*Gasp* I can't believe I am going to say this, but ...

[Darth Madden]

Keep searching, incredible as this one is; he isn't a PF.

For me he will be since I will probably never have the funds again to get a real one.

 

[Bonehead15]

I still don't see why Sideshow had to make the base out of polystone. I think it would've been more affordable if they used hollow plastic and it would've looked just as good.

That sounds like something Hasbro would do. Plastic would look bad.


I understand why people are canceling but if you're not certain wait till the very last minute to cancel.

To me, this Jabba set up is the ultimate 1:6 diorama ever. The Jabba scene from ROTJ is my favorite part of any of the SW movies. I'd be content with SS just releasing more figures from Jabba's palace. I'd buy practicly anyone from the Palace.

 

[Vader AL]

this will be the greatest Jabba setup made in the foreseeable future. I don't see a 1/4 scale coming out or anyone coming close to what SS is going to put out in 1/6 scale. for me the throne is an essential piece. if i didn't get it, i wouldn't get jabba. if someone doesn't want the throne, don't get it. if they don't want jabba, don't get him. just don't b#@!# about it.

 

[EVILFACE]

I still don't see why Sideshow had to make the base out of polystone. I think it would've been more affordable if they used hollow plastic and it would've looked just as good.

Cause then you would have people asking why they cheaped out and made it out of plastic instead of polystone.

 

[DouglasMcc]

Cause then you would have people asking why they cheaped out and made it out of plastic instead of polystone.

Actual, I doubt you would have that much of a problem. I would be willing to bet that if they had done the same set up, but made the base out of plastic and sold the set as a complete diorama for 200 dollars, the sales would have doubled, if not tripled. I have a feeling there were many people out there who felt similar and passed on Jabba since they didn't want to spend 200 on the base. I do not see it that way. In fact, if the hooka pipe came with Jabba ... as it should have, I wouldn't mind skipping the base at all. I know people hate on plastic, but in the right hands, it can be used to create very convincing displays. I am sure the Sideshow artist could have crafted a convincing plastic base.

Back to my original question, did Jabba have the hooka pipe on his sail barge? I am having a hard time remembering and I am not at home to view my DVDs.

 

[wookilar8]

Right now, I am just collecting the LotR Premium Format and Legendary Scale busts. Not sure if I wanna get into the 12" LotR line or not just yet...

If it comes down to just those 3 lines, their will be alot of quiet months. LOTR has become a "eh, why not" line for me because of how slooooow their releases are.

 

[King Darkness]

I just don't understand why people have to think SS should make everything affordable to them. Bottom line, if you REALLY want it, you will get it, no matter the cost. I for one have been saving since SDCC just for this.

The real prob is that people order at SDCC and think "Oh, I have 6 months before I have to pay", then six months go buy, they do nothing and then find themselves without the money for it when it is shipping.

IMHO, $200 for the throne is not a bad price. And Jabba for $120 ain't that bad either.

If thats to rich for your blood than dont order and move on.

I wish SS would sell there 1:1 Terminator for $500, so I could get it, but they dont and thats fine.

All this "collecting needs to be more fair"and "why does SS have to charge so much" crap is so old, and I get so tired of hearing it.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

With Jabba being hollow vinyl and the little creatures made of plastic, I'm not sure why the throne needed to be poly. If Jabba were also poly it would make more sense to me, but it just seems a bit overkill as it is. That's not a complaint really, just an opinion.

 

[EVILFACE]

I just don't understand why people have to think SS should make everything affordable to them. Bottom line, if you REALLY want it, you will get it, no matter the cost. I for one have been saving since SDCC just for this.

The real prob is that people order at SDCC and think "Oh, I have 6 months before I have to pay", then six months go buy, they do nothing and then find themselves without the money for it when it is shipping.

IMHO, $200 for the throne is not a bad price. And Jabba for $120 ain't that bad either.

If thats to rich for your blood than dont order and move on.

I wish SS would sell there 1:1 Terminator for $500, so I could get it, but they dont and thats fine.

All this "collecting needs to be more fair"and "why does SS have to charge so much" crap is so old, and I get so tired of hearing it.

I've think you've hit all points.

People spend over 300 on PF's, and Jabba is basically a PF, and a HUGE one at that. I still don't think some people are grasping how big this thing is going to be.

Collectibles are just too much for some peoples pocketbooks.

 

[King Darkness]

People spend over 300 on PF's, and Jabba is basically a PF, and a HUGE one at that. I still don't think some people are grasping how big this thing is going to be.

