Hot Toys Batman V. Superman Dawn of Justice Speculation Thread

[Ppk487]

Poor BvS. It's just misunderstood.


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This is not the place to be trolling BVS as a film. We're all here to talk about Hot Toys from the film. Why are you flaming?

 

[Helghan]

Poor BvS. It's just misunderstood.


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Well. If people are going to talk about and analyse film and they can barely comprehend what is happening on the surface by saying things like "They become friends just because their mothers share the same name"....then yeah that demonstrates the personal deficiencies of the viewer, not the film. That isn't a proper analysis of plot, character development and themes.

So thanks for agreeing with me.

 

[melkorjunior]

It begins:

The director of The Flash just left the movie over "creative differences."

Rumors are that James Wan isn't feeling too confident about Aquaman right now either, and that Warner Brothers is doing a lot of arguing with Zack Snyder over the direction of Justice League.

 

[Sevreed]

Why don't we all just agree to disagree at this point? And stop acting like people are ignorant or dumb if they "don't get" your point of view about this movie, it's not helping. On either side.

 

[Batffeck5.0]

I found these pictures on Facebook. Check it out

 

[Ppk487]

Where on Facebook? Is that recent?

 

[Tourist]

It begins:

The director of The Flash just left the movie over "creative differences."

Rumors are that James Wan isn't feeling too confident about Aquaman right now either, and that Warner Brothers is doing a lot of arguing with Zack Snyder over the direction of Justice League.

What exactly do you think is beginning?
It cracks me up when someone makes vague ominous statements without being able to explain them.
As for a director leaving a project over creative differences it happens all the time, remember Ant-Man?

 

[Batffeck5.0]

photo shared by Guangyu Shi on Facebook

 

[Batffeck5.0]

More photos from Facebook

 

[Chuck72586]

Those are kind of odd hands for the armored Batman with the fingers stretched out almost like they'd be for a flying pose.

 

[Captain Clown]

Is it just me, or does the head on the armored Batman look bigger? It's probably how the picture was taken, as he looks a bit more normal in the first shot.

 

[SilverStar17]

You didnt like MOS. Fair enough.
but dont say...again, I quote..."My point is that Superman should be a beacon of hope, a good guy who wants to do what's right, who was raised by good people who instilled those values in him. The Superman Snyder gave us was inimical to this. I have no interest in Snyder's Superman at all".
When BvS clearly makes a a lot of effort to illustrate these traits that you're having issues with.
There are issues with BvS, sure, but the main ones you're having a problems with are not the issues that most people are having problems with.
It doesnt make your complaints credible when you didnt even see the movie.

Does that make a douche for pointing that out? Fine.
I'm just saying what most people are thinking reading your post.

Myself being one of those people.

I was actually having a pretty good discussion today about the film with the person who I first saw the film with. They liked it, but I read them that article from Forbes that was posted on here that I feel is probably the most accurate, in depth analysis of just what's going on in the film, and he was utterly blown away by just how right on point he felt it was and brought things to light that he didn't realize, and liked how the author provided relatable real world examples to illustrate each scene that he was writing about.

It's fine if people prefer and gravitate toward a certain portrayal of a character, but that doesn't by default mean that every other portrayal of the character is "wrong" if it's not exactly like the portrayal that you want to see that you're accustomed to. Personally, Cavill's Supes gives me a sense of all the hope in the world; dare I say perhaps even slightly more than Christopher Reeve's Supes? There just seems to be a lot more layers and emotion with this Superman. A Superman that is forced to confront his ideals in a cynical world, such as the one we currently live in, and ultimately doesn't give up on them, doesn't give up on the world that rejects him and tells him they don't need nor want him to be a part of their world in the first place, gives me all the hope I can ask for.

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

Wow, you guys really are overly sensitive when it comes to this film. Was a joke. By all means continue enjoying it and thinking of everyone who didn't as a simple minded fool who just didn't understand it. Most of you just sound pretentious.


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[Tourist]

Wow, you guys really are overly sensitive when it comes to this film. Was a joke. By all means continue enjoying it and thinking of everyone who didn't as a simple minded fool who just didn't understand it. Most of you just sound pretentious.

Don't say "it's just a joke" and then proceed to insult people, it makes you sound like a simple minded fool.
That, and the fact that you cannot understand a simple movie.

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

Don't say "it's just a joke" and then proceed to insult people, it makes you sound like a simple minded fool.
That, and the fact that you cannot understand a simple movie.

Where's the insult?

 

[dominishin]

people being pretentious about this movie seems ridiculous in itself lmao...

this flick is no oscar contender.

 

[unlikemenow]

Damn, give us the Knightmare bat already!

 

[Chuck72586]

Myself being one of those people.

I was actually having a pretty good discussion today about the film with the person who I first saw the film with. They liked it, but I read them that article from Forbes that was posted on here that I feel is probably the most accurate, in depth analysis of just what's going on in the film, and he was utterly blown away by just how right on point he felt it was and brought things to light that he didn't realize, and liked how the author provided relatable real world examples to illustrate each scene that he was writing about.

