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That hulk should be Shai's new avatar lol
I agree!!! :lol:lol

The muppets have always been associated with music and singers I think. Disney's stars may not be the same level as they were before so it is a step down, but at least the muppets are still getting some love.

You know, unlike a lot of people, I liked what Henson Co. was doing after Jim passed away, I enjoyed TI and CC, but Muppets WOO and Letter to Santa, were painful to watch... and seeing them on commercials and Good Morning America sucks balls...
There's rumors that the Muppetvision will be gone from both parks soon...
I really think Disney doesn't care that much about the Muppets...
you only see merchandise but not new projects...
Only gimmicky appearances on crappy Disney Channel shows...
that's not love... that's pity sex... :monkey2

I don't see this as good because I do not like Pixar movies at all, I know thats not going to earn me any friends around here, but I think their incredibly overrated.

That's gotta be the first time I see these two words in the same sentence...
Are you crazy??!!! :horror

I'm also recalling how the Muppets were whored out to Pizza Hut a couple years ago :monkey4

Sad times for the Muppets indeed... :(

The Muppets are almost never seen (yes there are big versions of Kermit and Piggy you can take pictures with) and if they are they are at DHS and DCA.

Ugh... I remember seeing those in Orlando...
I was like WTF??... Why can't they have muppeteers walking around with the actual Muppets?....
Lame...


Anyway... I understand why hardcore Marvel fans are concerned...
I like Disney's stuff a lot, but as I said before,
they too have some lame concepts...
We'll see how this develops over time...
 
You know, unlike a lot of people, I liked what Henson Co. was doing after Jim passed away, I enjoyed TI and CC, but Muppets WOO and Letter to Santa, were painful to watch... and seeing them on commercials and Good Morning America sucks balls...
There's rumors that the Muppetvision will be gone from both parks soon...
I really think Disney doesn't care that much about the Muppets...
you only see merchandise but not new projects...
Only gimmicky appearances on crappy Disney Channel shows...
that's not love... that's pity sex... :monkey2

You obviously haven't kept up. Jason Segal; from How I Met Your Mother, I Love You Man, Forgetting Sarah Marshall; is currently penning a new script. He has been a lifelong Muppets fan and after his Dracula puppet routine in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Disney contacted him to create a new film. He has turned in three possible scripts and has said he wants it to be in the same vein as "The Great Muppet Caper" or "The Muppet Movie" and not a remake of another property just with the Muppets.

Also they are posed to be the lynchpin in the 2010 promotionals for Disney Parks, Muppeteers were at Disneyland the last couple of weeks filming commericals which contained the Muppets going on various attractions and rides, there are pictures everywhere. There are also rumors that Muppet Vision is going to be reshot to have a new show premiere to tie into new film and the new exposure.

The Muppets haven't gone anywhere...they were just lying in wait.
 
I've heard that Disney has already cancelled the Wolverine comics and that they will be toning down Venom intensely. Start buying those back issues because they will be worth lots of money in the future.

please tell me your joking:monkey2 its not funny
 
Although, I never got into the MAX line because it got too sadistic for my taste, I collected Punisher for close to 20 years. That said, I have read SOME of the Punisher MAX line and Disney isn't going to let the Ennis rape, sex/suicide, and graphic torture be attached to anything they produce. If you think Disney is going to allow a comic, that they own, show a woman getting her nipples cut off and and then shooting herself in the head as she has sex (which happened in a MAX comic), you don't know Disney.

Don't get me wrong, I think the current revamp of Punisher is going to continue, but I would expect the violence to be turned down to late 90's levels or the Punisher War Journel levels.


Some things are just... unnecessarily excessive. and sometimes NOT showing it is much more powerful than showing things like that.
The original Alien, and the First jaws were both Far more frightening because you saw so Little of the thing. I feel scenes like that work better when you only get a little glimpse of it, and your imagination fills in the rest.
Scenes like that, and Movies with scenes like that Bore the crap out of me, and show, in my opinion, a LACK of creativity, as the artist/ director is simply going for shock Value at that point.

