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I don't like the flavor of the meat to be too overpowered and a nice dry rub can be as subtle as you want it to be. I like a very little cracked pepper and different italian seasonings because I like a tuscan steak flavor. But I do it very lightly and dry so that the beef flavor stands out.
 
As I said, I am thinking of adding a smoker grill to my set-up.

It was mentioned about the vents which I remember two on top on either side and two below on either side.

Can someone explain to me the nuances of this and it's usage ?
 
LOL...Thanks for keeping the rest of us on our toes kabukiman!:D

Quite frankly, Badmoon. I have to admit to being surprised to hear of anyone who had not eaten charcoal grilled food for so much of their lives (admittedly a little narrow on my part). Personaly, I feel that charcoal grilled is hands-down better than gas. But I have no hatred toward gas grilling just the same.

The thing that, to me, makes charcoal grilling better is being able to add the smokey flavor not just from the coals, but from the dripping from the food that hit the coals as you are cooking it. If you can get your ventilation right to the point where the drippings do not flame up...you get a great smoke to flavor your grilled food with. Some people like to keep the flames down by squirting water on the coals. To me, that is detrimental to grilling the food. It cools the coals and suppresses the smoke from the drippings. Others like to put pans under the food to catch them. That is OK if you want to make gravy or something...but I prefer to let them smoulder on the coals and smoke up the food. It is very satisfying to me to see huge amounts of smoke rolling out of my grill.

That is effectively impossible to do with most gas grills as the cooking is done with open flame, so there is no chance of keeping the drippings from flaming up (I have heard that there are newer gas grills that are designed to stop this, but then you are still missing the charcoal smoke flavor).

My wife's grandfather would not even consider eating gas grilled food, and, interestingly, my wife prefers gas.

But anyway Badmoon, as you are learning the intricasies of getting the charcoal heat right...remember this...you can always add charcoal. So err on the side of caution (in this case...too cool on the coals). And be excessive on keeping your vent closed until you find what is right for you. That WILL cut down flare-ups considerably but that has to be used in conjunction with keeping the lid of your grill closed as very much as possible. If you are like me, you like to play with the food as it is grilling. I have to fight that urge as having the grill top open lets in all the oxygen that helps the flare-ups.

One more trick that I like to do...I grill the fat that I trim from the meat, with the meat. It adds to the drippings that smoke the meat.

You may know some or all of this already, so don't think I am trying to insult your intelligence. I just like rambling on about grilling.


Good advice! Don't get me wrong I have had grilled food off of a charcoal grill before. However, it has been a while. Almost everyone I know has used and does use gas.
 
As I said, I am thinking of adding a smoker grill to my set-up.

It was mentioned about the vents which I remember two on top on either side and two below on either side.

Can someone explain to me the nuances of this and it's usage ?

Basically, the more these vents are open, the more air (and therfore oxygen) gets to the coals. This will make them burn hotter and faster. You can adjust them to allow less air in and that will make your coals last longer and burn a little less hot (and this will have the added benefit of keeping the drippings from flaming up if you cut off enough air flow to the coals, but this would not be an issue with smoking unless you use both an offset smoker AND direct heat by coals under the food). So this has to be balanced with how much charcoal you use.
 
I use charcoal 80% of the time. But I use gas as well. I just enjoy charcoal more, but it does require a little more attention. Even using gas, you can get some good smoke flavor with wood chips. Sometimes I use dry rubs and sometimes marinades and sauces. Flexibility is the key.

Also, I used to have a Char-Griller (not the dual version) with a side smoker but I found it was just too difficult to maintain a good heat when smoking. It needed a lot of mods to help minimize the heat loss. I ended up giving it to a friend.

If you want to try charcoal, the best bang for the buck is the 22.5" Weber Kettle. You can get the Silver version for less than $100.
 
I use charcoal 80% of the time. But I use gas as well. I just enjoy charcoal more, but it does require a little more attention. Even using gas, you can get some good smoke flavor with wood chips. Sometimes I use dry rubs and sometimes marinades and sauces. Flexibility is the key.

