Hot Toys Captain America

[Khev]

I saw the Reb Brown Cap TV movie when it first aired in '79 and the craptacular Matt Salinger version in 91'. I've suffered through some horrible Cap tales and am still ready for more. I'm already *thrilled* with how well the new movie looks, despite my vocal objections to Johnson and Evans being brought on board.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

According to what has been put out there there are modern bookends. Meaning that they find him, then someone tells the story (Fury? and old Bucky?) of Captain America at which point the film goes into the 40s. Then at the end it goes back to the modern times. Originally it was supposed to directly connect into The Avengers as the film came out a month before. Since things have changed with The Avengers but it should be noted that Joss Whedon is showing up as a screenwriter for Captain America which I don't remember being there before (IMDB) so maybe the direct connection still exists.

As for the Fury cameo, it was leaked but not as early as The Incredible Hulk one was.

I admit that my bird could be wrong but i think it's entirely possible that he is right.
Marvel have been very good keeping things quiet. Apart from the TIH thing (which was in trailers) SLJ's cameo and Mjolner were both well hidden a good month before release.

Besides, editor of the Marvel.com site tweeted the following -

"It's a pretty cool spot! I've watched it a few times today. It'll knock your socks off.

RDJ is Tony Stark! Whether or not he's in Cap, I can't tell ya."


Now why would he mention Tony Stark.. who knows.

 

[The Mike]

Hey, like I said it could be there, certainly set up that way with both Cap shields set up in the previous Iron Man films but we'll see. It'd be neat to see Stark there as it would Banner by the time they get Cap out of the ice.

 

[Ironman1188]

I too remember Reb Brown's 2 Cap TV movies. Very disappointed, even then, in the way they "updated" him and the uniform. I've never been impressed by Evans acting. I would put him on par with Salinger, and both of them ahead of Brown. I do not like this new uniform and so far, have only seen the Captain America I grew up once on film [they even screwed it up in the old movie serials] and that was how he was seen in 1991. Not talking plot here [an Italian Red Skull?] but the uniform [sans the fake ears]

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Hey, like I said it could be there, certainly set up that way with both Cap shields set up in the previous Iron Man films but we'll see. It'd be neat to see Stark there as it would Banner by the time they get Cap out of the ice.

I would love for them to work the new Banner into one of the two films. ( I know he and Pym are mentioned in Thor but I really want to see Mark Ruffalo in the role before the Avengers).

I always thought that after the climax of TIH it wasn't the army but S.H.I.E.L.D chasing down the Hulk in helicopters due to Gen. Ross being in charge of the army there.

I've never been impressed by Evans acting.

Have you seen Sunshine? He was very good in that. I've always had faith in him, more so after the tv spot. The brief glimpses of Steve pre serum, just the emotion portrayed by Evans in his face won me over, especially in the scene where he is crawling with all the guys overtaking him but he is still powering on. Great great stuff.
The best part is how Evans keeps that look in his eyes after the Serum. Good _____!

 

[The Mike]

Ross wasn't associated with SHIELD though. Tony meeting him after the credits as as part of an emissary on behalf of SHIELD and the Avengers Initiative to offer their assistance in the matter concerning Banner and the Hulk....If SHIELD were already chasing the Hulk why would they go to Ross for anything really?

Unless I misunderstood what you meant.

 

[jye4ever]

Starks line to Ross of "I always felt that hardware was much more reliable" (referring to failed serum use on soldier bronsky) still bugs me because Ross DID use Stark's Hardware (sonic cannons) yet it failed to stop the Hulk.

I guess one can attribute this to Stark's Ego

 

[Slap-Happy]

Are the sonic cannons actually Starks'? Are they marked with "Stark Industries"? I never heard it mentioned in the movie.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Ross wasn't associated with SHIELD though. Tony meeting him after the credits as as part of an emissary on behalf of SHIELD and the Avengers Initiative to offer their assistance in the matter concerning Banner and the Hulk....If SHIELD were already chasing the Hulk why would they go to Ross for anything really?

Unless I misunderstood what you meant.

Sorry I didn't make it clear.

At the end when Hulk saved the Ross family, General Ross seemed defeated, proven wrong. It was already shown earlier on the the army in New York was under his control.
Ross let Hulk go at the end, that much was clear however he was in no position to send his troops after Hulk and after him ordering to 'help the green one' it seems the rest of the troops under his command would do the same.

Therefore when the helicopters arrive, i think it was S.H.I.E.L.D. they obviously knew where Banner was due to there work with Gen. Ross but they held back (they aren't strong enough to deal with threats, they are spies! Hence creating the Avengers maybe?)

