high blood pressure

[Intruder04]

No, it was like the sound of a moth circling a lightbulb, like tiny wings fluttering deep inside my ear. You know the sound made when your ears pop from a shift in altitude/air pressure? Like that but heaps of them close together and I'd only get it when laying on one side. I guessed it was maybe a tiny amount of fluid in the canal or something, but nothing that'd be removed with a q-tip and nothing that my medico old man could see with an auriscope. The next step was an ENT specialist, but it wasn't hurting or anything... just distracting while watching late night telly.

And now it's gone. Must be thanks to my awesome diet

Good for you then. I guess it wasn't PET.

And you wouldn't wanna share your awesome diet with us, would you?

 

[Maglor]

weren't u used to be a cook/chief? if so, what happen? u switch career? or part-time work somewhere? just curious.

Nope never been a cook.


Been a LMT for 13 years now.

 

[Mr. Green]

Nope never been a cook.


Been a LMT for 13 years now.

Ah, somehow I thought this was u:

well i'm a cook

currently working in an Italian restaurant

my bad

 

[Blackthornone]

When did I say that? I'm a licensed massage therapist with a genuine desire to help people, but I don't work for free, and neither should they.

I do think Doctors and hospitals are overpaid, but that's not what this conversation is about.

My bigger concern is what they are taught. Case in point, they may genuinely believe that colesterol should be lower than 200, but is it possible that has something do with their education coming from Lipitor funded research?

Actually a cholesterol of 200 isn't what is best. It is 150. However, that isn't the whole story, either. The HDL to LDL ratio better be favorable. A 150 total cholesterol with an HDL of 100 is great. A Cholesterol of 150 with an HDL of say, 25 is really bad.
You could have a total cholesterol of 99 but if that is only 10 HDL you are in trouble.
HDL for those who don't know, is the good cholesterol, that helps keep the arteries clean, and once it gets high enough, can start to clean the arteries out.

A cholesterol is 200 just isn't low enough.
Only in societies where cholesterol is 150 or lower is heart disease practically nonexistent.

 

[Maglor]

Yeah, I don't buy that.


I'm guessing you're a vegan?

 

[Blackthornone]

Yeah, I don't buy that.


I'm guessing you're a vegan?

I went vegan for health reasons based upon the research I did on health which was largely to avoid cardiovascular disease. Once I learned of the cholesterol issue ans such, I converted. I did not become vegan and then try to find research to support my decision. I researched first and then became vegan after being convinced that it made the most sense to do so.


Which part do you disagree with? To the best of my knowledge, only a number of 150 or lower really guarantees against cardiovascular disease, and the HDL ratio must be higher than the LDL. There are some meat eaters who actually have those numbers. Those meat eaters are rare, but they do exist, whereas if you look at societies, you find that only those with 150 or below as a culture have virtually no heart disease.

By the way, there was a study done on a family with extremely high cholesterol, about 400+ cholesterol, in which people usually dies in their 40's, that started when this girl was in her early teens. In adulthood, she went on a program that raised her alkalinity, which actually brought her cholesterol level down to below 200, with no drugs. Drugs basically didn't work for this family. Their cholesterol was so high, it didn't make a large enough difference to make a significant impact.

Anthony Robbins talked about this in his CD on health in his Get The Edge series.

Acid alkaline balance also has a lot to do with overweight.

More fat in the body acts to buffer acid so it makes people more comfortable to be fat. Once people become more alkaline, they lose weight easily, and it isn't a painful process. It takes 4 parts of alkalinity to neutralize one part of acid, which is why it is so difficult to become less acid.

Here is a link to the first part of the Anthony Robbins program on youtube. Other parts can be accessed from there I think.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoLYP9F43N0&list=PL0644997F8F056954[/ame]

 

[devilof76]

When did I say that? I'm a licensed massage therapist with a genuine desire to help people, but I don't work for free, and neither should they.

You didn't. It was a rhetorical question.

The drug companies are driven by profit, right? So they need people to be sick to make money, right? So they oppose health on principle, they need doctors to prescribe their 'poison', so why do doctors who are supposed to 'do no harm' opt to kill their patients instead of healing them?

If the doctors' virtue is going to be compromised, doesn't there have to be some kind of incentive to sell their souls?

I do think Doctors and hospitals are overpaid, but that's not what this conversation is about.

It is in a way. Drug companies dominate the healthcare markets. They allegedly create barriers (aided by the FDA) to entry for anyone wishing to provide 'safe' medicine.

They have this power because of how much money they're worth, as it allows them to purchase political pull. They can suppress competition by forcing regulation of what their competitors want to sell.

My bigger concern is what they are taught. Case in point, they may genuinely believe that colesterol should be lower than 200, but is it possible that has something do with their education coming from Lipitor funded research?