Good lord, the Gratuitous Sex in True blood during the first season is A pain as well.
Excessive violence, hardcore sex, etc, leaveit out. It comes across as the creator having a Beavis and butthead moment ( "heh heh heh, Blood" etc etc )


In ALL of those instances give me a "Boot Scene"

For those unfamilior with a boot scene

Remember back to the classic star trek, kirk is seducing some alien woman, and she goes into his bed, and he is taking off his bots. Cut to spock and bones on the bridge, cut tosome other event, then cut back to Kirk, in his room, the woman on his bed, kirk with his shirt off is pulling on his boots. They didn't show it, bit we know what took place.

In terms of the scene above in the Max comic, A shot of a building exterior, panting sounds, groans, Screaming, and a gunshot accompanied by a window lighting up from the muzzle flare.
The next scene we have a few detectives looking into it, and discussing the crime scene, where the event is DESCRIBED. No, it's not the same, but If you NEEED the violence of that nature in your comic, you may want to consider taking a carful look at your views on things. Yes, Free speach and all that, but one wonders where to draw the line. The scene in the comic is little better than a "snuff Porn" film. What's next for the max comics Pedophelia?


I don't see this as good because I do not like Pixar movies at all, I know thats not going to earn me any friends around here, but I think their incredibly overrated.

This intrigues me. If you're going to make such a statement as thus, You're going to need to tell us WHY you feel that it's overrated.
 
You obviously haven't kept up. Jason Segal; from How I Met Your Mother, I Love You Man, Forgetting Sarah Marshall; is currently penning a new script. He has been a lifelong Muppets fan and after his Dracula puppet routine in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Disney contacted him to create a new film. He has turned in three possible scripts and has said he wants it to be in the same vein as "The Great Muppet Caper" or "The Muppet Movie" and not a remake of another property just with the Muppets.

Also they are posed to be the lynchpin in the 2010 promotionals for Disney Parks, Muppeteers were at Disneyland the last couple of weeks filming commericals which contained the Muppets going on various attractions and rides, there are pictures everywhere. There are also rumors that Muppet Vision is going to be reshot to have a new show premiere to tie into new film and the new exposure.

The Muppets haven't gone anywhere...they were just lying in wait.


I knew about the new script already...
but much like Ghostbusters 3, I'll get excited when I see a trailer... ;)

Same for the Muppet rumors on parks and Muppetvision...
Please understand that Muppet fans have been constantly let down with all this rumors and plans and nothing actually happening... except for the crappy projects mentioned before...
I've heard about the 2010 Muppet plans...
Hopefully we'll learn more during D23... but for now, I remain skeptical... :peace
 
does anybody see micky as captain america, goofy as iron man and donald as thor lol
 
does anybody see micky as captain america, goofy as iron man and donald as thor lol

Those are as much an abomination as Jedi Mickey and Darth Goofy. ESPN and ABC are already complete crap networks, just a matter of time before they make Marvel lame too.
 
Re: So much for our brloved Marvel Movies

yeah keep reading below.

Hey genius, I was replying to something you wrote that you obviously forgot. I will quote it AGAIN:

and there goes the notion of ever getting another R rated Marvel movie.

I'd like you to give me some examples of these R-rated "kid properties" that are now endangered, because the concept is absolutely fascinating.

In the years to come as the existing deals with companies like New Line and Lionsgate come to an end a property like "Punisher" or "Blade" would easily find its way to a Disney subsidiary like Miramax or even Touchstone.

There are obvious examples where Disney has been less-than-supportive when it came to releasing a controversial movie ("Dogma" and "Fahrenheit 9/11" being huge examples) but they've never had a problem releasing genre material that is firmly in "R" territory.
 
Those are as much an abomination as Jedi Mickey and Darth Goofy. ESPN and ABC are already complete crap networks, just a matter of time before they make Marvel lame too.

You say that like Marvel hasn't already gone down the ^^^^ter...The only good stuff coming from them nowadays are the movies.
 
