Hot Toys basic MMS line???

[The Skull]

I had an Idea I wanted to throw out there, What if hot toys made a basic MMS line of figures. A line that is more than a truetype but not exactly a mms figure, something in between. Basically a line of figures to fill gaps in the regular line, for instance figures like agent coulson in a suit one to no accessesories in a basic form fitting clam shell or coffin like box, or a sgt elises from platoon with basic army bdu's an a m-16 in the same format.

Theres a multitude of figures they could release like this and would potentally bring in new collectors scared off by high prices and regular collectors would grab them to.

I'm thinking of a price point between 100-150 us dollars and just a few figures I could think of to put in that line would be the following.

1 new head sculpt for a salvation t-800 with a fuel cell accessoire
2 Alfred the butler from TDKR's with the letter from rachel dawes
3 Lucious fox TDKR'S
4 Ras Al ghul in a suit from tdkrs or ninja outfit from batman begin
5 Peter Parker with camera
6 Norman Osborn
7 Kyle reese with shotgun
8 Little john connor from t2 with backpack
9 Jokers goon with gun
10 Bruce Banner
11 Bruce Wayne

I know some of you will say there already doing this and charging high prices anyway so that is an option in the poll.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Nah..

I've got grails to focus on.

 

[DiFabio]

I do need a Bob the Goon for my Joker to shoot.

 

[Mr. EcKo]

Awesome idea for a thread man , i would love to see this happen

 

[Grosby]

You're asking if people would like it if HT released figures for $100 with the only catch being less accesories and less fancy boxes? Why would anyone say no to that? What's the negative?

All these figures would require HT to put in the same level of work as any other figure, the only real difference is the clamshell packaging. Why would they go through all that trouble for these 'in between' character at lower prices when they're already have trouble getting out all the major character releases? It make no sense. Just because Alfred isn't the star of Batman, it doesn't mean HT can just bang out an approved Michael Caine sculpt, put together an outfit, and somehow run it through production faster than everything else.

Now, accessory packs, that's a good idea. You should've started a thread about accessory packs, that's how you'd get respect. Additional outfits, this and that, just like Barbie.

 

[The Skull]

You're asking if people would like it if HT released figures for $100 with the only catch being less accesories and less fancy boxes? Why would anyone say no to that? What's the negative?

All these figures would require HT to put in the same level of work as any other figure, the only real difference is the clamshell packaging. Why would they go through all that trouble for these 'in between' character at lower prices when they're already have trouble getting out all the major character releases? It make no sense. Just because Alfred isn't the star of Batman, it doesn't mean HT can just bang out an approved Michael Caine sculpt, put together an outfit, and somehow run it through production faster than everything else.

Now, accessory packs, that's a good idea. You should've started a thread about accessory packs, that's how you'd get respect. Additional outfits, this and that, just like Barbie.

I'm not asking for respect, nor do I give a crap, just throwing out an idea I had. I may be mistaken but less or no accessoires and a basic box would require less effort to create and help keep cost down. A lot of people are alway complaining about prices and figure lines that are not complete and this could be a way to solve those issues. I do like the idea of accessoire packs myself but lets be honest, thats less likely to happen then a basic line of figures. They did create a basic truetype line

 

[Mr. EcKo]

I'm not asking for respect, nor do I give a crap, just throwing out an idea I had. I may be mistaken but less or no accessoires and a basic box would require less effort to create and help keep cost down. A lot of people are alway complaining about prices and figure lines that are not complete and this could be a way to solve those issues. I do like the idea of accessoire packs myself but lets be honest, thats less likely to happen then a basic line of figures. They did create a basic truetype line

 

[The Skull]

Wow, I create a thread to share an idea and all the @holes come outta the woodwork If all your looking to do is troll please do us all a favor an make like a tree and leave

If you don't like my idea that fine and you can state why like grosby, but to just show up running your mouth for no reason, it shows your looking for a problem

 

[Grosby]

I'm not asking for respect, nor do I give a crap, just throwing out an idea I had.

You wont get respect with that attitude. You should put more effort into getting the respect you desire. You really got to give it your all, then you will be top respected man.

I may be mistaken but less or no accessoires and a basic box would require less effort to create and help keep cost down. A lot of people are alway complaining about prices and figure lines that are not complete and this could be a way to solve those issues. I do like the idea of accessoire packs myself but lets be honest, thats less likely to happen then a basic line of figures. They did create a basic truetype line

I think you are mistaken. I don't believe less accessories have ever had an effect on how much HT needs to charge. Some of their most accessory-heavy figures have been their cheapest, while many a figure with few accessories have been their most expensive. A lot of figures today have very little and yet they're still expensive and yet you say if they take away those few accessories and put it in a clamshell they would then drastically drop the price? I don't think that makes sense.

Plus, take away the accessories (what is that, some hands and guns gone?) and don't print up a cardboard box, what real difference is that in the production process? You're not eliminating much at all. And I think you're also making the wrong assumption that HT wants to help customers out, give them treats and cut them breaks and whatnot. I don't think they have an ounce of interest in that.

And they didn't create a basic TrueType line, they released the base bodies that they had already created for their main figures. And most of the time those come out it's because they've just released a figure that requires a second body to use all the outfits (DX Joker V1, T-1000, MJ Thriller...).

 

[The Skull]

You wont get respect with that attitude. You should put more effort into getting the respect you desire. You really got to give it your all, then you will be top respected man.



I think you are mistaken. I don't believe less accessories have ever had an effect on how much HT needs to charge. Some of their most accessory-heavy figures have been their cheapest, while many a figure with few accessories have been their most expensive. A lot of figures today have very little and yet they're still expensive and yet you say if they take away those few accessories and put it in a clamshell they would then drastically drop the price? I don't think that makes sense.

