Ebay is the new online Wal Mart??

[karamazov80]

Fella, I've seen your auctions, and no worries, I won't bid

I just said that I have no major issue with it in the sense that it won't affect what I buy or bid on, but I'm going to give a guy 1 star out of 4 (or 5 or whatever it is) if his shipping cost is $100 for something that costs $15-20 to ship. You want to play the eBay game, you gotta play by their rules, way I figure it. If you don't like it, don't sell there.

 

[nash]

Fella, I've seen your auctions, and no worries, I won't bid

I just said that I have no major issue with it in the sense that it won't affect what I buy or bid on, but I'm going to give a guy 1 star out of 4 (or 5 or whatever it is) if his shipping cost is $100 for something that costs $15-20 to ship. You want to play the eBay game, you gotta play by their rules, way I figure it. If you don't like it, don't sell there.

If youve seen my auctions you should know i don't overcharge on shipping to offset ebay fees. 90% of my auctions are free shipping to make things as hassle free as possible.

But to get to the point, your last post just shows what a hypocrite you are. you say you dont have a major issue with it to stop you from bidding, yet if you bid you will leave the seller a low feedback rating and feedback post. So which is it? If you are going to be the Ebay rules advocate, what are you doing bidding on an auction that you deem to be breaking the rules? Oh i know the answer, youre a cheap ass and want to save YOURSELF a few dollars but if the seller wants to do the same you'll punish them for it? what a douche

 

[Shadow King]

Here is a great example of over charging on shipping:
https://cgi.ebay.com/Sideshow-Exclusive-The-Thing-Premium-Format-Statue_W0QQitemZ160416112352QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item25598b9ee0

The shipping should be on higher then $60.00 via UPS (fully insured) for this piece.

 

[Skiman]

Are you serious? I've never heard of something like this. Maybe he already contacted Paypal about not receiving it?

Yea that's the second time it's happened to me on eBay and nah I don't think so the funds are pending immediately once he sent the money after the auction is over...

I'm good on fast shipping but not that good

 

[Skiman]

standard practice, and happens randomly if you have less than 100 feedback in a certain time period. ive had it happen twice out of 30 or more transactions on my wife's account. no big deal.

FYI, the money is already in 'your' paypal account, paypal is just holding it until the item is received via tracking number, 21 days and no claims are filed, or positive feedback is left. it's not like the guy hasnt paid, the money is deducted from his end already.

I understand it all I just don't understand why paypal does it.... we didn't have anything like that in the past.

 

[nash]

I understand it all I just don't understand why paypal does it.... we didn't have anything like that in the past.

it's mainly to keep new sellers in check i assume. So that you dont just create a false ebay account to quickly scam a bunch of unsuspecting buyers, transfer all the money into your account and then withdraw it. it's happened before and I guess ebay/paypal want to prevent it as much as possible.

 

[Skiman]

it's mainly to keep new sellers in check i assume. So that you dont just create a false ebay account to quickly scam a bunch of unsuspecting buyers, transfer all the money into your account and then withdraw it. it's happened before and I guess ebay/paypal want to prevent it as much as possible.

I see... I guess we all get punished because of a few bad apples.

That sucks!!!! Oh well I guess I'll keep plugging along on there

I'll just deal with it.

 

[karamazov80]

If youve seen my auctions you should know i don't overcharge on shipping to offset ebay fees. 90% of my auctions are free shipping to make things as hassle free as possible.

But to get to the point, your last post just shows what a hypocrite you are. you say you dont have a major issue with it to stop you from bidding, yet if you bid you will leave the seller a low feedback rating and feedback post. So which is it? If you are going to be the Ebay rules advocate, what are you doing bidding on an auction that you deem to be breaking the rules? Oh i know the answer, youre a cheap ass and want to save YOURSELF a few dollars but if the seller wants to do the same you'll punish them for it? what a douche

I did see that you had free shipping, but if you don't want me to bid, I won't.

And how, exactly, am I saving money if it is $300 with free shipping or $100 plus $200 shipping? It's the same cost.

As for bidding on an auction with high shipping costs, eBay has no issue with buyers doing this, so I'll do it. I'll bid for the best deal, and leave honest feedback regarding communication, shipping cost, speed of shipping, etc. I'm sorry that you are so anti-rules. True douches try to skirt the system by breaking rules for their own narrow self-interest, IMO. Well, those who do that, and those who advocate that.

