or even the joker.



What I've been thinking is... he is killing "innocent people" more and more and isn't making much of a fuss over it anymore. He's becoming further removed from harrys code just to help Lumen in the "i spit on your grave" plotline. I really like how things evolved with him and Lumen this season...but what happens next if they both get out of this alright and not in jail? Will dexter continue to kill with lumen and submit to harrys code once again? Will the code change from serial murderers to serial rapists also?

And has he been cutting up the bodies with Lumen?? If so...they really do have "serious ____"

 

[CelticPredator]

We all watch action movies where heroes like Stallone, Arnold, and James Bond kill HUNDREDS of people in a film. What makes them different then Dexter? They do the same thing, kill people without (mostly) regret. All of them are just as evil as the people Dexter kills. Only difference is, Dexter is a bit more messed up in his "rituals", but it's the same thing.

 

[Devil_666]

We all watch action movies where heroes like Stallone, Arnold, and James Bond kill HUNDREDS of people in a film. What makes them different then Dexter? They do the same thing, kill people without (mostly) regret. All of them are just as evil as the people Dexter kills. Only difference is, Dexter is a bit more messed up in his "rituals", but it's the same thing.

It's not the same thing. It's not even remotely close.

Real Life:

Comparing them is like comparing a military soldier/cop that kills people in the line of duty to a serial killer that kills for their own sick and twisted pleasure i.e. Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, The Hillside Stranglers, etc.

Fantasy/Entertainment:

Every single action movie you can name featuring Arnold, Sly or 007, etc. features a protagonist that's motivated to take down the evil enemy/bad guy.

007 - Spare time he bangs chicks and jet sets. Kills in the line of duty for his country.

Arnie/Sly - Most of their hero characters are usually family men/cops/soldiers that end up killing people because of some specific event that triggers it i.e. trying to take down the movie's villain.

Dexter is completely different. Dexter kills strictly for pleasure. That's his hobby. His entire life revolves around killing people. Every facet of his life is a lie and is only in place to hide the fact that he's a serial killer. He actually goes through withdrawal-like symptoms when he doesn't kill for a long period.

You seriously can't distinguish the two!?

 

[DinoLast]

I watched the Preview for the next episode and that is definitely Dexter dropping the knife, but I wonder if Deb is pointing the gun and telling Quinn not to move?

 

[hairlesswookiee]

No way!

Do we watch the same show??

A HUGE part of the show, in fact the overlying theme of the show, is Dexter's morality. Slowly revealing that Dexter actually cares about people. That he is not the emotionless killer from season 1, with a code that keeps him from killing innocent people just so he won't get caught. Harry made him believe that instead of actually helping him because that was the only way he knew how to raise him. The show is about Dexter's realization, through his bonds with those around him, that he's actually a good person inside, who was messed up by witnessing his mother's death and was further misguided by his foster father.

And I agree with everything you just mentioned. However none of this changes the fact that he's a serial killer. He's just a well liked serial killer.

 

[die]

I like the idea of Dexter helping Quinn out, maybe altering the blood sample so it doesn't nail Quinn, thus saving both of them. Very interested to see how this plays out.

It's not the same thing. It's not even remotely close.

Real Life:

Comparing them is like comparing a military soldier/cop that kills people in the line of duty to a serial killer that kills for their own sick and twisted pleasure i.e. Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, The Hillside Stranglers, etc.

Fantasy/Entertainment:

Every single action movie you can name featuring Arnold, Sly or 007, etc. features a protagonist that's motivated to take down the evil enemy/bad guy.

007 - Spare time he bangs chicks and jet sets. Kills in the line of duty for his country.

Arnie/Sly - Most of their hero characters are usually family men/cops/soldiers that end up killing people because of some specific event that triggers it i.e. trying to take down the movie's villain.

Dexter is completely different. Dexter kills strictly for pleasure. That's his hobby. His entire life revolves around killing people. Every facet of his life is a lie and is only in place to hide the fact that he's a serial killer. He actually goes through withdrawal-like symptoms when he doesn't kill for a long period.

You seriously can't distinguish the two!?

So, the "action" stars of those movies aren't similar to Dexter as the "Dark Defender" or the "Bay Harbor Butcher" ?

I mean, they even draw the comparisons within the show.

Dutch wasn't smiling when he stabbed a knife through a guy and said "Stick Around" in Predator?

John McClane seemed to be smiling the whole time he was killing and taunting terrorists, right?...


These action stars enjoy killing with that "job well done" type of satisfaction just as much as Dexter does and his heroic qualities, much like those of action stars, are that he does what he does out of a sense of what is right and values the innocent (as seen for his disgust of people hurting children or women). History has shown us that homicidal tendencies can be channeled...you definitely have to have something inside of you to be able to pull that trigger when you're a cop or a soldier...or to pull that lever or push that button when you're the person responsible for carrying out a death sentence on somebody. That killer instinct, you know...

To me Dexter is a kind of a mix of Dark Knight Detective and Punisher, that's a huge draw for me.

I agree with the people who are talking about how people miss the point on the show, Dexter is definitely human and definitely has emotions. He's definitely got some serious issues, but that trait is also pretty human. Still some people think he really sees Harry and that somebody is going to catch him talking to Harry, even though the show has made it very clear that Harry is just Dexter's conscience.

 

[Seditionary]

I think everyone has really great points.

I still think that the level of butchering he does to each victim is a point of consideration for whether or not he is like those action stars...Rambo might cut someone in half with a machine gun, but he doesn't spend 3 hours chopping the body into clean sections to stuff in a bag. The point is that now he fits so cleanly into what exactly he is. If dexter was having sex with the dead bodies, then he wouldn't be as likable, but he is still the serial killer type.

I love this show, and I love dexter and I don't feel the least bit bad about that whatsoever.