Fantastic Four reboot

[devastator's balls]

It was the best of summers, it was the worst of summers....

 

[meanstreak]

Since Tony Stark is the unofficial MCU "Reed Richards" and GOTG is now their cosmic team Marvel doesn't really need the FF. But working out a deal to get access to Galactus would be nice.

And Silver Surfer

And Dr Doom. He needs to be the big bad guy in a good movie.

Torch, Thing, Invisible Woman and Mr Fantastic can all be side characters in a big team up movie.

 

[chewblacca]

Since Tony Stark is the unofficial MCU "Reed Richards" and GOTG is now their cosmic team Marvel doesn't really need the FF. But working out a deal to get access to Galactus would be nice.

I think the FF could serve the weird side of the Marvel Universe. Reed could be like that eccentric scientist uncle with the hot wife and two strange friends. They would fit in nicely.

 

[Khev]

And Dr Doom. He needs to be the big bad guy in a good movie.

Oh yes, definitely. Get him so they can do a proper Secret Wars movie.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Maybe they need to add....

 

[pturtle]

I don't want the F4 to be apart of the Singerverse, I don't want an X-Men TV show to expand the universe, I just want good standalone X-Men films like X1, X2, FC, and DOFP. I have a feeling Apocalypse will be the last of these kind of X-Men films, so after that movie i'm pretty much checking out of superhero movies altogether.

Fox can either make a sequel, re reboot or deal with Marvel. If the movie is really as bad as reviews say, then I won't care either way, I'm not fond of Marvel's movies, and it seems like Fox is only capable of making bad Fantastic Four films, so I really don't care what ends up happening to the F4 rights.

I do feel bad for the Trank and the rest of the cast though, I hope they can all bounce back from this debacle, especially Trank.

 

[Kamandi]

And Dr Doom. He needs to be the big bad guy in a good movie.

Torch, Thing, Invisible Woman and Mr Fantastic can all be side characters in a big team up movie.

Doom has been poorly used. When he next appears I'd like to see them focus on him as ruler of Latveria and his genius intellect. Doom is enough of a wildcard character where he can appear without always being the heavy.

 

[Gully Foyle]

They should make a deal with Disney like Sony. Let Disney use the F4 in their MCU and let them help make a proper F4 film.

Given the dumspter fire that Fan-4-Stick has become, it would be better if the rights reverted wholly back to Marvel.

But considering how that scenario played out with Daredevil--leaving Marvel with another triumph and Fox with more "D'Oh!"--I can't see the egos of the Fox brass allowing it.

Here's how to bring the FF into the MCU retroactively:
>Have the first movie set in the Cold War/Atomic Age of the 1960s.
>They're scientists (and a test pilot) working on Top Secret projects. Like Hank Pym not wanting to see his technology weaponized, Reed clashes with the Army brass over the use of his discoveries (like Fermi & Oppenheimer).
>Accident gives the team their powers, they have NO secret identities, the Pentagon clamps down on them and keeps them deep in a black program. The public has no knowledge of their existence. The military considers them "enhanced" like a certain super soldier . .
>This would allow them to interact with Hank & Janet Pym during their secret agent days and encounter a certain Monarch of Latveria, who is already an established world threat and diabolical genius.
>Final reel of the first film: The FF battle Doom. At his Time Cube Machine. Something original happens (I'm thinking a blue beam of light shoots up into the sky), and all five characters are <FOOM!> displaced in time to: The Sequel, which resumes sometime after the events of the Thanos war.


Just get Doom done properly for once.


As for the partial birth abortion currently in theaters:

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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

 

[Solidus]

I don't want the F4 to be apart of the Singerverse, I don't want an X-Men TV show to expand the universe, I just want good standalone X-Men films like X1, X2, FC, and DOFP. I have a feeling Apocalypse will be the last of these kind of X-Men films, so after that movie i'm pretty much checking out of superhero movies altogether.

Fox can either make a sequel, re reboot or deal with Marvel. If the movie is really as bad as reviews say, then I won't care either way, I'm not fond of Marvel's movies, and it seems like Fox is only capable of making bad Fantastic Four films, so I really don't care what ends up happening to the F4 rights.

I do feel bad for the Trank and the rest of the cast though, I hope they can all bounce back from this debacle, especially Trank.

Absolutely agreed on all points. I'm not a fan of MCU, either, and the X-Men movies are the cream of the crop (in my opinion) of Marvel-related films. Leave X-Men out of ANY crossover. The films can stand well on their own.

