EBay Is Just So Damned Horrible ...

[hardcoregunr]

So what if sellers can't leave feedback? That's a positive thing, because it prevents sellers from being able to control their feedback. I have dealt with a lot of sellers that would ONLY leave feedback for the buyer AFTER the buyer leaves feedback for the seller, ie positive feedback. A lot of sellers on ebay have artificially manufactured positive feedback. If the buyer doesn't buy, it seems to me that is no different than someone who walks into a store and puts an item in their cart, then changes their mind and doesn't buy it. If a buyer doesn't buy, no real loss, unless there were listing fees that the seller has to pay. If the bidder bids a lot and then wins and decides not to buy, then that bidder has done you a favor by driving the price higher than it otherwise would go, and you can offer it as a second chance to the second highest bidder. What is the point of blocking a bidder? You don't want their money when are willing to pay? Either they pay or they don't, and if they pay, you win, and if they don't , you really don't lose, either. It is the buyer that needs the protection.

I've dealt with sellers who misrepresented an item as mint when it was only in very fine condition, as it had a deep long wavy scratch on the LCD display. I got no refund. Ebay didn't help. You couldn't see the scratch in the seller's pics. Another time I bought something, and it didn't work. I got no refund. This was 7 years ago. It has caused me to be very jaded about ebay sellers in general.

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[EVILFACE]

As a seller, I don't leave feedback until I receive it. It lets me know the transaction is complete and they buyer is happy with the item. Just cause I receive the payment, it does not mark my end of the transaction.

And a seller not being able to leave feedback is a huge fail. Douches that don't pay need to be left negative feedback.

 

[Blackthornone]

As a seller, I don't leave feedback until I receive it. It lets me know the transaction is complete and they buyer is happy with the item. Just cause I receive the payment, it does not mark my end of the transaction.

And a seller not being able to leave feedback is a huge fail. Douches that don't pay need to be left negative feedback.

Once the seller has shipped the item and it is as listed, that is the end of the seller's involvement, unless the seller wants to manipulate his feedback to make him seem like a better seller than he actually is. The seller is not responsible for buyer's remorse or anything like that. The only thing the buyer has to do for the seller is pay. That is the buyer's only obligation, just like in any other business transaction. The buyer owes nothing but money, while the seller must give customer service, as well as the product,and take care of shipping in many cases.

 

[EVILFACE]

Not in ebays eyes, the transaction is not complete till the buyer has the item.

Feedback is for the whole transaction, not just part of it.

If a buyer doesn't want to leave me feedback, it's no big deal. Pople just look for negs if they look at feedback at all. And with over 4000 positives, I don't care.

 

[nash]

stop replying to blackthornone and wasting your time. this guy is living in his own fantasy world which is a retarded one. i mean come on...the guy thinks that superheroes wearing spandex are real...

 

[EVILFACE]

noted!!!!!

 

[LOTRFan]

stop replying to blackthornone and wasting your time. this guy is living in his own fantasy world which is a retarded one. i mean come on...the guy thinks that superheroes wearing spandex are real...

A superhero wouldn't back out of a contract as this guy would advocate. I mean really, a bidder/buyer should drive the price high, back out of a purchase, and he is doing the seller a favor!?

Lack of protein clearly has detrimental effects on the brain.

 

[RoboDad]

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At least, that worked for me.

 

[karamazov80]

stop replying to blackthornone and wasting your time. this guy is living in his own fantasy world which is a retarded one. i mean come on...the guy thinks that superheroes wearing spandex are real...

Yeah, it seems that some people have no freaking clue what is going on. People who can't step in the shoes of a seller for 5 seconds shouldn't post on this topic.

As a seller, I don't leave feedback until I receive it. It lets me know the transaction is complete and they buyer is happy with the item. Just cause I receive the payment, it does not mark my end of the transaction.

And a seller not being able to leave feedback is a huge fail. Douches that don't pay need to be left negative feedback.

I used to do that when we could leave negatives, because I wanted to make sure the buyer was happy before assuming that everything was going smoothly (because buyers tend to not read auction descriptions, look carefully at pictures, etc.). But now that you can only leave positive or no feedback, there is little incentive for me to wait. If I wait, buyers are still somehow going to have this silly idea that I'm trying to screw them over and "hold them hostage" with feedback as Black suggests. Many probably don't even realize that we can't leave negative feedback anymore.

So, I just leave positive feedback right after payment is received. That way, I pacify the idiots who don't understand how it works, while making the buyers generally feel good about the transaction I guess, which may help them to leave me positive feedback at the end of the day. Feedback for buyers means absolutely nothing, however, except to demonstrate that they have been members for a certain amount of time (if a buyer has no feedback, I usually don't sell to them). It's either positive and forthcoming, or it's nothing. So, it doesn't matter when I leave it, way I see it.

 

[Gruson]

I agree, Ebay has gone downhill over the last 12 months. Some very lame rules and procedures now.

It would be a good time for a new company to try and enter the auction world.

 

[Darth Waller]

Whatever happened to Google?

 

[Skiman]

For the second time in a week I have had a bidder retract a bid hours and now in this case days after placing it. EBay is becoming so unfriendly to the seller that it is just ridiculous, how do they allow a buyer to cancel bids with no recourse days after their "commitment" to buy an item? All the bidder has to do is say that they entered the wrong amount, in this case 6 days later and there is nothing a seller can do about it? ____ eBay, so much for a contract to purchase ....

:emperor :emperor


PS - One ********* cancelled his bid on my item only to bid on p!tu's at .99

I remember someone retracting a $1500 dollar bid on my Doom last year, that was nerve racking but regardless it went back up to that amount within days.

He basically wanted to see what my reserve was and then backed out.

 

[Skiman]

They were the buyer/bidder: feb_ulous626 and rome_325

:emperor

This guys is very familiar for doing this, I'll search on the next guy in my auctions and see if I can find the dude that did it to me as well.

There's another name that I come across a lot and I'm sure they are a board member or someone in the know.

 

[LOTRFan]

This guys is very familiar for doing this,

Repeat offenders eh, block 'em! :emperor

 

[daikkenaurora]

Ebay is certainly becoming unfriendly to sellers. You cant even leave negative feedback to buyers anymore. Whats up with that?

 

[Darth Waller]

Once, I actually had a guy on eBay send me a message wanting me to remove the block so he could bid on one of my auctions.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Once, I actually had a guy on eBay send me a message wanting me to remove the block so he could bid on one of my auctions.

hahaha thats hilarious.

 

[Skiman]

thanks for the info, updated my blocked bidder list as well.

Spoiler

1624shaunc, citachiquita, comic-madness, darkness4545, dr-graffix, joevsvent, liquidroc, nit2getit, otto-31860, paultag46kz, philippe292, plunge35, rgannett, rodierc10, ryan1383, surfbig5947209, zuly0608, feb_ulous626, rome_325

the "zuly" was just recent and some guy from Greece that bid on my items, then asked me to cancel his bid rather than him retracting his own bid . I let it stay, since it was an auction and I was hoping it would help it sell for more, but no other buyers and I had to file a non-paying bidders claim.

Added to my list.

 

[Skiman]

Is there anyway of looking back all the auctions from the previous year or does eBay not store that information, I think that is just retarded that all your transactions, bought and sold are not saved under your profile?

 

[Darth Waller]

Is there anyway of looking back all the auctions from the previous year or does eBay not store that information, I think that is just retarded that all your transactions, bought and sold are not saved under your profile?

You're probably better off looking at your Paypal history, but that won't have everything.