Hot Toys DX04 - Enter the Dragon: Bruce Lee 1/6th scale Collectible Figure

[breakersrevenge]

Re: Hot Toys's DX04 - Enter the Dragon: Bruce Lee 1/6th scale Collectible Figure

But PERS won't come into play for this. We're comparing sculpts. It's appropriate because both molds are a first works for both companies. In this case, they're BOTH Mk1 joker, so comparison isn't unfair.

I'm not talking about PERS

How can you compare a sculpt from a few years ago with a sculpt thats not released yet.

If that is not what Cheungkinmen is on about then I'm wrong but if he is comparing the 2 sculpts then I think thats wrong!

 

[iampoch]

Re: Hot Toys's DX04 - Enter the Dragon: Bruce Lee 1/6th scale Collectible Figure

I'm not talking about PERS

How can you compare a sculpt from a few years ago with a sculpt thats not released yet.

If that is not what Cheungkinmen is on about then I'm wrong but if he is comparing the 2 sculpts then I think thats wrong!

Because it's a lot more unfair to compare Arnie Kim's more recent work to Yulli's first take, especially considering Arnie's a whole lot more experienced with BL's sculpt since GoD. This effectively makes the years apart irrelevant. Again, this is 1st work vs. 1st work. So Cheungkinmen isn't wrong in comparing them.

This also makes Yulli's work remarkable, given that 1) this is her first BL, and 2) This isn't the final product, so improvements can still be done. But the normal head is spot-on already.

Your statement can also backfire to those who say that the GoD HS is superior to HT's first foray into BL: Why compare something that already came out years ago, to something that isn't a final product? So that means that statements that say ETB's GoD HS is invalid as well.

 

[Rock83]

Re: Hot Toys's DX04 - Enter the Dragon: Bruce Lee 1/6th scale Collectible Figure

That Normal head is a pretty damn good first attempt.We don't know for how long HT have been working on this though,might have been for some years now.

 

[Rock83]

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Because it's a lot more unfair to compare Arnie Kim's more recent work to Yulli's first take, especially considering Arnie's a whole lot more experienced with BL's sculpt since GoD. This effectively makes the years apart irrelevant. Again, this is 1st work vs. 1st work. So Cheungkinmen isn't wrong in comparing them.

If it wasn't for EB,Yulli's Lee wouldn't be this good,EB is a motivation for HT to do better.
I don't think you can compare Arnie's and Yulli's first attempt on BL.Back then,EB was the only one making good BL figures without worrying about who can do better.

 

[iampoch]

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That Normal head is a pretty damn good first attempt.We don't know for how long HT have been working on this though,might have been for some years now.

Yup, they did say that the sculpts were years in the making, so I'm sure they've used a lot more references than any of us could ever come up with. Granted, the protos shown are still rough around the edges, but that's why they're called prototypes. Besides, first releases of any product always have rooms for improvement. Just look at how much ETB improves their BL with each release.

If it wasn't for EB,Yulli's Lee wouldn't be this good,EB is a motivation for HT to do better.
I don't think you can compare Arnie's and Yulli's first attempt on BL.Back then,EB was the only one making good BL figures without worrying about who can do better.

True, but I doubt that Arnie's works are the only reference Yulli used, nor would it be the main reference. I'm betting that both sculptors' main references would be the tons of pictures and videos of BL. It just means that Yulli had more references than when Kim started out with the 1:6th sculpts. But it still does not dispels the fact that what we're seeing is still a first effort. with that, comparing both efforts are still not unfair. No reference in the world can compensate for good talent, and it shows how both can go toe-to-toe with BL's likeness. Right now, Arnie gains the upper hand by having more experience with sculpting his likeness, but Yulli's first effort shows how much potential she has to catch up to Arnie's experience. It would be interesting to see HT's subsequent releases if they go with the line further. In any case, it's us consumers who win.

 

[MxBxM]

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This was Yullie's first attempt at Bruce and still, the normal headsculpt can stand up to any EB sculpt. EB's pre-Fist of Fury Bruce sculpts are nothing to Yullie's normal sculpt.

I don't believe anyone who doesn't think this:

isn't just as good as EB, or perhaps even better.

Well, you have to look at it from certain angles to see the likeness and the hair also helps, but the Enterbay one is Bruce on any angle and even if you remove the hair, you can still tell its him. So while the sculpt is better than the Medicom one, its is not there yet with the latest Enterbay. Might be better that the original GOD, but even the WOTD, which is the weakest sculpt of the later versions, has superior likeness to Bruce.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

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I don't want to get into a Hot Toys vs Enterbay slapfight, I don't really care who likes which better, but I don't see how anyone can say the non-scratched HT sculpt is not dead-on to Bruce. It looks just like him.

 

[MxBxM]

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Before the release of the first GOD Bruce, I believe Arnie Kim already had prototypes with real hair even that looked way better than the first GOD Bruce. If you compare then the first GOD to the WOTD, it is a huge improvement. My guess, is that the first GOD was a rushed product to jump start the Bruce Lee line.

 

[MxBxM]

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I don't want to get into a Hot Toys vs Enterbay slapfight, I don't really care who likes which better, but I don't see how anyone can say the non-scratched HT sculpt is not dead-on to Bruce. It looks just like him.

Yes, it looks like Bruce, but again, it helps that the hairsculpt is like a trademark of Bruce and helps with the resemblance, but from what I have seen, it is only from certain anglesthat you can say he is spot on. Also, the paint application is very realistic and looks better than Enterbay's paint. BUT, again, remove the hair and then the likeness will be diminished. The Enterbay sculpts though, are Bruce all the way, from any angle, with or without the hair and they don't even have a lot of paint apps on them.