Seeing Mickey Mouse dressed as Captain America or Donald Duck dressed as Iron Man is no less ridiculous than seeing a Transformer that makes The Hulk a large tank or Carnage into a Sports car. No less ridiculous than seeing The Spectacular Spider-Spud on the shelves. :rolleyes:
 
Seeing Mickey Mouse dressed as Captain America or Donald Duck dressed as Iron Man is no less ridiculous than seeing a Transformer that makes The Hulk a large tank or Carnage into a Sports car. No less ridiculous than seeing The Spectacular Spider-Spud on the shelves. :rolleyes:

Or Bearz. I'm not kidding, these things are real.
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Nikki Finke has covered the details of this on her blog. Finke is an authority on Hollywood. Be aware though, the language can be, er, direct? So anyone sweet and innocent should stick to reading the extracts below.

The entire thing is on my blog on these boards but here are the key points:


Universal's current attractions are safe, as are the themed eateries/shops. Any Marvel characters not used presently by Universal will most certainly not be used from here on. The walk-around characters that are not connected to an attraction or eatery could be in danger, as that clause is more easily manipulated. The use of the characters for walk-around is usually a separate contract than the rides/overall naming rights, and is usually much more flexible. So these could be the first to go in the years to come.

Privately, Universal execs told me they've got the Marvel characters "until the end of time if we want them" and used phrases like "in perpetuity". But here's the rub: a Universal insider tells me the theme parks only retain the existing characters it's already made use of. Sure there are Spider-Man and Hulk attractions, but what about the bulk of the 5,000 Marvel characters? Are those Disney's now?

...Universal theme parks have a long-term licensing deal with Marvel that gives Universal exclusive rights for Marvel characters east of the Mississippi for theme park use.

For specific characters/properties (i.e., ones where Universal has invested a huge amount of money, like the Spider-Man ride), the Universal/Marvel licenses are virtually in perpetuity and will outlast the rides themselves. My insiders predict that Disney will try to buy those characters out in the distant future -- probably when the rides are changed/closed or the entire Marvel Island is changed/closed.

Also, she has a post exploring Iger's long desire for this deal - which is also on my Blog.
 
Seeing Mickey Mouse dressed as Captain America or Donald Duck dressed as Iron Man is no less ridiculous than seeing a Transformer that makes The Hulk a large tank or Carnage into a Sports car. No less ridiculous than seeing The Spectacular Spider-Spud on the shelves. :rolleyes:

Those things are all just plain awful.

I know firsthand that Disney is a terrible company, and know hundreds of other current/former employees that say the same. You can't trust anything that Disney says.
 
Those things are all just plain awful.

I know firsthand that Disney is a terrible company, and know hundreds of other current/former employees that say the same. You can't trust anything that Disney says.

Wow. I don't know hundreds of anybody. You must get up very early.
 
:mwaha I had the exact same thought.

How much longer until this thread becomes a Disney freaks vs. Diseny haters thread?
 
Not really. The entertainment industry is pretty small, I see several roadies more often than my family.
 
For every person who says they are rip off artists you'll find one that says they are a great company to work for. The bad stories are just more interesting to recycle. I know quite a few people that work for Marvel and a couple of them really hated it there. Same old stories, some very shocking especially the ones that worked at the Theme Parks in management and a few loved and still love working there.

Its funny to hear them argue amongst each other. Personally, I'm just going to wait and judge the combination by what actually occurs from it. Too much hearsay to go any other way.
 
I doubt there is any company that everyone loves working for. There's always going to be people who hate their employer. I know I hate mine. And I'm sure Disney has screwed people over, which makes me sad, but I think that's par for every company in the world and I think its a statement on humanity moreso than an individual company.
 