Why is the source of the financing for research important? Does Lipitor not do what it claims to do? Is their research inferior? Are medical students mandated to study only what the universities get kickbacks to shill?

The notion that doctors' greed will override their desire to heal doesn't arise when there's no Satan tempting them with ways to get richer. Put Satan out of business, and what are doctors left with besides their duty to treat those in need of their help?

Again, rhetorical. I'm tacitly confessing Zionist secrets just by asking, and I don't want to give too much away.

And ferchrissake, teemu. If you don't think aliens are behind the new world order, you're way behind the ball. Time to do some homework bub.

 

[KitFisto]

I went vegan for health reasons based upon the research I did on health which was largely to avoid cardiovascular disease. Once I learned of the cholesterol issue ans such, I converted. I did not become vegan and then try to find research to support my decision. I researched first and then became vegan after being convinced that it made the most sense to do so.


Which part do you disagree with? To the best of my knowledge, only a number of 150 or lower really guarantees against cardiovascular disease, and the HDL ratio must be higher than the LDL. There are some meat eaters who actually have those numbers. Those meat eaters are rare, but they do exist, whereas if you look at societies, you find that only those with 150 or below as a culture have virtually no heart disease.

By the way, there was a study done on a family with extremely high cholesterol, about 400+ cholesterol, in which people usually dies in their 40's, that started when this girl was in her early teens. In adulthood, she went on a program that raised her alkalinity, which actually brought her cholesterol level down to below 200, with no drugs. Drugs basically didn't work for this family. Their cholesterol was so high, it didn't make a large enough difference to make a significant impact.

Anthony Robbins talked about this in his CD on health in his Get The Edge series.

Acid alkaline balance also has a lot to do with overweight.

More fat in the body acts to buffer acid so it makes people more comfortable to be fat. Once people become more alkaline, they lose weight easily, and it isn't a painful process. It takes 4 parts of alkalinity to neutralize one part of acid, which is why it is so difficult to become less acid.

Here is a link to the first part of the Anthony Robbins program on youtube. Other parts can be accessed from there I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoLYP9F43N0&list=PL0644997F8F056954

Congrats, you will live 3 years longer than me.

 

[Blackthornone]

Congrats, you will live 3 years longer than me.

I started on the path of health when I was 20. I was born in 1970, yet people guess my age at 26. I have achieved about a 40% reduction in aging. That's a lot better than 3 years. It's the youth that gets extended. No, I'm not Asian, either.

I wasn't talking about me, though. I was talking about high blood pressure and also the benefits of a healthy diet.

 

[KitFisto]

I started on the path of health when I was 20. I was born in 1970, yet people guess my age at 26. I have achieved about a 40% reduction in aging. That's a lot better than 3 years. It's the youth that gets extended. No, I'm not Asian, either.

I wasn't talking about me, though. I was talking about high blood pressure and also the benefits of a healthy diet.

Honestly, I was just kidding. I do believe in eating RIGHT leading to a healthy life. I don't follow what I believe so well, but I'm trying to work on it. I'll never go vegan because I love a good steak, but I could improve my diet a lot.

 

[Blackthornone]

Honestly, I was just kidding. I do believe in eating RIGHT leading to a healthy life. I don't follow what I believe so well, but I'm trying to work on it. I'll never go vegan because I love a good steak, but I could improve my diet a lot.

I've met people who eat a vegan diet most of the time, and eat fish once a month, and there are people I've heard of who eat a vegetarian diet but eat steak once a month. I must say these people look pretty good.

I would only eat organic free range steak if I did eat it, because commercially raised animals aren't healthy. They are sick.They are confined to pens so they get no exercise, and so they pump them full of drugs to stave off infections because their immune systems don't work well because of lethargy.
I think I would eat buffalo, because of it's superior nutritional profile, if I ate red meat.
Otherwise, I would eat Salmon as my first choice of non vegetarian things. No shell fish. More people die of bad shellfish than any other thing they eat, from what I understand.

There is much one can do to improve one's diet to make significant improvements in one's health without even going vegetarian,let alone vegan.

I suggest adhering to the Dr. Dean Ornish prevention diet as much as possible for everyone who doesn't want to go vegetarian or vegan.
I believe the Ornish program to be the most sensible and reasonable non vegetarian or vegan diet to be on, as outlined in his book, Dr. Dean Ornish's Program For Reversing Heart Disease.

Here is an outline of the study on the Dean Ornish reversal program:-

https://www.ornishspectrum.com/wp-c...iveness-efficacy-of-an-intensive-cardiac1.pdf

 

[Intruder04]

I started on the path of health when I was 20. I was born in 1970, yet people guess my age at 26. I have achieved about a 40% reduction in aging. That's a lot better than 3 years. It's the youth that gets extended. No, I'm not Asian, either.

