Doctor Who - Spoilers!

[N2k-swb]

Subject to ratings of her own show the next companion I'd kill off would be Sarah Jane as it would have the biggest impact on both the Doctor and the audience.

If the Master was brought back and played by someone who actually looked like a convincing bad guy I think it'd be the perfect way to restore some of the characters original menace.

Failing that the new Daleks should do it.

She would have to come back over to Doctor Who for a few shows just to ween her in then BAM! dead!
I thought John Simm was a great enemy but it got so silly when he turned into the Who equivilent of Darth sideous with his force lightening. Plus i always thought the Docotrs rise from being years old in the last of the time lords and floating around before using his big weapon of 'i forgive you' was the cheesiest thing i had seen.

 

[Kabukiman]

Killing off a companion would be kind of difficult because then The Doctor would probably go into "no-companion mode" again. You'd need two to make it work, I think. One to die, the other to keep the show moving.

 

[pixletwin]

I agree that the Silver Nemesis Cybies look far better and far more menacing than the new series cybusmen.

 

[bcm77]

Killing off a companion would be kind of difficult because then The Doctor would probably go into "no-companion mode" again. You'd need two to make it work, I think. One to die, the other to keep the show moving.

Long term perhaps, but "The Deadly Assassin" is one of the top 5 stories ever and the Doctor was flying solo in that one.

N2k-swb,
I reckon SJ's demise could make a nice 2-parter, but while her own series is doing so well it's not going to happen.

As shocking it would still be I don't think killing off Amy would work quite so well as she's not been there long enough for anyone aside from the usual "clear your history" types to care that much about.

I think John Simm was even less convincing a Master than his opposite number was as the Doctor, even before all the cheese kicked in. One of numerous examples of bad casting by RTD.

 

[William Shatners Toupee]

You guys are so brutal with wanting companion death! (laugh). I was like that in my teens after Adric, but that was mostly because I had to deal with new companions like Mel and Peri then! (laugh) I agree it would just make the Doctor grim and companion less and Moff is trying to go back to the (fun spirited) basics with the show.

I'm not saying this is his goal, but if there are two companions (with Rory or whomever) by the end of the current series, it might feel nice in a continuing reto-Troughton crew sort of way. He's even got a Scot in a dress!

 

[bcm77]

You guys are so brutal with wanting companion death! (laugh). I was like that in my teens after Adric, but that was mostly because I had to deal with new companions like Mel and Peri then! (laugh) I agree it would just make the Doctor grim and companion less and Moff is trying to go back to the (fun spirited) basics with the show.

I'm not saying this is his goal, but if there are two companions (with Rory or whomever) by the end of the current series, it might feel nice in a continuing reto-Troughton crew sort of way. He's even got a Scot in a dress!

I think it comes from having just finished an era where the good guys were so indestructible that not even a nuke in the face would have stopped them.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

The new Daleks look ridiculus! I really liked the gold design

 

[Valfar]

I agree that the Silver Nemesis Cybies look far better and far more menacing than the new series cybusmen.

Hell, i hate the new Cybermen

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[d_jedi1]

Adric's death was the best thing to ever happen on the show.
It was an emotional ride for the cast of characters, and a good way to remove an annoyng pest from a good show
I hated Adric I often joke with friends that Earthshock was the best episode ever (even though thats not entirely true...)
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unless it's this version

 

[N2k-swb]

I think it comes from having just finished an era where the good guys were so indestructible that not even a nuke in the face would have stopped them.

That is true, if rose had died before the doctor could say supposedly 'i love you' which thank god he never got too, i would of cared so much more about that moment rather than ah well shes just stuck a bit bet il see her again. its just a nice shock to shake things around a bit after what 5 years of no one dying, its like Heroes or the A-team no one ever dies!

 

[bcm77]

That is true, if rose had died before the doctor could say supposedly 'i love you' which thank god he never got too, i would of cared so much more about that moment rather than ah well shes just stuck a bit bet il see her again. its just a nice shock to shake things around a bit after what 5 years of no one dying, its like Heroes or the A-team no one ever dies!

Rose's first exit was a rare example of RTD getting something right but as always he nuked it by bringing her back in series 4 for no other reason than a cheap ratings booster and to give her a horribly contrived family friendly ending with "her" Doctor albeit a sort of clone version.

The memory of 2 Tennants onscreen at the same time plus the Tate creature doing a bad impression of him is one that the brain bleach hasn't yet managed to erase

 

[pixletwin]

Rose's only return should have been the one in EoT part 2. I thought that was pretty cool. But yeah, Journey's End cheapened Rose's exit by a factor of 10.

 

[barbelith]

Rose's only return should have been the one in EoT part 2. I thought that was pretty cool. But yeah, Journey's End cheapened Rose's exit by a factor of 10.

It would have been awesome if the only "goodbye" in EoT was the Rose scene, and we hadn't seen her in series four at all.

 

[pixletwin]

I can do without the Martha/Mickey farewell and the Sarah Jane one as well... but I really liked the scene with Joan Redfern's great granddaughter.

 

[barbelith]

I can do without the Martha/Mickey farewell and the Sarah Jane one as well... but I really liked the scene with Joan Redfern's great granddaughter.

I hated it, because it didn't make any sense. Why go see someone he never met, instead of Joan Redfern herself? In fact why go at all, since John Smith wasn't the Doctor and the Doctor himself had no feelings for her?

 

[pixletwin]

Didn't the Doctor say that John Smith was still inside him? I think there was a part of the Doctor which loved her still (GASP!!!!).

 

[Reinhardt]

I hated it, because it didn't make any sense. Why go see someone he never met, instead of Joan Redfern herself? In fact why go at all, since John Smith wasn't the Doctor and the Doctor himself had no feelings for her?

I agree. There was no point in a time traveller going to see the great grand daughter of someone he knew instead of the actual person herself.

Also, I finally got to watch "victory of the daleks" last night. Loved the first 2/3rds of the show, but felt it really fell flat in the last 1/3. Loved the voice of the Dalek leader.

 

[pixletwin]

Except that the Doctor is a coward about such things. He prolly didn't want to see Joan again and so visited several generations removed from his mistake to find out how she ended up.

 

[bcm77]

Never mind all that last series stuff, the Angels are back this week!

 

[N2k-swb]

Any one have any guess why Amy cant remember anything about the daleks?