https://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/
Behind-The-Scenes Of Disney-Marvel Deal
EXCLUSIVE: The first thing you should know is that Bob Iger has comic books in his blood. And the second thing you should know is that his ties to Marvel go back two generations. His late great-uncle (his grandfather's brother) was illustrator/cartoonist Jerry Iger, who partnered with illustrator/cartoonist Will Eisner back in the 1930s to create -- you guessed it -- the comic book packager Eisner & Iger Studios. I couldn't make up this stuff if I tried... (Blackthorne Publishing has released three compilations of Jerry Iger-related comics: The Iger Comics Kingdom, Jerry Iger's Classic Jumbo Comics, Jerry Iger's Classic National Comics, and Jerry Iger's Golden Features. Will Eisner is no relation to Michael Eisner.) And their first hire was Jack Kirby, who as you know later became the co-creator of many of Marvel's best known characters with Stan Lee. So Bob Iger had an unusually rich appreciation for the comic book biz dating back to his childhood when his great-uncle would draw for him. Fast forward to Monday's Disney-Marvel deal, which I've learned was 10 years in conception, and three months in negotiation between Iger and Ike Perlmutter for the 7,000 Marvel characters -- that's right, 7,000, not the 5,000 number every media outlet keeps reporting including me.

I'm told that, back in the 1990s, when Michael Eisner ran Disney and Bob Iger was his No. 2 (a teaming I liked to call FrankenEisner and Igor back then), the moguls had on-again, off-again coversations about acquiring Marvel. But there was never any attempt at a negotiation because "the brand didn't seem Disney," as a source tells me. Once Iger took over Disney as CEO, and recently embarked on its stock buyback, the Big Media company found itself sitting on excess cash even after investing in Pixar and everything else. That's when the troika of Iger, Tom Staggs, Sr EVP/CFO, and Kevin Mayer, EVP of Corporate Strategy, Business Development and Technology Group, stepped up their look for growth opportunities. And Marvel came up again, this time much more seriously. Iger even discussed this directly with his division heads. It's a testament to Disney's limitless penchant for secrecy that even though about a dozen people knew Disney had decided to go after Marvel, there was no leak.

In June, Iger flew to New York to meet with CEO Ike Perlmutter in his Marvel office. In a show of transparency, Iger had already let the wily but no-nonsense Israeli (who'd beaten back two billionaires, Ron Perelman and Carl Icahn, for control of Marvel) know that Disney was interested in buying Marvel and wanted to start negotiating. ("It would have been manipulative if I'd approached it any other way," Iger told a pal. "You know how that goes. Someone invites you for dinner. And, after a glass of wine, he tells you he wants to buy you. And the wine never tastes quite as good after that.")

But Perlmutter expressed little interest in a deal, even though he liked Disney and all that the name, company, branding, implied. "I've heard good things about Disney. But I don't need to sell. I don't want to sell," Perlmutter told Iger, according to my insiders. But, eventually, Iger got to the heart of Perlmutter's objection: Ike didn't want to retire. He wanted to continue to work because Marvel was what he loved.

As due diligence went on, Disney saw nothing in Marvel's books that indicated Marvel was under financial pressure or Perlmutter had any need to sell. So the price had to be right. From June to Sunday night, both sides eventually became "more comfortable" with the $4 billion valuation, according to my insiders. A little math shows that Perlmutter, who owns 37% of his public company, stands to reap $1.5 billion in cash and stock. Sources tell me that this sell-out has been Perlmutter's strategy all along. "This was always an acquisition play for Ike," one insider explains to me. "This deal with Disney just ups his game and creates shareholder value and lets him walk away a billionaire."

Content-wise, the two moguls agreed that Marvel would continue to operate independently of the notoriously micro-managing Disney in the same way that Miramax did under the Weinstein Brothers. Though that probably won't make even hardcore fanboys feel better about the deal they're pissing on all over the Internet yesterday and today. (Given what Iger likes to refer to as the "combustion of digital word of mouth" that operates these days, Iger and Perlmutter have their work cut out for them trying to get skeptical fanboys to believe that Disney has no intention of altering the creative approach which Marvel takes to its comic books and movies. Of course, it helps the corporate confluence between the two companies that Marvel's movie fare has been and will be "PG-13".)

Every subsequent meeting between Iger and Perlmutter took place in NY. Finally, it was late Sunday night, very late, that the deal was done. There was no celebration. Both moguls went back to their respective homes to get ready for Monday's early morning announcement.

One more thing you should know: I've learned that, for the past 2 months, Iger has been reading the new Marvel Encyclopedia to soak up the backstories of all the Marvel characters and comics.
 
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