 

[iampoch]

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Yes, it looks like Bruce, but again, it helps that the hairsculpt is like a trademark of Bruce and helps with the resemblance, but from what I have seen, it is only from certain anglesthat you can say he is spot on. Also, the paint application is very realistic and looks better than Enterbay's paint. BUT, again, remove the hair and then the likeness will be diminished. The Enterbay sculpts though, are Bruce all the way, from any angle, with or without the hair and they don't even have a lot of paint apps on them.

Yeah, but those certain angles = all the angles we've seen so far IMHO. Much of the deficiencies surround the BD HS. Also, as said, this is a prototype, so any rough edges should be fleshed out in the final sculpt. My contacts who attended AniCon also said that the promo pics don't do justice to what's on display, further solidifying how solid this first effort of HT is. This is as much a solid product ans Enterbay's, and IMHO is much more bang for the buck once it's out. Would be interesting if Enterbay surprises us with a new BL product to come out the same time as the DX one, though

 

[DinoLast]

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Yes, it looks like Bruce, but again, it helps that the hairsculpt is like a trademark of Bruce and helps with the resemblance, but from what I have seen, it is only from certain anglesthat you can say he is spot on. Also, the paint application is very realistic and looks better than Enterbay's paint. BUT, again, remove the hair and then the likeness will be diminished. The Enterbay sculpts though, are Bruce all the way, from any angle, with or without the hair and they don't even have a lot of paint apps on them.

It has nothing to do with hair and angles, it just looks like him it's as simple as that.

I don't even see this figure as competition for Enterbay.
I can't see Hot Toys making any more Bruce Lees, and for people who make this their first Bruce Lee 1/6 purchase, they might want the other variations that Enterbay offer. Fact is Enterbay sold all their figures and made their money. This DX is only going to hurt the flippers on eBay.

Hopefully Enterbay will bring out the 1/6 Big Boss Bruce Lee, and then everybody will be happy again.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

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Fact is Enterbay sold all their figures and made their money. This DX is only going to hurt the flippers on eBay.

Yeah, I don't get where people are coming from when they say HT is trying to step on Enterbay's toes. Enterbay's ETD Bruce (and pretty much every other variation of him) has been long since made and sold out. I don't see how DX Bruce has any effect on Enterbay whatsoever.

 

[MxBxM]

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I'm not saying the sculpt will not be improved and I really hope it does since I want to own the best representation of Bruce Lee out there. I am really hoping that she improves the likeness similar to the likeness of the T-800 to Arnold. And not in all the pics it looks like a spot on Bruce, we know it's him, so we see the resemblance, but it is not as defined as the Enterbay one. I missed the ETD from Enterbay as I found out to late about the existance of the company, so I settled for the FOF. Of course, I will not pay the ridiculously amout they ask for on Ebay, $1k? And with the promise of a battle damaged version from ETD and GOD by Enterbay, I was not expecting one from Hot Toys. I hope Hot Toys gets the sculpt right, a sculpt that when you see it, you just see Bruce, not Lou Diamond Phillips or other person. And that's where the ETB sculpt surpasses this, you just see Bruce and no one else.

 

[PRIME]

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Just want to say thanks to Hot toys and enterbay for making an awesome bruce lee figures nuff said and dont hate congratulate

 

[iampoch]

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Just want to say thanks to Hot toys and enterbay for making an awesome bruce lee figures nuff said and dont hate congratulate

 

[fanboyz]

Re: Hot Toys's DX04 - Enter the Dragon: Bruce Lee 1/6th scale Collectible Figure

Is there any chance of HT releasing a a separate BL body?
Pointless to have 2 sculpts and 2 outfits with one body.

 

[nobunaga]

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I say the yulli sculpt isn't the reproduction of Bruce Lee but a Chinese guy who recalls Lee. You say that it will be retouched and things will be ok. good. But. They say they are months working on this, they have a sculptor for every single part,painters ecc. I cant understan how HT can show a proto like this, so far from his standard! expecially if you have a competitor like EB! take more time! Yulli has shown us works like t800 and now that battle lee face? really can't understan! if you know people around the world is waiting for a lee enter the dragon you can't show me this saying we will fix! better you say we are doing this figure with these accessory and stop. Show me a jaw dropping partial image and i'll we be exited till the po. The gif with norton is perfect for my reaction to ht preview. Disappointed

 

[V!C]

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Is there any chance of HT releasing a a separate BL body?
Pointless to have 2 sculpts and 2 outfits with one body.

Yup, I need a 2nd body.
I will have to buy 2 DX because, I want one Bruce Lee figure like this:

And the other like this:

And those blue flared pants are only x1. Plus, since one is going to be shirtless, I'll use the HT packaged body on the scarred up BL. But then I'll have to buy most likely an extra body (slim?) for the one that will be suited like the above 2nd pic. Slim will be th ebest option correct?

 

[etnies03]

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Where can I pre-order this from, but not the normal version, the Limited Edition extra body HT has been talking about? I really want to pre-order it asap, so it won't sell out. Any thoughts or ideas?
Websites you found this on?

 

[soubido]

Re: Hot Toys's DX04 - Enter the Dragon: Bruce Lee 1/6th scale Collectible Figure

Where can I pre-order this from, but not the normal version, the Limited Edition extra body HT has been talking about? I really want to pre-order it asap, so it won't sell out. Any thoughts or ideas?
Websites you found this on?

u have to pre order it at the hong kong ani-com in order to get the extra body. nowhere else u can get the extra body besides ebay i guess?