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I'm glad I didn't cancel my dinner tomorrow, as someone suggested I do.

Look, I had a great time here on this thread, the figure is absolutely stunning, I'm envious of those who have it...but there's too many problems here right now. I'm out. Someone let me know when the "head+clothing" goes up for order. Maybe I'll get that.
 
bc there is/was a vip ordering button which used to show up as well. I remember people being confused and asking about it during the 'Heels' or 'Narrator' ordering.

Well this explains some other things I was told recently.

All I'll say is it sures seems like there are member(s) here who knew this was going to be the process and shame on you for not telling people how it works/ed properly and making it sound like all 20 go up the same date.
 
I'm glad I didn't cancel my dinner tomorrow, as someone suggested I do.

Look, I had a great time here on this thread, the figure is absolutely stunning, I'm envious of those who have it...but there's too many problems here right now. I'm out. Someone let me know when the "head+clothing" goes up for order.

Haha to be fair the situation was a little different back then :)
 
If Rainman wanted to do something special for VIP customers, here is what would have been fair. Offer a special item (plus the special item which is included for buying the full set) to be included for VIP customers. Then offer the regular special item to those who purchase the full set. I understand wanting to do something extra for the people who have supported Rainman, but the main problem that arises is that if VIP customers want in on his offerings, then the rest of us are on the outside without a chance to become a VIP. I have tried ordering some of his items and have missed out and had to buy them on the secondary market. Does that mean I am always a secondary customer because I wasn't lucky or quick enough with an initial offering. As far as 10 more being produced, I think that is nice, at least there is a 1/10 chance instead of no chance.
 
If Rainman wanted to do something special for VIP customers, here is what would have been fair. Offer a special item (plus the special item which is included for buying the full set) to be included for VIP customers. Then offer the regular special item to those who purchase the full set. I understand wanting to do something extra for the people who have supported Rainman, but the main problem that arises is that if VIP customers want in on his offerings, then the rest of us are on the outside without a chance to become a VIP. I have tried ordering some of his items and have missed out and had to buy them on the secondary market. Does that mean I am always a secondary customer because I wasn't lucky or quick enough with an initial offering. As far as 10 more being produced, I think that is nice, at least there is a 1/10 chance instead of no chance.

Thats what I suggested as well
 
but the main problem that arises is that if VIP customers want in on his offerings, then the rest of us are on the outside without a chance to become a VIP. I have tried ordering some of his items and have missed out and had to buy them on the secondary market. Does that mean I am always a secondary customer because I wasn't lucky or quick enough with an initial offering. As far as 10 more being produced, I think that is nice, at least there is a 1/10 chance instead of no chance.

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I think Rainman should require his VIPs to take a pic of all their figures of his to prove they haven't since sold off their figures. If they don't have them all still, bye-bye VIP status. And they should have to do this with EVERY figure to keep their VIP status. If they want to be VIPs, they need to prove it with more than just their wallets did originally.
 
I think Rainman should require his VIPs to take a pic of all their figures of his to prove they haven't since sold off their figures. If they don't have them all still, bye-bye VIP status. And they should have to do this with EVERY figure to keep their VIP status. If they want to be VIPs, they need to prove it with more than just their wallets did originally.

With all due respect, I don´t think that is fair. If they bought the figures, they have the right to be VIPS. Only that Rainman should have two different offers: 20 figs for VIPS, 20 for non VIPS. And we all win.
 
Just because you bought his first few figures makes you a VIP from then on? I don't think so. His so-called VIPS should be people that fully support him and KEEP his figures. Not sell them later. You aren't a VIP if you just flip his figures later on.
 
I've hesitated to join this fray because I detest confrontation, but it's gone past the point where silence is acquiescence.

I disagree with all suggestions that Rainman has done anything improper here. There's nothing wrong with showing a courtesy to patrons who have supported his work for a long time, and he has no obligation to disclose how he chooses them, or how many there are, or the fact that they exist, or what countries they reside in, or anything else about how he runs his business. Rainman doesn't owe anyone an "equal chance," period.

To have opened the door to a larger edition after the original edition size has been announced is a risky step for an artist who produces limited editions, and his having done so shows, to me, an unusual concern for those additional collectors who love this particular character and this particular figure.

I hope any VIPs will show a generous spirit, and not abuse the special place Rainman has afforded them, but tell him to go ahead and expand the edition.

