Furiosa (May 24, 2024)

[Wor-Gar]

I had the same experience from Batman v Superman to Justice League, and they were all the same actors.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I guess I can understand that. It's just such a drastic shift.

What’s funny is it didn’t save them any money. FR and Furiosa have an almost identical budget, and Furiosa turned out looking a lot worse.

People aren’t going to spend their money on a movie that looks like a video game.

The media is running so hard about “theaters dying” with this movie while simultaneously having short term memory problems with a 700 million dollar movie in Dune 2 and a long term memory problems with FR practically flopping as well. Mad Max is not a household franchise and it doesn’t have the spark that something like Dune, or for better example the Upcoming Joker movie (all 3 WB properties) have.

The awful green screen CGI trailers are not helping it either.

Mad Max fans are extremely lucky to get this movie.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I was supposed to have seen this already but it didn't work out. Saw Duna 2 last night instead on Max. Hope to go this week.

Case in point.

 

[Mandible]

and it doesn’t have the spark that something like Dune, or for better example the Upcoming Joker movie (all 3 WB properties) have.

I'm very curious to see if Joker 2 comes even remotely close to the box office of number 1.

 

[Sidewinder]

Maybe if the movie was actually about Max rather than Furiosa, it may have done better.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Anya Taylor Joy.

 

[jaztermareal]

Maybe if the movie was actually about Max rather than Furiosa, it may have done better.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Anya Taylor Joy.

I like Anya, she is usually excellent in whatever she is in, but yeah, replacing Max was a bad idea. Remove the central beloved character in favor of a different newly added one and people won't be as keen to see. Oceans 8, 2016 Ghostbusters, Disney SW sequel trilogy etc all made that same mistake. People want their fave characters in new adventures, not new characters in what are (90% of the time) basically remakes.

 

[Jroug]

Saw it, loved it, will go again this week. She was great, Hemsworth was great. Went to an IMAX matinee, at least around here, the extra ticket price keeps out the riff raff who talk or doomscroll all the way through movies. I agree it's the third best Max film (RW & FR are 1 & 2, but which one is first depends on day of the week). Thunderdone will (hopefully) always be last.

No one "replaced" Max - this was always going to be Furiosa's story (hence the title). There was a lot to like here if you're into wasteland lore; just seeing what the green place looked like was pretty cool, never mind the other easter eggs.

The most obviously undercooked CGI was in the first scene. After that it was either (IMHO) seamless or obviously something a human couldn't have done without dying (going under the wheels, mostly). I don't blame anyone for not wanting to repeat the FR shoot; if using CGI spares them some of that grief, it's a no-brainer.

Max will be back in his FR prequel, so "fans" can complain the movie ends with him arriving at the citadel.

It had a bad weekend, so did every movie. Hollywood has head in sand re: how people interact with films post-pandemic. In the summer they are generally spending less on movies and more on real-life experiences. This Memorial Day weekend had highest travel in history. Summer kick-off is no longer about movie openings. People are outside, not in theaters.

Except Richard Dreyfuss, and apparently he decided he never wanted to be in one again.

 

[loki2371]

Mad Max is done.

Zero chance of recovery from this disaster.

For me that's a good thing...

Many 80's movies/franchises need to stay in the 80's. That's what gives them their charm and likeability. Nostalgia should sometimes just be that and stay that. Especially when going from realistic practical stunts/effects to mostly CGI. The movie no longer has the same feel.

Some movies/franchises just aren't worth revisiting. I think this is one of them. Especially when it's Mad Max without actually starring Mad Max. There's no new audience for this, and us oldies want to see more Max, not Furiosa. Another movie made for "modern audiences" that don't actually exist. And the BO simply proves this time and time again...

 

[xipotec]

It might also be because this was a much more epic story that involved a lot more than just a vehicle chase through the desert. And so they probably needed to take some extra shortcuts to get all the shots done and the movie completed.

I also think , along with this, it's just too expansive and dangerous. We all heard about the misery and risks the crew took on Fury Road (which has ALOT of CGI also).

It's just done better and used as an enhancement rather than a direct narrative choice.

