Re: NBA 2012-2013
Well if stat is just one element like you say, what else is there that defines being clutch? Sportscenter highlights?
Will power to win, dedication, willingess to take shots under pressure, mental toughness, reputation, etc. There must be some valid reasons why NBA GMs picked Kobe to take the lost shot over anyone else in
10 years. They just don't use a fact stat from sportcenter. They don't say look Gasol has a better FG% and stat shows he has more rebounds than Kobe, that means Gasol is a better player than Kobe LMAO
Like you alluded to, anyone with any NBA acumen understands that rings alone do not determine greatness because of all the different variables involved. Winning rings is not in a vacuum in of itself. However the ability to judge who is clutch is when we can set black and white parameters such as shots to win or tie with less than 5 minutes left in regulation or overtime is.
Wow Mr. Facts using his opinion now
and he thinks his opinion is more valuable than the opinion of NBA GMs
So let me get this straight: guys who either currently play or have coached Kobe say Kobe is clutch? What a revelation! Do you really think that Dwight Howard is going to come out and say Kobe isn't clutch? Or that LeBron, Kobe's rival, is more clutch?
Or that an ex-coach is going to say Kobe's isn't clutch? C'mon now, let's consider the source
Are you saying all NBA GMs are currently play or have coached Kobe?
How about these quotes from NBA players this year:
"Five beats one every time I look at it," Jordan told the league network of how he ultimately broke down the James-Bryant debate. "And not that (James) won't get five. He may get more than that, but five is bigger than one." - Michael Jordan
"To me, he's (kobe) the no. 1 player over the 15 years I've been in this league." - Dirk Nowitzki
“When you look back at this era there’s going to be a lot of players that you can pick from,” said Wade “You can talk about their greatness. This is a good era for basketball, and it would be led by Kobe Bryant – who was the greatest player in our era.” - Dwayne Wade (
fact: wade is Lebron's teammate not Kobe)
"There's a reason why he's (Kobe) the best player in the game." - Al Horford
You must be disagree with them right?
Fair enough, I read that part too, however if the author doesn't consider to be the end all be all of clutchness, then what was the point of writing it or publishing the results? And if we both agree there is more to clutchness than what the author published, it still doesn't take away the fact that LeBron was measured to be more clutch than 7 out of 8 samples. So again I ask what else can be used, if stats don't paint the picture, as empirical evidence to determine one's clutchness? I'm asking you. What are you basing your opinion on when you say Kobe is more clutch than Lebron? Other than your homerism?
You tell me you are the one who put that article and said it was a great article
Even the author from the article that YOU said it's great thinks there are things that stat can't measure the clutchness
Remind me again how many of those rings did Kobe win without a dominant big man? I wonder how many rings Kobe would have won with a past-his-prime David Robinson or a pre-prime Tony Parker with practically no substantial free agent help? Conversely, I sometimes wonder how many rings Duncan could have won with a prime Shaq or prime Gasol with an endless amount of money and carte blanch free agency...
Oh now Mr. Facts using his imagination, what if...what if...I can also do the same I wonder how many rings Kobe would get if in his prime time he had Tony Parker as his point guard instead of Smush Parker, I wonder if Duncan could still get a ring in 1999 if the season was not short
Now you are using other than facts to prove your point how ironic