Collectibles are just too much for some peoples pocketbooks.

Yup.anyone expecting to pay less than $300 for this has NO understanding of what kind of R & D and production goes into something of this size.

 

[DouglasMcc]

I just don't understand why people have to think SS should make everything affordable to them. Bottom line, if you REALLY want it, you will get it, no matter the cost. I for one have been saving since SDCC just for this.

The real prob is that people order at SDCC and think "Oh, I have 6 months before I have to pay", then six months go buy, they do nothing and then find themselves without the money for it when it is shipping.

IMHO, $200 for the throne is not a bad price. And Jabba for $120 ain't that bad either.

If thats to rich for your blood than dont order and move on.

I wish SS would sell there 1:1 Terminator for $500, so I could get it, but they dont and thats fine.

All this "collecting needs to be more fair"and "why does SS have to charge so much" crap is so old, and I get so tired of hearing it.

Sorry, but at what point did I say it HAD to be affordable. There are plenty of items out there that are way too expensive... I would love to own them, but I will just have to do without. I can accept that.

I can afford 200 dollars for the base. However, as I said in my first sentence, I cannot rationalize the expense. 200 dollars, even for polystone is too expensive. A hollow vinyl base to go with the hollow vinyl Jabba would have been fine. It would have reduced cost for both Sideshow and the customer. It would also have looked great. They decided to go with Poly, so I am going to skip it.

What I am getting sick of, and I apologize to Dark since I don't want to sound like I am aiming this just at him, are people who have to throw around that crap about "Well, if its too expensive, then don't buy it. Collecting isn't fair." That's not our point. I could afford to buy the base. I, like many others, just don't see the price to value equation pointing towards the consumer. Does it look nice? Sure. Is it worth 200 dollars? Not in my opinion. Quit trying to turn every complaint into a bank balance "measuring contest". Some people have price limits they set for principle and value, not lack of cash.

 

[DouglasMcc]

Yup.anyone expecting to pay less than $300 for this has NO understanding of what kind of R & D and production goes into something of this size.

Sorry, with respect, I am going to have to call shinnanigans on that statement. RD and design on Jabba, I can live with the overpriced nature of him. He is very intricate and detailed. But the base is nothing but a textured rectangle. There are no moving parts, all the bottom "knockers" are identical, etc. Ever wonder why Sideshow made the base an exclusive? Because its the item they make the most money vs. production costs off. It could easily be sold for 100 bucks and they would still make a profit. However, that statements just going to set out the Evil Face "you're just poor" shouting contest, so I think I will leave it at that.

 

[King Darkness]

Sorry, but at what point did I say it HAD to be affordable. There are plenty of items out there that are way too expensive... I would love to own them, but I will just have to do without. I can accept that.

I can afford 200 dollars for the base. However, as I said in my first sentence, I cannot rationalize the expense. 200 dollars, even for polystone is too expensive. A hollow vinyl base to go with the hollow vinyl Jabba would have been fine. It would have reduced cost for both Sideshow and the customer. It would also have looked great. They decided to go with Poly, so I am going to skip it.

What I am getting sick of, and I apologize to Dark since I don't want to sound like I am aiming this just at him, are people who have to throw around that crap about "Well, if its too expensive, then don't buy it. Collecting isn't fair." That's not our point. I could afford to buy the base. I, like many others, just don't see the price to value equation pointing towards the consumer. Does it look nice? Sure. Is it worth 200 dollars? Not in my opinion. Quit trying to turn every complaint into a bank balance "measuring contest". Some people have price limits they set for principle and value, not lack of cash.

My post wasnt directed soley at you Douglas, but rather everyone that has been going on and on about the price of this since SDCC.

If people have price limits then fine, I have them too, but harping on the fact that "its not worth $200", is just old and beaten down. If its not worth the $200 then dont order it, and if you already did then you shouldn't have.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

To hell with the throne, look at how amazing that Jabba is. I hope the production process is kind to him.

 

[DouglasMcc]

My post wasnt directed soley at you Douglas, but rather everyone that has been going on and on about the price of this since SDCC.

If people have price limits then fine, I have them too, but harping on the fact that "its not worth $200", is just old and beaten down. If its not worth the $200 then dont order it, and if you already did then you shouldn't have.

So basically, you are saying, if we don't agree the setup is worth 300 dollars, we are too stupid to "understand" this piece. And if we don't agree with the price, we should just shut up.