So yeah the helicopters arrive because they were hoping to capture the Hulk so they thought crap it's our only chance and went after him.

I think S.H.I.E.L.D may have a double agenda, one side being very public and nice, Tony Stark meeting Ross to offer help. The other side being a bit darker and manipulative, i.e manipulating the American Army into catching Hulk only for them to take him.

 

[jye4ever]

Are the sonic cannons actually Starks'? Are they marked with "Stark Industries"? I never heard it mentioned in the movie.

Not mentioned but shown.

Watch the opening credits, it shows "Requisition Request:US ARMY:STARK INDUSTRIES"

"APPROVED"

Then it cuts to Stark's Blueprint of the Sonic Cannon Humvee.

A very open Easter Egg if you will.

How did you miss that

 

[Sachiel]

It's also shown on a monitor later on.

 

[Centurion]

Not mentioned but shown.

Watch the opening credits, it shows "Requisition Request:US ARMY:STARK INDUSTRIES"

"APPROVED"

Then it cuts to Stark's Blueprint of the Sonic Cannon Humvee.

A very open Easter Egg if you will.

How did you miss that

Just watched the opening credits again.
Pretty cool!
I missed that bit of information the first 25 times I watched this.

 

[jye4ever]

Just watched the opening credits again.
Pretty cool!
I missed that bit of information the first 25 times I watched this.

You know what they say, 26th time the charm



So, back to my point......they tried Stark's hardware and it didn't work so why does Stark at the end act if it's the 1st time he's dealing with Ross.

Got me

 

[The Mike]

Starks line to Ross of "I always felt that hardware was much more reliable" (referring to failed serum use on soldier bronsky) still bugs me because Ross DID use Stark's Hardware (sonic cannons) yet it failed to stop the Hulk. I guess one can attribute this to Stark's Ego

What you are forgetting is timeline. The events of The Incredible Hulk even the scene in question takes place after Iron Man 2 when Stark has already stopped creating weaponry. They are old of course they didn't work.

Are the sonic cannons actually Starks'? Are they marked with "Stark Industries"? I never heard it mentioned in the movie.

The Incredible Hulk almost to the point of being annoying made it seem like everything and anything the military was using was StarkTech. Now that was before Iron Man 2. Thanks to Iron Man 2 that would be illogical, because at the end of Iron Man 1 he stopped making weapons and the contracts were issued to Justin Hammer. Hammer Industries had them until the events in Monaco which means anything used at the Culver University incident would either be really old tech or should be in reality HammerTech.

 

[jye4ever]

What you are forgetting is timeline. The events of The Incredible Hulk even the scene in question takes place after Iron Man 2 when Stark has already stopped creating weaponry. They are old of course they didn't work.



The Incredible Hulk almost to the point of being annoying made it seem like everything and anything the military was using was StarkTech. Now that was before Iron Man 2. Thanks to Iron Man 2 that would be illogical, because at the end of Iron Man 1 he stopped making weapons and the contracts were issued to Justin Hammer. Hammer Industries had them until the events in Monaco which means anything used at the Culver University incident would either be really old tech or should be in reality HammerTech.

Curses, foiled again by that dasterdly Mike and those meddling kids (really just Mike though ).

A. it's going to take me a few times to really wrap my head around that timeline but thanks for the clarification nonetheless
B. We're in a HT Cap America thread duscussing TIH movie

 

[Anzik]

So what is a HT Cap figure likely to come with? Round shield, triangular shield, masked head and unmasked head?

 

[The Josh]

I'd say all of those. Maybe that leather jacket we see Jim wear and the helm. My guess though is just that stuff you listed which should put him around the same price as Thor. He should also have a pistol and maybe a machine gun.

 

[winghead]

So what is a HT Cap figure likely to come with? Round shield, triangular shield, masked head and unmasked head?

Hope to see all of these! Can't wait to see pics!!

 

[Khev]

I think those items would require two different figures. From the stills it seems he uses the diamond shield with brown fatigues, a bulky helmet, and goggles. The round shield looks like it goes with his more streamlined blue/grey suit.

 

[The Mike]

So what is a HT Cap figure likely to come with? Round shield, triangular shield, masked head and unmasked head?

I have a feeling that you'll see two different figures for Cap. You'll see a USO figure with the spandex costuming that has the leather jacket and pants to go over it with triangular shield, probably a rounded as well with a standard Captain America that looks like what we've seen in the trailers and film itself as the "final" version.