Like I said, if you hate the eBay rules so much, don't sell or buy there.

 

[The Ween]

You two are part of the problem...

You end up paying the same price either way, but complain how it's divied up...

You tell me, what's the better deal?

1) P2 Elder MIB for $300 shipped

2) P2 Elder MIB for $100 with $200 shipping cost

????

Some do it that way to save on eBay costs. Honestly, I won't buy anything where the shipping is out of this world. It makes me think the seller isn't totally an honest person to work with.

 

[Skiman]

Some do it that way to save on eBay costs. Honestly, I won't buy anything where the shipping is out of this world. It makes me think the seller isn't totally an honest person to work with.

Yea Ween I skip them as well and look for another auction.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

this is why I don't use ebay anymore

 

[karamazov80]

Some do it that way to save on eBay costs. Honestly, I won't buy anything where the shipping is out of this world. It makes me think the seller isn't totally an honest person to work with.

Yea Ween I skip them as well and look for another auction.

Be careful what you say, guys, or Nash is going to block you from bidding on his/her auctions!

 

[nash]

Be careful what you say, guys, or Nash is going to block you from bidding on his/her auctions!

nah, i only block hypocritical douches, ski and ween are good peeps.

 

[karamazov80]

Don't think you can block yourself, but good luck trying.

 

[nash]

Don't think you can block yourself, but good luck trying.

please talk to me when you have something other than grade school come backs. bye

 

[karamazov80]

How about you come back to talk when you can post a reasoned argument instead of childish name calling with a dash of illogical nonsense? You are apparently still advocating taking advantage of eBay by scamming buyers and eBay with gouged shipping prices, and are apparently criticizing me for being honest with my feedback. But you don't really defend your point, nor have you responded to my question of what the hell you were talking about suggesting someone can be cheap by bidding on auctions without realistic shipping costs. No, you resort to silly name-calling insults, as trolls like you only seem to know how to do when you have no leg to stand on. Well, go act a troll to someone else.

 

[LoneWolf]

It feels off-topic now, with the conversation at hand, but.. Blocked circa*1999! Thanks!

I'm also sharing my douche list, so feel free to add them to your Blocked Bidders lists:

6500guy, achivanessa12, antonneri, bilgerat*, boherice11, ca_in03, circa*1999, firefoxes1982, gabance1203, granado.espada, icelance05, jpiersma1989, kringkring02, marcelneri, marvel_ironman, mhecai, mixman32, ncrstarplayer, norwegian24-24, shoppa.braties, t.stark71, tonycheung1965

Almost all of them are non-paying bidders on my own auctions, but some are just recommended by fellow collectors to block (i.e. tonycheung1965, granado.espada) which I haven't dealt with yet.

Can't be too careful these days!

 

[EVILFACE]

I did see that you had free shipping, but if you don't want me to bid, I won't.

And how, exactly, am I saving money if it is $300 with free shipping or $100 plus $200 shipping? It's the same cost.

As for bidding on an auction with high shipping costs, eBay has no issue with buyers doing this, so I'll do it. I'll bid for the best deal, and leave honest feedback regarding communication, shipping cost, speed of shipping, etc. I'm sorry that you are so anti-rules. True douches try to skirt the system by breaking rules for their own narrow self-interest, IMO. Well, those who do that, and those who advocate that.

Like I said, if you hate the eBay rules so much, don't sell or buy there.

Doesn't matter if the buyer is saving or not. As for leaving feedback, if you don't agree with the sellers terms when shipping costs are clearly posted in the auction, you shouldn't bid. You bid, you are agreeing to those terms.

I don't have a problem with the reverse charge auctions. I don't do them, but have bid on them before and didnt leave any excessive shipping feeback. No harm in someone saving a few bucks.

 

[karamazov80]

Doesn't matter if the buyer is saving or not.

I still don't understand how the buyer is possibly saving when a seller employs one tactic vs. another, so I tend to agree that this doesn't matter and has nothing to do with the issue here. It isn't like the seller is trying to do the buyer a favor here, or are giving buyers better deals somehow. They are trying to save money for themselves. Though Nash seems to be arguing otherwise, sellers are the only ones potentially benefiting from this behavior, while buyers could be deceived, and eBay rules are being broken.