It's not that there are a lot more CGI shots in Furiosa, it's that Fury Road used it like a fine sculptor tool, and Furiosa uses it many times like most studios do, as a tool of the accountant.

 

[xipotec]

I like Anya, she is usually excellent in whatever she is in, but yeah, replacing Max was a bad idea. Remove the central beloved character in favor of a different newly added one and people won't be as keen to see. Oceans 8, 2016 Ghostbusters, Disney SW sequel trilogy etc all made that same mistake. People want their fave characters in new adventures, not new characters in what are (90% of the time) basically remakes.

You can create new favorite characters you know......

 

[jaztermareal]

You can, but if your brand is "beef steaks" then you serve roast chicken, people will inevitably ask what happened to the steak and many will move on. If you continue to serve steak however and offer roast chicken as an alternative dish on the menu people may be willing to try it.

Max was sidelined the entire last movie then doesn't appear in the next. I think folk wanted at least one last chapter of his story where he is the main character. Same as disney SW trilogy, folk wanted one last adventure with the old cast to hand off to the next gen, instead their fave characters were sidelined or made failures and they never did reunite. That is insulting to folk

You can create new favorite characters you know....

 

[Wor-Gar]

As Lucas just said at Cannes - people want original ideas.

Well... he got that right.

 

[jye4ever]

You can, but if your brand is "beef steaks" then you serve roast chicken, people will inevitably ask what happened to the steak and many will move on. If you continue to serve steak however and offer roast chicken as an alternative dish on the menu people may be willing to try it.

Max was sidelined the entire last movie then doesn't appear in the next. I think folk wanted at least one last chapter of his story where he is the main character. Same as disney SW trilogy, folk wanted one last adventure with the old cast to hand off to the next gen, instead their fave characters were sidelined or made failures and they never did reunite. That is insulting to folk

/\THIS/\

Supposedly the next movie was going to tie it all up and be called “wasteland” and Max was the main character again but now that’s not even gonna happen.

 

[Mr.E]

If we're lucky, maybe it'll convince them to ground it more, lessen the cgi, and bring it back to basics. It worked for the originals. It can still work now.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Give Miller just $65M and I bet he could make a great little actioner... it would force him to be creative.

 

[davejames]

You can, but if your brand is "beef steaks" then you serve roast chicken, people will inevitably ask what happened to the steak and many will move on. If you continue to serve steak however and offer roast chicken as an alternative dish on the menu people may be willing to try it.

Max was sidelined the entire last movie then doesn't appear in the next. I think folk wanted at least one last chapter of his story where he is the main character. Same as disney SW trilogy, folk wanted one last adventure with the old cast to hand off to the next gen, instead their fave characters were sidelined or made failures and they never did reunite. That is insulting to folk

Lol, I think people are seriously overestimating how much interest is out there in Mad Max as a character. The original films didn't even crack $40 mil worldwide back in the day. So it's kind of a miracle that Fury Road managed to make as much as it did. And I'd say a big part of that was due to the buzz surrounding Furiosa and what an unexpected surprise she was in the film.

 

[ZaCHw117]

If we're lucky, maybe it'll convince them to ground it more, lessen the cgi, and bring it back to basics. It worked for the originals. It can still work now.

Hollywood needs to reset to this. It’s absurdly over used these days and so many “blockbusters” look extremely cheap. I’m glad to see audiences are using their wallets to vote for change.

 

[Prime Clone]

No one "replaced" Max - this was always going to be Furiosa's story (hence the title). There was a lot to like here if you're into wasteland lore; just seeing what the green place looked like was pretty cool, never mind the other easter eggs.

I was fully on board, but I guess MM already had limited appeal, let alone an instalment without Max.

 

[jye4ever]

Mad Max is so niche that Wor-Gar is a hardcore fan and he didn’t even go lol

I guess we all just have to accept the fact that the Mad Max franchise at best…AT BEST, is a $380 million box office movie…AT BEST!

Crazy that they made another one for 200 million.

Beyond Thunderdome cost 10 million to make…

 

[jye4ever]

Reminder…

Fury Road didn’t even win the weekend box office when it opened, it came second behind Pitch Perfect no less

So sure a 200 million prequel 9 years later totally makes sense lol