It's fine if people prefer and gravitate toward a certain portrayal of a character, but that doesn't by default mean that every other portrayal of the character is "wrong" if it's not exactly like the portrayal that you want to see that you're accustomed to. Personally, Cavill's Supes gives me a sense of all the hope in the world; dare I say perhaps even slightly more than Christopher Reeve's Supes? There just seems to be a lot more layers and emotion with this Superman. A Superman that is forced to confront his ideals in a cynical world, such as the one we currently live in, and ultimately doesn't give up on them, doesn't give up on the world that rejects him and tells him they don't need nor want him to be a part of their world in the first place, gives me all the hope I can ask for.

I see very little hope or inspiration from Cavill's Superman. The same could probably be said for Reeve's Superman when you think about it. Both guys seem like the driving force behind their decisions is Lois. Reeve's Superman gave up his powers to be with Lois, while Cavill's Superman's only connection to humanity seems to be Lois. His mother as well, I guess, but overall he seems very disconnected from the human race to me. He goes off and has his little exile and talk with ghost dad, and the main thing that comes out of that discussion is to have a woman by his side to take his mind off the naysayers and people who doubt his intentions. And, that's it? That's all that's keeping him from throwing in the towel and giving up? You'd like to think he has other sources of hope and inspiration, but Lois really seems to be the driving force for his return from exile, and his reason for even donning the suit and cape at all.

 

[SilverStar17]

I see very little hope or inspiration from Cavill's Superman. The same could probably be said for Reeve's Superman when you think about it. Both guys seem like the driving force behind their decisions is Lois. Reeve's Superman gave up his powers to be with Lois, while Cavill's Superman's only connection to humanity seems to be Lois. His mother as well, I guess, but overall he seems very disconnected from the human race to me. He goes off and has his little exile and talk with ghost dad, and the main thing that comes out of that discussion is to have a woman by his side to take his mind off the naysayers and people who doubt his intentions. And, that's it? That's all that's keeping him from throwing in the towel and giving up? You'd like to think he has other sources of hope and inspiration, but Lois really seems to be the driving force for his return from exile, and his reason for even donning the suit and cape at all.

Ah, well that makes sense and I can see your side. I personally feel differently though and saw something entirely different in the way in which my mind interpreted and perceived it. Sometimes, all it takes is one thing or one simple reminder to realize that you may indeed in fact be an inspiration on a larger scale. You can't make everyone like you, but on the same token, there are also those who do indeed look up to you and believe in you.

 

[Remy]

Myself being one of those people.

I was actually having a pretty good discussion today about the film with the person who I first saw the film with. They liked it, but I read them that article from Forbes that was posted on here that I feel is probably the most accurate, in depth analysis of just what's going on in the film, and he was utterly blown away by just how right on point he felt it was and brought things to light that he didn't realize, and liked how the author provided relatable real world examples to illustrate each scene that he was writing about.

It's fine if people prefer and gravitate toward a certain portrayal of a character, but that doesn't by default mean that every other portrayal of the character is "wrong" if it's not exactly like the portrayal that you want to see that you're accustomed to. Personally, Cavill's Supes gives me a sense of all the hope in the world; dare I say perhaps even slightly more than Christopher Reeve's Supes? There just seems to be a lot more layers and emotion with this Superman. A Superman that is forced to confront his ideals in a cynical world, such as the one we currently live in, and ultimately doesn't give up on them, doesn't give up on the world that rejects him and tells him they don't need nor want him to be a part of their world in the first place, gives me all the hope I can ask for.

Welcome to the douche club.

I see very little hope or inspiration from Cavill's Superman. The same could probably be said for Reeve's Superman when you think about it. Both guys seem like the driving force behind their decisions is Lois. Reeve's Superman gave up his powers to be with Lois, while Cavill's Superman's only connection to humanity seems to be Lois. His mother as well, I guess, but overall he seems very disconnected from the human race to me. He goes off and has his little exile and talk with ghost dad, and the main thing that comes out of that discussion is to have a woman by his side to take his mind off the naysayers and people who doubt his intentions. And, that's it? That's all that's keeping him from throwing in the towel and giving up? You'd like to think he has other sources of hope and inspiration, but Lois really seems to be the driving force for his return from exile, and his reason for even donning the suit and cape at all.

See, post like this is respectable cause you make intelligent valid points why you're disappointed with the movie.
There have been many people Who posted the same credible points, and I have a lot of respect for that.
ive never seen a movie much more heavily divided than this, so it's understandable how it's heavily debated.
And lots of people have made credible opinions why they like/dislike the movie.

I friend of mine was gonna take her kids to see this movie and I even cautioned her and recommended not taking the younger ones, but the teen one should be ok.
Although I love the movie, I know full well it isn't for everyone, specially for kids, unlike marvel movies where it's made for the general public.

My only issue is when it gets a negative review, because it's not like marvel, or people oversimplified some of the things in the movie, like the Martha comments, or coming in the BvS thread...not make intelligent valid points...then follow that up by saying you've never seen the movie.