To those who've made cracks about how much money he's made, or dictated what he should have done or should do now: these are glib comments, armchair quarterback comments, and Rainman deserves better.

To Deckard: your suggestion that any VIPs on this board owe you an apology or a disclosure is....way out there, it's approaching Captain-Queeg-and-the-strawberries territory. Hydeous was right. Take a break, get a breath. Come back to the computer at race time and get yourself a "Dude" figure. I truly hope you get one. This has really bent you out of shape. It's been painful to watch you melt down. But having sold another valued piece doesn't entitle you to anything. It was always a crap shoot. Rainman is asking his longtime buyers to release him from a bond so he can fulfill your wish. I hope they do. I hope they do.
 
I think most people are having a problem with the fact Rainman's email said there would be TWENTY available ON 3/19/11 when there clearly isn't going to be. Thats just an outright lie saying 'x' will be available when only 'y' will be. Do you sell the Ipads to your VIP friends or the guys that waited in line for hours? Same thing applies here. Rainman is basically saying 'screw you' to any new and potential VIPs.

No body is upset over an edition size increase. Its the lack of the stated edition size not being available when stated is what everyone is pissed about.
 
Except he's not saying screw you

He's saying there has always been a VIP system, but normally those guys don't take up mire than 20-30% of the orders

In this case, he underestimated the VIP demand which has got him in a fix at the last minute

So INSTEAD of saying screw you and walking away which he very well could have done, he is offering to expand the offering to 30 as balance between not making the VIPs feel like the rarity of their piece is compromised, and new customers having a chance to own it

It really is that simple. He's between a rock and a hard place, he deserves credit for trying to remedy the situation
 
I think most people are having a problem with the fact Rainman's email said there would be TWENTY available ON 3/19/11 when there clearly isn't going to be. Thats just an outright lie saying 'x' will be available when only 'y' will be. Do you sell the Ipads to your VIP friends or the guys that waited in line for hours? Same thing applies here. Rainman is basically saying 'screw you' to any new and potential VIPs.

No body is upset over an edition size increase. Its the lack of the stated edition size not being available when stated is what everyone is pissed about.

Not only this but the people who are supposed to be helping Rainman also knew the way this would work and didn't bother mentioning it and instead these 20 and what is leftover were offered to friends etc before the people promised a fair chance at them.

He wants to only sell to VIPS fine, then don't advertise it to the public the way he did all along and don't put up fake sell dates when in reality you have this gay little high school clique that gets a shot at them days before the advertised date. I'm not implying anyone owes me an apology, simply that it was handled improperly and with knowing of such.

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What it comes down to is as simple as this, if what happened with those preorders wasn't a big deal or something we knew about, none of this discussion at all would be taking place. Rainman knows he screwed up not telling anyone about this system which is exactly why he's having to apologise at all. Otherwise he'd just be happily counting his money, and we'd be patiently waiting our shot at the clothing sets like we would have expected.
 
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Perhaps Rainman is just out of touch with what exactly he was making. I said from the very beginging of this thread (check if you like) that he would underestimate the Dude, which he clearly did. So its his own fault. He shouldn't announce edition sizes BEFORE taking his VIP orders. That is his fault. Yes, it is nice of him to increase the edition size a bit, but in the end, he should have gauged this figure's popularity better. You don't make the same numbers of background Star Wars characters as you do Darth Vader. Its that simple. Know what you are selling and its demand.
 
The VIP system is a crap idea. Customer loyalty is important, but never should a loyalty program ever put the supplier on his knees and at the mercy of the enlisted. Hope he scraps it after this fiasco.
 
Perhaps Rainman is just out of touch with what exactly he was making. I said from the very beginging of this thread (check if you like) that he would underestimate the Dude, which he clearly did. So its his own fault. He shouldn't announce edition sizes BEFORE taking his VIP orders. That is his fault. Yes, it is nice of him to increase the edition size a bit, but in the end, he should have gauged this figure's popularity better. You don't make the same numbers of background Star Wars characters as you do Darth Vader. Its that simple. Know what you are selling and its demand.

Well this I can agree with and yes I remember you saying that and others not believing the demand would be that high

I also think apart from the popular character choice, the quality of the final figure in this instance has also created excess demand. Hell Ive not even seen the movie more than once and would never in my wildest imagination have wanted a figure of the dude, but I find myself entertaining thoughts of a clothes set:gah:
 
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