 

[third3ye]

I do feel bad for the Trank and the rest of the cast though, I hope they can all bounce back from this debacle, especially Trank.

I don't. Trank, MBJ, and Teller all came off as cocky jerks when doing the press for this movie going all the way back to SDCC.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Given the dumspter fire that Fan-4-Stick has become, it would be better if the rights reverted wholly back to Marvel.

But considering how that scenario played out with Daredevil--leaving Marvel with another triumph and Fox with more "D'Oh!"--I can't see the egos of the Fox brass allowing it.

Here's how to bring the FF into the MCU retroactively:
>Have the first movie set in the Cold War/Atomic Age of the 1960s.
>They're scientists (and a test pilot) working on Top Secret projects. Like Hank Pym not wanting to see his technology weaponized, Reed clashes with the Army brass over the use of his discoveries (like Fermi & Oppenheimer).
>Accident gives the team their powers, they have NO secret identities, the Pentagon clamps down on them and keeps them deep in a black program. The public has no knowledge of their existence. The military considers them "enhanced" like a certain super soldier . . .
>This would allow them to interact with Hank & Janet Pym during their secret agent days and encounter a certain Monarch of Latveria, who is already an established world threat and diabolical genius.
>Final reel of the first film: The FF battle Doom. At his Time Cube Machine. Something original happens (I'm thinking a blue beam of light shoots up into the sky), and all five characters are <FOOM!> displaced in time to: The Sequel, which resumes sometime after the events of the Thanos war.


Just get Doom done properly for once.
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I like it. Apparently, that scene from the trailer with the blue beam of light was cut from the film. It's on the video review I posted.

 

[The Mike]

and[/I] encounter a certain Monarch of Latveria, who is already an established world threat and diabolical genius.
>Final reel of the first film: The FF battle Doom. At his Time Cube Machine. Something original happens (I'm thinking a blue beam of light shoots up into the sky), and all five characters are <FOOM!> displaced in time to: The Sequel, which resumes sometime after the events of the Thanos war.

That's not a bad idea. Although if they hadn't wasted the parallel universe travel, that might be something that could have bridged a 1960s FF to and modern one. Steal a little from Interstellar and have them go off to a parallel universe and upon return realize that time has passed quicker here than there. Imagine a Reed who was a super genius in the 1960s loving the technological advances and trying to make it leap and bound further, Johnny fully embracing the new era, Ben having the "man out of time" issues and just wanting good ol' Yancy Street which would have changed to something much more trendy and out of his grasp and Sue trying to keep them all together.

You could have cameos from "older" Marvel U folks in flashbacks or even interacting. It would steal a little of Cap's thunder but it'd work, hell Captain America could have been a hero to Ben or Johnny and have that "meeting your heroes" moment too.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Susan Storm needs to be in Mike's sig...

She's such a Playmate...

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I'd like to see Hugh Laurie as Mr. Fantastic and he should be a complete jerk like House, but likable because he does the right thing. Although, I could see him as Dr Doom.

 

[pturtle]

Absolutely agreed on all points. I'm not a fan of MCU, either, and the X-Men movies are the cream of the crop (in my opinion) of Marvel-related films. Leave X-Men out of ANY crossover. The films can stand well on their own.

I don't. Trank, MBJ, and Teller all came off as cocky jerks when doing the press for this movie going all the way back to SDCC.

I can’t believe how big a deal the internet has made those comments.

Reading some interviews with Trank, I feel bad for the guy, especially reading about his middle school and high school experiences. I honestly think Fox messed with the movie so much that we barely got to see what Trank really wanted to do with this movie. I read that at least three huge action set pieces got taken out so that Fox could reduce the budget, and half of the stuff they showed in the trailers wasn’t even in the movie. I don’t know if the studio felt pressured to do this based on fanboy cries or they just didn’t like the direction Trank was going in, but the movie currently is in theaters is pretty much a mess put together by Fox to try and make back as much money as they can.

 

[Invictus Sol]

Man, this is music to my ears. Bombing even worse than I could've imagined. Hopefully they lose $100M and sell back the rights to Marvel for a pittance.

 

[YoNoSe]

The word of mouth indicates it's more along the lines of "pothead wannabe auteur makes incomprehensible movie and producers step in to salvage their investment" than "studio ruins genius's artistic vision."

 

[Kamandi]

Josh Trank got fired from a Star Wars film. I can think of no greater punishment.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Josh Trank got fired from a Star Wars film. I can think of no greater punishment.

Not getting fired from the prequels?