And what do you mean by you not being an Asian? Do Asians live longer?

 

[Blackthornone]

And what do you mean by you not being an Asian? Do Asians live longer?

I mean that Asians tend to look younger longer because of their flatter, or smoother skin type. I do not know if Asians are predisposed to greater longevity, other than the Okinawans of Japan.

https://longevity.about.com/od/healthyagingandlongevity/a/okinawan_aging.htm

 

[teemu]

And what do you mean by you not being an Asian? Do Asians live longer?

not on the average American acidic diet,they don't

 

[Lejuan]

And what do you mean by you not being an Asian? Do Asians live longer?

no dummy, we just look younger

 

[Blackthornone]

not on the average American acidic diet,they don't

Indeed. As mentioned in the link I posted about the Okinawans:

"However, when Okinawans move to new environments (causing changes in lifestyle habits), they lose their longevity."

 

[devilof76]

U.S. has the highest number of centenarians in the world (U.N., 2011).

 

[Blackthornone]

U.S. has the highest number of centenarians in the world (U.N., 2011).

The numbers of centenarians as a percentage of the population counts. The highest average lifespan counts. If you have a high enough population, sheer total population numbers can cause higher centenarian numbers.
The issue is one of lifestyle and how it affects longevity. Not all people in the U.S. have the same lifestyle, due to it being made up of so many cultures.

Not all people have the same health habits. Since the U.S. has the best emergency health care in the world I think, and each individual has the ability to determine their own health habits, theoretically the U.S. COULD be the place where people could live the longest, provided that the environment is not too toxic or deadly to prevent it.

Is that greater centenarian number determined by total centenarians, or the number of centenarians as a percentage of the ultimate lifespan of all U.S. citizens compared to citizens of all other areas of the world?


According to this list by the World Health Organization, Japan is #1 in life expectancy, at 83 years.

The U.S. is 33rd, at 79 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy



1 Japan 83 79 12 86 1
1 Switzerland 83 80 4 85 2
1 San Marino 83 82 2 83 20
4 Italy 82 80 4 85 2
4 Singapore 82 80 4 85 2
4 Iceland 82 81 3 84 9
4 Andorra 82 79 12 85 2
4 Australia 82 80 4 84 9
4 Spain 82 79 12 85 2
4 Qatar 82 83 1 81 35
4 Israel 82 80 4 84 9
4 Monaco 82 79 12 85 2
4 France 82 78 24 85 2
4 Sweden 82 80 4 84 9
4 Canada 82 80 4 84 9
4 Luxembourg 82 79 12 84 9
17 Cyprus 81 79 12 84 9
17 Norway 81 79 12 83 20
17 New Zealand 81 79 12 83 20
17 Netherlands 81 79 12 83 20
17 Austria 81 78 24 84 9
17 Greece 81 78 24 84 9
17 Ireland 81 79 12 83 20
17 South Korea 81 77 31 84 9
17 Finland 81 78 24 84 9
17 Germany 81 78 24 83 20
27 United Kingdom 80 79 12 82 29
27 Belgium 80 78 24 83 20
27 Malta 80 79 12 82 29
27 Slovenia 80 77 31 83 20
27 Portugal 80 77 31 83 20
27 Kuwait 80 80 4 80 42
33 Denmark 79 77 31 82 29
33 Chile 79 76 36 82 29
33 Costa Rica 79 77 31 81 35
33 Bahrain 79 78 24 80 42
33 United States 79 76 36 81 35

 

[devilof76]

It's raw totals, and personally that's more important (lifespan only counts to the person living it, unless you're rating based on nationalistic standards). Without having the world's largest population, we have the highest number of people living past 100. No, that doesn't give us the highest longevity rate. What it gives us is the largest number of people whose lifestyles have kept them here for 10 decades. The fact speaks to the potential of life in this country.

 

[Blackthornone]

It's raw totals, and personally that's more important (lifespan only counts to the person living it, unless you're rating based on nationalistic standards). Without having the world's largest population, we have the highest number of people living past 100. No, that doesn't give us the highest longevity rate. What it gives us is the largest number of people whose lifestyles have kept them here for 10 decades. The fact speaks to the potential of life in this country.

You could have great longevity in almost any country. The issue is which health habits bring about the greatest longevity in the most people.

I agree that the U.S. have great potential for longevity, but it isn't being realized.

Longevity is about individual lifestyle, not nationalism.
There are too many lifestyles in the U.S. to say that the U.S. lifestyle contributes to longevity. What lifestyle habits do these centenarians practice? What lifestyle habits do MOST centenarians practice?