Also, I used to have a Char-Griller (not the dual version) with a side smoker but I found it was just too difficult to maintain a good heat when smoking. It needed a lot of mods to help minimize the heat loss. I ended up giving it to a friend.

If you want to try charcoal, the best bang for the buck is the 22.5" Weber Kettle. You can get the Silver version for less than $100.

Did you ever try to smoke on it without using the SFB?
 
Did you ever try to smoke on it without using the SFB?

Yeah, I pretty much stopped using the box before I let it go. A friend of mine has a much higher end and expensive smoker and it works much better than the one I had. Heavier gage steel and better sealed.
 
Yeah, I pretty much stopped using the box before I let it go. A friend of mine has a much higher end and expensive smoker and it works much better than the one I had. Heavier gage steel and better sealed.


Interesting. Considering how well mine cooks, I am surprised to read that there are issues with the smoking. Hopefully, when I call on mine to smoke, it will be better up to the task than yours was. Of course, I have a different model, so I hope that makes a difference (I realize the odds).
 
Interesting. Considering how well mine cooks, I am surprised to read that there are issues with the smoking. Hopefully, when I call on mine to smoke, it will be better up to the task than yours was. Of course, I have a different model, so I hope that makes a difference (I realize the odds).

Yeah, yours is a newer generation so hopefully you should be good.
 
I use charcoal 80% of the time. But I use gas as well. I just enjoy charcoal more, but it does require a little more attention. Even using gas, you can get some good smoke flavor with wood chips. Sometimes I use dry rubs and sometimes marinades and sauces. Flexibility is the key.

Also, I used to have a Char-Griller (not the dual version) with a side smoker but I found it was just too difficult to maintain a good heat when smoking. It needed a lot of mods to help minimize the heat loss. I ended up giving it to a friend.

If you want to try charcoal, the best bang for the buck is the 22.5" Weber Kettle. You can get the Silver version for less than $100.

How do you use the wood chips in a gas grill ? :dunno
 
How do you use the wood chips in a gas grill ? :dunno

You soak them so they don't catch on fire. Then you put them in a metal box inside your grill. When you cook, you get some smoke from them, so it allows your meat to get some smoke flavor as if you used a charcoal grill.
 
My gas grill actually has a side compartment just for wood chips, when you cook on low they work quite well. :hi5:
 
My gas grill actually has a side compartment just for wood chips, when you cook on low they work quite well. :hi5:

That is perfect then as smoking should be done at lower temps anyway. I watched a tutorial on smoking with a gas grill on the internet. Actually, it seems to be a lot easier than using charcoal as you do not constantly have to add charcoal like you do if you are smoking a larger item like a turkey.
 
You soak them so they don't catch on fire. Then you put them in a metal box inside your grill. When you cook, you get some smoke from them, so it allows your meat to get some smoke flavor as if you used a charcoal grill.

Do you just put this in a corner of the grill ? Or on the burner covers ?

That is perfect then as smoking should be done at lower temps anyway. I watched a tutorial on smoking with a gas grill on the internet. Actually, it seems to be a lot easier than using charcoal as you do not constantly have to add charcoal like you do if you are smoking a larger item like a turkey.

Link us DC :hi5:
 
You can also put the chips in tinfoil and create a seal. Poke a few holes at the top and set your grill on high. Once it starts smoking cook away! I recommend applewood. I love the flavor!
 
How do you use the wood chips in a gas grill ? :dunno

I got a little stainless steel wood chip box I fill with chips and put over the burner on one side.

You can also put the chips in tinfoil and create a seal. Poke a few holes at the top and set your grill on high. Once it starts smoking cook away!

2 parts wet, 1 part dry is the general norm. Usually I just use soaked wood chips and don't bother with dry. I've have used only dry when grilling steaks that are done quickly.

...I recommend applewood. I love the flavor!

:goodpost: :hi5:
 
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