As for leaving feedback, if you don't agree with the sellers terms when shipping costs are clearly posted in the auction, you shouldn't bid. You bid, you are agreeing to those terms.

If someone had a ridiculously high shipping cost and I bid anyway, I'm gonna pay it. And I'm actually going to give this person general, positive feedback so long as the item arrives in the condition it is supposed to in a timely manner (I've probably only left negative feedback 3 times in 11+ years of eBay use, and that was when someone didn't send an item at all or refused to make right when clearly lying about the state of an item in an auction). So in that sense, I am agreeing to the terms. However, I don't have to agree that these terms are appropriate if someone is trying to avoid paying eBay fees, and I don't feel compelled to rubber stamp positive feedback on the shipping charge indicator.

For those who disagree with me, can you explain the purpose of this?



Why would eBay have this at all, if the general consensus was that buyers should never bid on an auction whose shipping costs were too high? Sellers, bidders, and eBay should know when someone attempts to deceive eBay and buyers. EBay's policy is what it is, and their feedback mechanism allows for people to give feedback specifically on this indicator after a transaction was completed. And I'm no fan of many of eBay's policies by any stretch, but just as some of you are saying "don't bid if you don't like the fact that the seller is trying to deceive," I think it is more defensible to say "don't sell on eBay if you disagree with their selling policies." My actions fall completely within the realm of acceptable behavior according to eBay's policies--I am giving them business, and providing feedback to ensure that sellers act as they are supposed to.

How any of this makes someone a "douche" is beyond me. But like I said before, trolls with no ability to discuss things logically in a civil tone resort to the lowest form of internet behavior. I wish this kind of thing was unusual.

 

[nash]

I still don't understand how the buyer is possibly saving when a seller employs one tactic vs. another, so I tend to agree that this doesn't matter and has nothing to do with the issue here. It isn't like the seller is trying to do the buyer a favor here, or are giving buyers better deals somehow. They are trying to save money for themselves. Though Nash seems to be arguing otherwise, sellers are the only ones potentially benefiting from this behavior, while buyers could be deceived, and eBay rules are being broken.



If someone had a ridiculously high shipping cost and I bid anyway, I'm gonna pay it. And I'm actually going to give this person general, positive feedback so long as the item arrives in the condition it is supposed to in a timely manner (I've probably only left negative feedback 3 times in 11+ years of eBay use, and that was when someone didn't send an item at all or refused to make right when clearly lying about the state of an item in an auction). So in that sense, I am agreeing to the terms. However, I don't have to agree that these terms are appropriate if someone is trying to avoid paying eBay fees, and I don't feel compelled to rubber stamp positive feedback on the shipping charge indicator.

For those who disagree with me, can you explain the purpose of this?



Why would eBay have this at all, if the general consensus was that buyers should never bid on an auction whose shipping costs were too high? Sellers, bidders, and eBay should know when someone attempts to deceive eBay and buyers. EBay's policy is what it is, and their feedback mechanism allows for people to give feedback specifically on this indicator after a transaction was completed. And I'm no fan of many of eBay's policies by any stretch, but just as some of you are saying "don't bid if you don't like the fact that the seller is trying to deceive," I think it is more defensible to say "don't sell on eBay if you disagree with their selling policies." My actions fall completely within the realm of acceptable behavior according to eBay's policies--I am giving them business, and providing feedback to ensure that sellers act as they are supposed to.

How any of this makes someone a "douche" is beyond me. But like I said before, trolls with no ability to discuss things logically in a civil tone resort to the lowest form of internet behavior. I wish this kind of thing was unusual.

are you f'n retarded? you fully admit that you would still bid on an auction that charges you excessive shipping if it suits you, yet you will still leave that seller less than positive feedback for it. If you are so bothered by it, why do you even f'n bother to bid on that particular auction? Be like skiman, ween, and myself and not bid on them at all. you are the most hypocritical douche on this forum. and it makes me happy to see that im not the only one to see that. even evilface whom i dont always see eye to eye with can see that you are not making any sense.

You call me a troll when you are the one to bid on an auction that you dont fully approve on so that you can save a few bucks yet you will punish that seller with a less than stellar feedback for it. you are the worst kind of scum that there is. you take advantage of people for your own gain yet you prosecute them for it. people like you should not be allowed to have kids.


FYI: add srobi1 to the ebay douche list. i just did.