Hot Toys Announce Batman Returns License

[RIDDICK]

Me don't like!

Me blah-blah-blah

WHERE is MGS Hottoys???

for me

For me...

 

[Alex Logan]

For me...

Batman Returns > Batman Begins > The Dark Knight > Batman > Baman Forever > that's it.

Can't speak on that until I see TDKR, but I can tell you that Batman Forever won't even make the cut.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Didn't post anything like that Riddick, don't be a *********

 

[Maglor]

Does this help?

 

[IrishJedi]

What I hate about BATMAN RETURNS is the microscopically small scope. Because it was filmed entirely on sound stages using Burton's less than versatile aesthetic, it's just so damn small and claustrophic. Gotham City looks & feels about the size of my basement. At least the 89 movie used an outdoor back lot.

BR may be a great Tim Burton movie, but it's a terrible Batman film.

 

[batfan08]

Well, quite honestly because that's NOT who Batman was created to be. The Batman tv show was spawned by the 60's comics or vise versa, which ever way you want to look at it. During that era the character was changed drastically. It wasn't until the 70's with Dennis O'Neil that the character was returned to way he was intended to be.

When I was kid I liked the 60s tv show and even liked the Schumacher films... then one say I started reading the comics I was buying.

And further more I could ask you how any batfan could not love Nolan's Batman, but we already know that.

He kind of invalidated his own point on that front, that being said, I think Batman is just as valid as any other interpretation. There's no vise versa about it, the 60's comics were pretty wild, and in the late 60's (66' through 68') it was televised, if anything, it was a few years after the show when DC brought Batman back to his roots with darker stories. They're all pretty faithful (minus a few.)

 

[DiFabio]

What I hate about BATMAN RETURNS is the microscopically small scope. Because it was filmed entirely on sound stages using Burton's less than versatile aesthetic, it's just so damn small and claustrophic. Gotham City looks & feels about the size of my basement.

It is annoying that when Gotham is on screen it's usually always the Gotham Plaza location (plaza, Shreck store, tree, Church, shops), which isn't as large or nearly as creative as the Pine Wood studios lot/Matte paintings for the 1989 Gotham City.

I'm sure they had a chance to expand with a sequel, why they'd choose a studio smaller than the huge lot for the last film is beyond me.

Still, the effects and art direction is impressive. The model work (from the Oswald's Mansion to Wayne Manor) and art for the city (as well as Arctic World and the sewer lair) parred with Stan Winston's and his team's effects are fantastic.

If they just opened up and expanded the locations a bit more it would have been fine.

 

[Sachiel]

Returns' style is like German Expressionism.

 

[Lookin4Precious]

Returns' style is like German Expressionism.

German Expressionism is far more apparent in "Batman" than in "Batman Returns".

 

[RollingJ]

German Expressionism is far more apparent in "Batman" than in "Batman Returns".

Care to elaborate? I can see signs in both but Returns, not Batman, is often cited as Burton's homage to German Expressionism. The architecture owes something to Fritz Lang (though granted, there are tones of cubism and art deco etc), certainly less modern and more dream-like than 1989 Batman. As mentioned above, Returns feels more claustrophobic, less open. Max Shreck is a reference to Murnau's Nosferatu, and Burton's Penguin and gang are inspired by Dr. Caligari. What do you see in '89 that suggests it was more greatly influenced by expressionism than Returns?

 

[Batfreak]

^^^ Not a Batman fan. A strictly Burton-Batman fanboy.



There, I said it.

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good thing i dont take this site seriously. i find these statements to be not only immature but totally biased. i like burton yes but i also like adam west, the joel schumacher films, BTAS, the arkham assylum games and probably a few other things. but i do NOT like the nolan batman movies, and for this, i get crucified by self righteous fanboys. now this board is starting to sound like the SSH boards, which is not a good thing.

there, i said it.

 

[Boba Ben]

There's nothing wrong with not liking Nolan Batman. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Batfreak]

Well, quite honestly because that's NOT who Batman was created to be.:

well quite honestly that is just funny comment, if your being serious. boy people on this site take these things way too seriously. batman can be funny or serious, so this statement is invalid.

 

[Batfreak]

There's nothing wrong with not liking Nolan Batman. Different strokes for different folks.

i agree, but thats a totally stupid thing to say someone isnt a "true fan" (whatever that is) cuz someone prefer's one version over another. that is just pure unadulterated fan-nerd raveings.

 

[batfan08]

i agree, but thats a totally stupid thing to say someone isnt a "true fan" (whatever that is) cuz someone prefer's one version over another. that is just pure unadulterated fan-nerd raveings.

Honestly, I was questioning it more when you said that you "don't see what's so great about The Animated Series," considering the fact that it's the most faithful interpretation of Batman in media. So, you dislike the Nolan films, you don't see what's so great about TAS, and you're "not a comic book guy?" I don't know what I think about this...

 

[Maglor]

Batfreak on ignore!

Spoiler

And no it's not because you don't like Nolan's Batman (who cares). It's 'cos your an...

 

[RIDDICK]

At least he's an *** with 999 posts

 

[SAB]

At the risk of adding more nerd fire to the debate:

I like Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne by far the best.
He is the only portrayal to me that seems real. He seems isolated, insular, lonely and damaged ....the sort of psychologically scarred person that to many seems normal (if a bit odd) on the outside, but actually thinks its a good idea to dress up as a rubber bat at night.

 

[DiFabio]

At the risk of adding more nerd fire to the debate:

I like Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne by far the best.
He is the only portrayal to me that seems real. He seems isolated, insular, lonely and damaged ....the sort of psychologically scarred person that to many seems normal (if a bit odd) on the outside, but actually thinks its a good idea to dress up as a rubber bat at night.

Yep, I agree. He's definitely my favorite live action Batman with Bale being a close second. Keaton embodies Batman/Bruce Wayne really well and it just seems natural.

 

[batfan08]

I think they're about tied for me. They both represent different sides of the character. Keaton's Wayne-The psychologically damaged man-child; Bale's Wayne- The deep, responsible guy masquerading as an irresponsible billionaire Playboy; Keaton's Batman-the intimidating, downright scary vigilante; Bale's Batman-the experienced, just, committed crime fighter. I think it was you, DiFabio, who said that if you took the two and put them together, you'd have the perfect Batman.