Also, even though you don't have to open any thread about Jabba's throne, we are wrong for discussing the issue on a message board. Well, I could say the same thing about the Medieval Krugan rants ... since no matter how much you or I want it, its NOT GETTING MADE. But, no, I respect you right to post. How about showing the rest of us the same respect. Sigh, .......

 

[King Darkness]

The bottom line is that people keep complaining about paying $320. People complain about paying to much for gas, but they HAVE to have it. No body HAS to have a Jabba and throne. If $320 is to much for you then dont get it. Peroid. Dont go on about how SS can and should have made it cheaper.

And I think no one is stupid Douglas. I never said nor ment that.

And I am not calling anyone poor, or getting into a "bank balance" contest. I took me 6 months to save for the whole thing. Theres a good chance I would lose an bank off with most anyone on the board, I just save and save and save.

 

[LOTRFan]

I can afford 200 dollars for the base. However, as I said in my first sentence, I cannot rationalize the expense. 200 dollars, even for polystone is too expensive. A hollow vinyl base to go with the hollow vinyl Jabba would have been fine. It would have reduced cost for both Sideshow and the customer. It would also have looked great. They decided to go with Poly, so I am going to skip it.

Having seen this up-close and being a collector of some rather spendy goodies, I don't know exactly what response you are looking for?

So you cannot rationalize it, alright, do you continue to push the point until we all agree with you? There are obviously a large number of collectors who can justify the costs, and of course people are going to respond with if you can't afford it don't get it. Having collected mostly the SSW LOTR line, I know that the costs of polystone can get quite expensive, this isn't anything new to me.

It would appear your comments have run their course.

 

[DouglasMcc]

Having seen this up-close and being a collector of some rather spendy goodies, I don't know exactly what response you are looking for?

So you cannot rationalize it, alright, do you continue to push the point until we all agree with you? There are obviously a large number of collectors who can justify the costs, and of course people are going to respond with if you can't afford it don't get it. Having collected mostly the SSW LOTR line, I know that the costs of polystone can get quite expensive, this isn't anything new to me.

It would appear your comments have run their course.

No, I never meant to change anyone's opinion. I was just responding to what I took as someone telling me I needed to shut up. I will make 2 points, then I am done with posting (though I welcome others to comment):

1.) I apologize for my tone in the replies to Dark. I didn't realize that Pjam had posted the same thing til about 10 minutes ago when I read through newer posts. I don't agree with censorship in any form, but I agree 2 on the same day might have been too much. I would have continued his thread if I had realized it existed. As I re-read my previous message, I will apologize for insinuating that you called us stupid. We just see things 2 different ways, and that's okay.

2.) LOTR Fan, just remember one thing about all those amazing polystone statues you have. They are intricate creations with small details and amazing sculpting. The throne is a slab (sorry PJ, stole your terminology ) with little to no detail ... outside of standard concrete/stone texturing. Comparing it to something as amazing as the Cave Troll or Sauron is insulting to the LOTR stuff. Not trying to change your mind, just sharing my opinion.

 

[LOTRFan]

2.) LOTR Fan, just remember one thing about all those amazing polystone statues you have. They are intricate creations with small details and amazing sculpting. The throne is a slab (sorry PJ, stole your terminology ) with little to no detail ... outside of standard concrete/stone texturing. Comparing it to something as amazing as the Cave Troll or Sauron is insulting to the LOTR stuff. Not trying to change your mind, just sharing my opinion.

Fair enough, and I am not/was not trying to take a knock at you. Really though, it is the material itself you are paying for. I would compare this with the Mines of Moria SSW enviornment, essentially a hunk of polystone - and the same price point.

Of course the throne/slab isn't as detailed as other things, but then again, it really doesn't compare with most other pieces that SS has released (even my Mines example). Don't forget as well that you need to factor in the hookah structure, back rest, and yes even the bottom bronze adornments.

I think once this is in-hand, people will realize that there is much more than meets the eye. But that is only my two cents.

 

[King Darkness]

1.) I apologize for my tone in the replies to Dark. I didn't realize that Pjam had posted the same thing til about 10 minutes ago when I read through newer posts. I don't agree with censorship in any form, but I agree 2 on the same day might have been too much. I would have continued his thread if I had realized it existed. As I re-read my previous message, I will apologize for insinuating that you called us stupid. We just see things 2 different ways, and that's okay.

Its all good Douglas, we can agree to disagree.