Plus, take away the accessories (what is that, some hands and guns gone?) and don't print up a cardboard box, what real difference is that in the production process? You're not eliminating much at all. And I think you're also making the wrong assumption that HT wants to help customers out, give them treats and cut them breaks and whatnot. I don't think they have an ounce of interest in that.

And they didn't create a basic TrueType line, they released the base bodies that they had already created for their main figures. And most of the time those come out it's because they've just released a figure that requires a second body to use all the outfits (DX Joker V1, T-1000, MJ Thriller...).

Ok to your comment about respect, I'm not trying to come off as an @$$ but I just kinda got thrown for a loop with it, I'm really not sure what respect has to do with my idea. Maybe you think your idea is better and that some how earns you some kinda sideshow freaks respect credit I was'nt aware of

Now as for less accessories, basic packaging not saving them much maybe thats true, I know it would save them the materials needed, the design team to the molds, paint and labor for the parts. It would also save the packaging designers and artist labor and printing department labor, but in the end what that costs them I don't know maybe not enough. As for them not wanting to help out collectors thats likely true, but it could bring in new collectors that are not willing to spend 200-300 for a figure, give them a taste and maybe they will come back for more, there for good for business.

And lastly you state they did'nt create a basic truetype line, that is incorrect, they did and its the ttm20, ttm21, and ttm22 which are listed as a basic truetype, they are called basic for the very fact they do not come with a head.

 

[Grosby]

I thought you were talking about TrueTypes in general. But that goes back to my earlier point though: there's no heads, which you say "would save them the materials needed, the design team to the molds, paint and labor for the parts," and yet those TrueTypes are more expensive than the earlier bodies with heads, even taking into account natural price rising.

If they wanted to attract new customers with lower price figures I would say they could just lower the price of some of the products they're already making. But they don't do this and they probably don't feel a need to do this. There's a good chance that with their expensive items they're attracting more customers than ever, as many as they need to continue on, that they don't have a problem in need of a solution there.

 

[Lejuan]

A man can have all the 1/6 dolls in the world... but without respect he ain't nuthin'.

 

[The Skull]

I thought you were talking about TrueTypes in general. But that goes back to my earlier point though: there's no heads, which you say "would save them the materials needed, the design team to the molds, paint and labor for the parts," and yet those TrueTypes are more expensive than the earlier bodies with heads, even taking into account natural price rising.

If they wanted to attract new customers with lower price figures I would say they could just lower the price of some of the products they're already making. But they don't do this and they probably don't feel a need to do this. There's a good chance that with their expensive items they're attracting more customers than ever, as many as they need to continue on, that they don't have a problem in need of a solution there.

I noticed that aswell, kinda sucks they up'd the price for those truetypes while omiting the head sculpt I'm not trying to say they need to attract more customers cause they running there business into the ground, There doing just fine with business as usual for sure. I was just kinda thinking out loud when I created the thread, I was expecting people to come up with more figure ideas for the concept, the thread did not go in the direction I had hoped for.

 

[The Skull]

I just thought of another way to implement the idea, they could do what enterbay has done a couple of times. They could offer the TrueType with the head sculpt and the outfit as an accessoire pack separate. Enterbay did this with the Matt Damon TT and the Bourne outfit was sold seperatly .

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Let's keep the discussion civil, okay? If you can't comment without being juvenile then I suggest you stay out of the thread.

Thread cleaned.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I had an Idea I wanted to throw out there, What if hot toys made a basic MMS line of figures. A line that is more than a truetype but not exactly a mms figure, something in between. Basically a line of figures to fill gaps in the regular line, for instance figures like agent coulson in a suit one to no accessesories in a basic form fitting clam shell or coffin like box, or a sgt elises from platoon with basic army bdu's an a m-16 in the same format.

Theres a multitude of figures they could release like this and would potentally bring in new collectors scared off by high prices and regular collectors would grab them to.

I'm thinking of a price point between 100-150 us dollars and just a few figures I could think of to put in that line would be the following.

1 new head sculpt for a salvation t-800 with a fuel cell accessoire
2 Alfred the butler from TDKR's with the letter from rachel dawes
3 Lucious fox TDKR'S
4 Ras Al ghul in a suit from tdkrs or ninja outfit from batman begin
5 Peter Parker with camera
6 Norman Osborn
7 Kyle reese with shotgun
8 Little john connor from t2 with backpack
9 Jokers goon with gun
10 Bruce Banner
11 Bruce Wayne

I know some of you will say there already doing this and charging high prices anyway so that is an option in the poll.

Won't happen. They mostly wanna do characters they've already done, and won't go back to charging those prices.

You're asking if people would like it if HT released figures for $100 with the only catch being less accesories and less fancy boxes? Why would anyone say no to that? What's the negative?

They'd get in the way of Iron Manvengers. Can't have that

 

[The 1 Who Knocks]

this thread is certified hurp-a-derp.

 

[Mr. EcKo]

this thread is certified hurp-a-derp.

It is now that you posted dude

 

[tommyh84]

Not an idea I can see the point of or would support I'm afraid. Sorry

 

[Lejuan]

The problem with this thread is that it's asking people to speculate on something that is a) completely unlikely to ever happen and b) offers boring possibilities.

If I'm asked to speculate on unlikely things, I'm going to go all out. Like nobody ponders on what they'll do if they win a hundred grand. Everybody ponders on what they'll do if they win millions. Even though both are equally as unlikely. Which is why other 'wish list' threads tend to fair better.

Like Grosby said, accessories packs would've been something worthy of respect. This thread, no respect we deserve.